RE: Jaguar XFR Vs. Aston Martin Rapide

RE: Jaguar XFR Vs. Aston Martin Rapide

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Kivster

6 posts

171 months

Thursday 27th May 2010
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Don't get me wrong< I love how comfy the XFR's seats are, just don't like how they look. Ruin what is a classy interior.

Anyway, I'd love a new XJ Supersport. Lovely motor, took out a 5.0 V8 Portfolio the other week. AMAZING!

Pushi

24 posts

177 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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I saw quite a few Aston Rapides lined up in one of the car parks at the 24 hour race at Nurburgring a couple of weeks ago.
Don't get me wrong I love the cachet of the Aston brand and I think the Vantage is one of the most stunning shapes of any current production car.
But morphing the current Aston design language to fit a four door body style simply lacks imagination.
Perhaps it's because as a kid I was always stunned by the dramatic looks of the AM Lagonda.

Oh the other hand the XF (despite the odd hint of Lexus here and there) looks better resolved, honest and fit for purpose.
I guess that's why if I were in the market for a watch I'd be more likely to end up buying a Timex and not a Rolex.

E21_Ross

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35,068 posts

212 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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Pushi said:
Oh the other hand the XF (despite the odd hint of Lexus here and there) looks better resolved, honest and fit for purpose.
I guess that's why if I were in the market for a watch I'd be more likely to end up buying a Timex and not a Rolex.
confused not lucky enough to own a rolex myself, but my old man does and that seems to keep track of time pretty well confused

Triple7

4,013 posts

237 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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DB9 'looks' starting to age now. XFR and an XK for me.....

Zod

35,295 posts

258 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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Triple7 said:
DB9 'looks' starting to age now. XFR and an XK for me.....
All subjective of course, but for me, the DB9 is as close to timeless as modern design gets, whereas the XK has the shape and the dynamics, but ruins it with crass detailing, the rear lights and random bits of chrome bling in particular.

E21_Ross

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35,068 posts

212 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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Zod said:
Triple7 said:
DB9 'looks' starting to age now. XFR and an XK for me.....
All subjective of course, but for me, the DB9 is as close to timeless as modern design gets, whereas the XK has the shape and the dynamics, but ruins it with crass detailing, the rear lights and random bits of chrome bling in particular.
agreewith zod on this one. lovely design, maybe the reason you think it's looking "old" is that aston have used what is effectively the exact same design on every car since.

New Scot

208 posts

231 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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E21_Ross said:
Pushi said:
Oh the other hand the XF (despite the odd hint of Lexus here and there) looks better resolved, honest and fit for purpose.
I guess that's why if I were in the market for a watch I'd be more likely to end up buying a Timex and not a Rolex.
confused not lucky enough to own a rolex myself, but my old man does and that seems to keep track of time pretty well confused
Watches - maybe it's the same head vs heart thing? My Oris (a present some 9 yrs ago) is lovely but is not able to keep time closer than 2-4 mins off even after an expensive service. Still looks good and so I keep wearing it, just make adjustments to be early or on time whenever possible!

Back to cars - I still remember being taken for a test drive in a DB4 when I was about 13 - the noise, the way the rev counter whizzed round faster than any I'd seen before! And yes, the electric windows too! The Aston made the Mk2 Jag we'ed arrived in seem very ordinary on the journey home.. And when a friend's uncle let me take the wheel of an early DBS some six years later the excitement was again memorable!

Now I'm unlikely to ever afford either, so I just enjoy hearing them ...

Mr Will

13,719 posts

206 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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kambites said:
MogulBoy said:
Jag's wheelbase looks a bit odd! 2909mm!
Not as odd as the Aston's at 1989mm!
I don't know... looks about 1.9 meters in this photo:


monthefish

20,443 posts

231 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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Mr Will said:
kambites said:
MogulBoy said:
Jag's wheelbase looks a bit odd! 2909mm!
Not as odd as the Aston's at 1989mm!
I don't know... looks about 1.9 meters in this photo:

hehe

I had to google a real Rapide to check that wasn't real - top 'shopping

monthefish

20,443 posts

231 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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ParanoidAndroid said:
Surprised the Quattroporte hasn't been mentioned. Much rather have that than the Rapide.
That's a very selfish viewpoint.

(A more selfless approach would be to buy the Rapide, therby giving everone outside of the car something nice to look at).

TTOBES

609 posts

167 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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I saw a Rapide on the A4 on Tuesday evening. It was a sky blue colour. Quite nice; but assumed it was a DBS from the rear. I wasn't aware they had barely been launched.

DSLiverpool

14,740 posts

202 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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Great article - great timing, Im picking up a new XFR on saturday and Im expecting an interesting motor !!

PascalBuyens

2,868 posts

282 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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kambites said:
MogulBoy said:
Jag's wheelbase looks a bit odd! 2909mm!
Not as odd as the Aston's at 1989mm!
Typo I reckon, it's wheelbase is longer than a DB9, and that has 2740mm... Guess it's 2989mm.

ParanoidAndroid

1,359 posts

283 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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monthefish said:
ParanoidAndroid said:
Surprised the Quattroporte hasn't been mentioned. Much rather have that than the Rapide.
That's a very selfish viewpoint.

(A more selfless approach would be to buy the Rapide, therby giving everone outside of the car something nice to look at).
Not sure I agree. I think the Aston whilst obviously very nice to look seems to be a bit of a lame attempt by Aston. Yet another rehash on of essentially the same shape. Surely soon they will have to move their game on somewhat.

I'm not saying they are bad designs, far from it. Just a bit too used to that shape now. They need something fresh.

Quattroporte on the otherhand is lick

Zod

35,295 posts

258 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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Why do they need to "move their game on", when they have simply got the design right?


ewenm

28,506 posts

245 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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[cough] Porsche [/cough]

Kazlet

278 posts

171 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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ewenm][cough] Porsche [/cough said:
nono Jog on.

Zod

35,295 posts

258 months

Saturday 29th May 2010
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ewenm][cough] Porsche [/cough said:
Not sure whether you are suggesting that Aston have it right and Porsche not or vice versa.

Suffice to say that I can't see the Rapide ever losing a beauty xontest to the Panamera.

ParanoidAndroid

1,359 posts

283 months

Saturday 29th May 2010
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Zod said:
Why do they need to "move their game on", when they have simply got the design right?
Don't get me wrong, I love Astons. The DB9 looks gorgeous, the brand is on a high at the moment, would be great to capitalise on that with something new and a bit different to the DB9, Vantage, DBS, Rapide.... and I don't mean the Cygnet!

Edited by ParanoidAndroid on Saturday 29th May 01:33

PascalBuyens

2,868 posts

282 months

Saturday 29th May 2010
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ParanoidAndroid said:
Don't get me wrong, I love Astons. The DB9 looks gorgeous, the brand is on a high at the moment, would be great to capitalise on that with something new and a bit different to the DB9, Vantage, DBS, Rapide.... and I don't mean the Cygnet!

Edited by ParanoidAndroid on Saturday 29th May 01:33
Well... that's exactly what they're doing right? They keep the "familiar" design in all of their cars, but yet everyone seems to be having a problem with that.

Porsche has been doing this for years, but no one seems to have so many problems when yet another 9xx arrives, with the ahem.. millionS of changes they have made over the past years...