Accepting cash in payment for a car - how much is ok?

Accepting cash in payment for a car - how much is ok?

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MHB

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431 posts

238 months

Saturday 16th October 2010
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My car is for sale at the moment, and one potential buyer called asking if I would accept cash if everything was ok. The thing is, the sale price will be around £25k, and I am a bit nervous about the prospect of accepting this much cash.

Has anyone else undertaken a sale involving this amount of cash, and is there anything I should be concerned about? The deal would take place over a weekend, so no prospect of a bank checking the notes. He would want to take the car away there and then, as he would be travelling a few hours to get to me.

Any advice or thoughts would be welcome.

Rocksteadyeddie

7,971 posts

227 months

Saturday 16th October 2010
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Hmmmm. I'd be very suspicious.

The last thing you want is to turn up at the bank on Monday morning and find they're fake / dodgy / nicked notes.

Oh, and you can only cash £8000 (IIRC) without a declaration.

However.... I sold a car for north of £20k to a guy from Germany. Before he made the trip i insisted he mail a scan of the banker's draft, and a copy of his passport along with all his address details. The draft was drawn on a small local bank and I called them in Germany (got the number off the internet). They knew the buyer personally and all his address details checked out on Google. Still a risk but there comes a point where you have to trust your gut feel.

Edited by Rocksteadyeddie on Saturday 16th October 21:21

Phil Dicky

7,162 posts

263 months

Saturday 16th October 2010
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i would say £25k is way too much to handle, plus that kind of balance will raise suspisions with the banks when paid, due to money laundering regs, if my memory serves me right

Richardsix

151 posts

164 months

Saturday 16th October 2010
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If you pay that amount in it may generate in banking terms what is known as a SAR, suspicious activitity report and be looked at for money laundering.

Rocksteadyeddie

7,971 posts

227 months

Saturday 16th October 2010
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Richardsix said:
If you pay that amount in it may generate in banking terms what is known as a SAR, suspicious activitity report and be looked at for money laundering.
Why?

Just fill the AML form saying you sold a car. Its 25 grand, not 25 million.

Richardsix

151 posts

164 months

Saturday 16th October 2010
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Rocksteadyeddie said:
Richardsix said:
If you pay that amount in it may generate in banking terms what is known as a SAR, suspicious activitity report and be looked at for money laundering.
Why?

Just fill the AML form saying you sold a car. Its 25 grand, not 25 million.
Just my naive opinion on how the system works.

Chris71

21,536 posts

242 months

Saturday 16th October 2010
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Why not just do a direct transfer and check the amount has been paid in before releasing the car?

(Genuine question rather than rhetorical I hasten to add, I'm facing this dilema myself at the moment...)

DannyVTS

7,543 posts

168 months

Saturday 16th October 2010
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So many movie quotes hehe

On a serious note is the prospected buyer Irish?

mike9009

6,996 posts

243 months

Saturday 16th October 2010
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Had a similar dilemma a few years back when I sold my car for £12k cash! I asked the buyer to come with me to the bank, to place that cash in my bank before I would hand over the keys. Buyer (a trader!) agreed and the deal was done.

I was worried about fake notes, counting the money etc. But this seemed to work for me. Did not get any of the problems mentioned above, but regulations may have changed....

Best of luck,

Mike

Rocksteadyeddie

7,971 posts

227 months

Saturday 16th October 2010
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Chris71 said:
Why not just do a direct transfer and check the amount has been paid in before releasing the car?

(Genuine question rather than rhetorical I hasten to add, I'm facing this dilema myself at the moment...)
Presumably the buyer would not want to make the transfer until he has satisfied himself that the car is ok?

I don't think payments credit same day over the weekend.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

249 months

Saturday 16th October 2010
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If you're not happy about accepting cash then tell him

I'm not sure about having to declare cash from the sale of a car, I was never asked where it came from when I banked quite a few £k more

andy43

9,701 posts

254 months

Saturday 16th October 2010
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When you pay 25k into the bank, the cashier will almost certainly innocently drop 'where did you get this sort of money from?' into the conversation - they have to do that for money laundering, as if they don't spot it, they're at fault.
If you're feeling brave just say something like 'ma biatches did well over the weekend, plus the new batch of coke flew out of the club saturday night' biggrin

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 16th October 2010
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I would be happy with it, but I would check the notes. If you aren't used to handling significant sums of cash, its a bit daunting.

If you can get a transfer or do it on weekday and pay into a bank, that will give you peace of mind.

You don't need to worry about money laundering - you aren't. Whether the buyer is laundering or not is their concern, not yours.

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

217 months

Saturday 16th October 2010
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Internet transfer using the faster payments system (mainly the bigger banks) has a limit of IIRC £10k, so three payments snd they should show up in the OP's account within a few minutes smile no need to mess about with having £25k in cash sitting in the house over a weekend wink

alphaone

1,019 posts

173 months

Saturday 16th October 2010
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I sold my car for 18K, guy came with cash, we both went to bank and deposited it, I gave him the keys in the bank and he was kind enougth to give me a lift home in his new car - job done :-)

Rocksteadyeddie

7,971 posts

227 months

Saturday 16th October 2010
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AndrewW-G said:
Internet transfer using the faster payments system (mainly the bigger banks) has a limit of IIRC £10k, so three payments snd they should show up in the OP's account within a few minutes smile no need to mess about with having £25k in cash sitting in the house over a weekend wink
Is it instant at the weekend though?

TRUENOSAM

763 posts

170 months

Saturday 16th October 2010
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alphaone said:
I sold my car for 18K, guy came with cash, we both went to bank and deposited it, I gave him the keys in the bank and he was kind enougth to give me a lift home in his new car - job done :-)
Thats the same as what I do also. Cant go wrong imo

kambites

67,553 posts

221 months

Saturday 16th October 2010
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I bought my car for (£16100) cash. I just went to my bank with the seller to withdraw the cash, then immediately went to his bank to pay it in.

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

217 months

Saturday 16th October 2010
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Rocksteadyeddie said:
AndrewW-G said:
Internet transfer using the faster payments system (mainly the bigger banks) has a limit of IIRC £10k, so three payments snd they should show up in the OP's account within a few minutes smile no need to mess about with having £25k in cash sitting in the house over a weekend wink
Is it instant at the weekend though?
yes may take a few minutes to go through, but would suggest that as a good time to walk a buyer through the paperwork and the cars controls smile

550Hep

3,135 posts

217 months

Saturday 16th October 2010
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Rocksteadyeddie said:
AndrewW-G said:
Internet transfer using the faster payments system (mainly the bigger banks) has a limit of IIRC £10k, so three payments snd they should show up in the OP's account within a few minutes smile no need to mess about with having £25k in cash sitting in the house over a weekend wink
Is it instant at the weekend though?
Yes