Fake watches, are they legal?
Discussion
martin320 said:
balmoral what are you on about . all im saying in my post is i have paid for goods i have not received. infact i want my money back and they can shove their watch up their fuc*ing arse dodgey tw*ts.
Sorry martin, the last bit of my reply was to what unrepentant had said, not what you had posted, guess it came out wrong. I hope you trace your money and get it sorted, its a big shame, my experience of them couldnt be more opposite to yours, I am happy with my purchase.
unrepentant said:
Anyone who buys a fake anything is a thief IMHO.
I speak as someone who has run a business that has lost millions through counterfeiting.
mmmm it doesnt always loose the company money.
a few years ago i bought a fake tag whilst on holiday in malaysia..
i really liked the watch it worked fine but when i lost the fake after two years... i ended up buying a real one to replace it !!!!!
so tag ended up with a sale that they would have never made without the fake....
Graham said:
Anyone who buys a fake anything is a thief IMHO.
I speak as someone who has run a business that has lost millions through counterfeiting.
mmmm it doesnt always loose the company money.
a few years ago i bought a fake tag whilst on holiday in malaysia..
i really liked the watch it worked fine but when i lost the fake after two years... i ended up buying a real one to replace it !!!!!
so tag ended up with a sale that they would have never made without the fake....
Mmm.......... You're the one in a million then.
Think on though. A lot of serious criminal gangs are involved in the distribution of counterfeit goods in this country, a lot of drug money is "washed" through the counterfeit goods trade as well. These counterfeiters don't just produce knock off Burberry and Nike either, they also produce brake pads and aeroplane parts.
Plus there's the issue of taste. Anyone who knows can spot a snide at a hundred yards and the wearer instantly becomes a cheapskate saddo wannabe.
martin320 said:
balmoral what are you on about . all im saying in my post is i have paid for goods i have not received. infact i want my money back and they can shove their watch up their fuc*ing arse dodgey tw*ts.
I believe that you have now received your watch,
plus a free gift, for the misunderstanding.
unrepentant said:
so tag ended up with a sale that they would have never made without the fake....
my Dad bought a fake Rolex when we went to Hong Kong and liked the shape/style so much went out and replaced it with a real oneneilr said:
A friend of mine bought me a fake rolex from pakistan not too long ago, visualy its almost indentical, not totally but fools most people. The main way I tell the difference is by the fact it can't keep time for s*^t! It loses about 25 minutes a day. Nice.
When I was a nipper I had a rollux (sp). It looked like the real thing, until about a month after purchasing it the hands started to go backwards
It told the correct time 4 times a day
neilr said:
A friend of mine bought me a fake rolex from pakistan not too long ago, visualy its almost indentical, not totally but fools most people. The main way I tell the difference is by the fact it can't keep time for s*^t! It loses about 25 minutes a day. Nice.
Sounds like a real one then!
Balmoral Green said:
Sorry to hear that, I ordered mine on a Monday, and it arrived on the Friday, paid via Paypal. As for counterfeiting losing the 'original' millions, yes if its a CD, but do you honestly think that when someone buys a fake Rolex for £99 thats another lost sale on a real one at £9,999.
I used to run a sports fashion company. We were plagued with counterfeit goods flooding into the country. The quality was dreadful whereas ours was excellent. The price was low whereas ours was much higher. The labelling was good enough to fool many people.
Because the quality was so poor and the quantities were so huge the image of the brand suffered and that affected retail sales. Whereas only wealthy football hooligans were wearing our gear before it was now common to see a lower class of chav sporting it.
Counterfeiting costs jobs and when you start talking about automotive and aeronautical parts, possibly lives. Plus, as I said before, anyone in the know can spot a fake a mile off and it just makes the owner look like a cheapskate.
I Was fooled recently with a very very good rolex submariner replica, it was spot on.
My father has a real one, so I had to compare both of them, the only difference was a very slight difference to the shoulders of the strap, I couldn't believe it.
Personally, I would be a bit hacked off as per unrepentant's feelings, but on the otherhand I will never be able to afford a real submariner until I retire, so why not?
(says casio g shock man
)
My father has a real one, so I had to compare both of them, the only difference was a very slight difference to the shoulders of the strap, I couldn't believe it.
Personally, I would be a bit hacked off as per unrepentant's feelings, but on the otherhand I will never be able to afford a real submariner until I retire, so why not?
(says casio g shock man
)In terms of their legality, simply owning or purchasing one is not illegal. When you leave the country I can assure you that Customs and Excise will not give a stuff.
Criminal offences will only arise if anyone tries to deceive someone, e.g. by trying to pass one off as real. Any other offences, i.e. copyright infringements will be a civil matter, and not something to worry Jo Public who just buys one of the watches.
Criminal offences will only arise if anyone tries to deceive someone, e.g. by trying to pass one off as real. Any other offences, i.e. copyright infringements will be a civil matter, and not something to worry Jo Public who just buys one of the watches.
xxplod is correct. It's "passing off" that is the main criminal issue - i.e pretending that the object is something it is not really.
Companies take out patents and copywrights on their products which they should, in theory, be able to enforce worldwide. However, not all governments treat claims of counterfeiting very seriously or even turn a blind eye to such activities.
Apart from lost sales, the other big issue is that, if there are more fakes circulating than the real thing, the market value of the real thing will be affected and may even force the original to be withdrawn.
Companies take out patents and copywrights on their products which they should, in theory, be able to enforce worldwide. However, not all governments treat claims of counterfeiting very seriously or even turn a blind eye to such activities.
Apart from lost sales, the other big issue is that, if there are more fakes circulating than the real thing, the market value of the real thing will be affected and may even force the original to be withdrawn.
neilr said:
A friend of mine bought me a fake rolex from pakistan not too long ago, visualy its almost indentical, not totally but fools most people. The main way I tell the difference is by the fact it can't keep time for s*^t! It loses about 25 minutes a day. Nice.
as the owner of a 'genuine' explorer II I can tell you that that only ads to the authenticity - Rolex watches are not good timekeepers!
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