Jolyon Palmer - F1

[eps]

patmahe said:

I'd imagine Palmer was given the seat again this year so Renault could gauge their progress with the new car more accurately. Two new drivers wouldn't have given as clear a picture. I agreed he is unlikely to still be there next year unless he can up his game get his dad to contribute considerably.

Fixed that for you!

[mycool]

HustleRussell said:

I would like to say at this point that the Russia crash wasn't Jolyon's fault.

No but his qualifying shunt was that put him in that position to get taken out.....

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/129232

[Crafty_]

Don't know how the mechanics haven't lamped him yet for his attitude.

Someone mentioned he was a great racer in GP2.. really ?

88 races, 7 wins, 19 podiums (inc the wins).
In his championship year he beat Vandoorne (who was a rookie) by 47 points and 3rd place Felipe Nasr (also a rookie) by 52.

ignore his last year, that becomes 66, 3 and 7 respectively.

All GP2 champions:

Driver	Races	Wins	Podiums
Rosberg	23	5	12
Hamilton	21	5	14
Glock	41	7	15
Pantano	79	9	23
Hulkenberg	20	5	10
Maldonado	73	10	18
Grosjean	58	9	21
Valsecchi	98	7	17
Leimer	84	4	14
Gasly	50	4	14

Valescchi now works for sky italy as a pundit, he has effectively retired.
Leimar is driving a glorified milk float
Pantano was last seen in Blancpain driver a tailender Mclaren.

I'm pretty sure Palmer can have a nice income from paid drives for "gentleman" GT race crews, but other than that ?

[anonymous-user]

Crafty_ said:

Don't know how the mechanics haven't lamped him yet for his attitude.

Someone mentioned he was a great racer in GP2.. really ?

88 races, 7 wins, 19 podiums (inc the wins).
In his championship year he beat Vandoorne (who was a rookie) by 47 points and 3rd place Felipe Nasr (also a rookie) by 52.

ignore his last year, that becomes 66, 3 and 7 respectively.

All GP2 champions:

Driver	Races	Wins	Podiums
Rosberg	23	5	12
Hamilton	21	5	14
Glock	41	7	15
Pantano	79	9	23
Hulkenberg	20	5	10
Maldonado	73	10	18
Grosjean	58	9	21
Valsecchi	98	7	17
Leimer	84	4	14
Gasly	50	4	14

Valescchi now works for sky italy as a pundit, he has effectively retired.
Leimar is driving a glorified milk float
Pantano was last seen in Blancpain driver a tailender Mclaren.

I'm pretty sure Palmer can have a nice income from paid drives for "gentleman" GT race crews, but other than that ?

Good points, well made.

Ps. Can someone tell Valsecchi he's actually not very good at commentating either, though his staccato co worker gets pretty annoying, too............

[funkyrobot]

I see the inspiring Jolyon continues with his form.

[carl_w]

Finished ahead of the Hulk today, can't help but thinking that 1 more place plus 1 point would have helped his cause.

[hornetrider]

A second off his team mate at his home GP?

[FourWheelDrift]

only 0.3s this morning, 10 less laps this afternoon than Hulkenberg. Sounds like more Renault reliability issues to me.

[hornetrider]

.8 adrift in FP3.

Nico 5th. Palmer 14th.

[HustleRussell]

The writing is on the wall

[hornetrider]

So there's a new floor for the car. Palmer had it for FP1 and Nico has had it since and will have it for the rest of the weekend. So he gets the benefit of the doubt for this weekend.

[slipstream 1985]

qualified 11th so starting as he means to go on.

[Frimley111R]

I know JP isn't exactly driving well but NH is very good and JP seems eternally beset with car issues. He doesn't get much luck.

[patmahe]

It's just speculation at the moment but it could be all over. Feel sorry for him if today was his last race.

https://wtf1.com/post/sainz-could-replace-palmer-a...

[Mr Tidy]

hornetrider said:

So there's a new floor for the car. Palmer had it for FP1 and Nico has had it since and will have it for the rest of the weekend. So he gets the benefit of the doubt for this weekend.

Probably just to make sure it didn't spit the car into the scenery!

To be fair Renault do seem to have found something effective, because on a power circuit like Silverstone it's probably safe to assume it wasn't engine power that got NH to where he finished!

But I did feel a sorry for JP - how can he do anything when he doesn't even get to the grid?!

Who knows, if CS did go to Renault it may prove to be an inspired move (like LH to Mercedes or SV to Ferrari) - but I'm sure Toro Rosso would prefer to keep him and move DK on!

As always, it'll be interesting to see how the dust settles.

[Order66]

So given he's broken the car through mistakes in FP1 and FP2 today what do you think his chances of keeping the seat past the summer break are? Surely Renault would want someone, anyone else in that seat.

[hornetrider]

Order66 said:

So given he's broken the car through mistakes in FP1 and FP2 today what do you think his chances of keeping the seat past the summer break are? Surely Renault would want someone, anyone else in that seat.

Kubica is testing the car next week too.

[cuprabob]

He's effectively hammering in the nails into his own coffin.

He was a pundit in Formula E and that's where he is heading back to.

[stevesingo]

He has completely proven his inability to handle pressure. He has got a drive in a team which his his to lose, and he is doing a good job of it. He doesn´t need to beat Hulk to get kept on next year, just get within a couple of tenths. He can´t and he knows he needs to up his game, but the harder he tries the worse he gets. That lack of composure is not what WDCs are made of.

Sadly, he has a contract in which he is paying to be there. Not that Renault needs the money, but is different to him being a pure employee who could be handed his P45.

My reckoning is, we will have to put up with him until the end of the season.

[VolvoT5]

At this stage I believe that despite the bad luck he is simply not up to it.

I think that any other active driver on the grid would be doing a better job (yes including Stroll) and there are several promising young drivers that are not currently in F1 who would be unlikely to do worse if given the chance. Plus Kubica hanging around as well.