Lewis Hamilton
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37chevy said:
This. Which is why you can’t really compare different eras. the gulf between the top drivers is so small these days when compared to the 80s and 90s....it tends to be that last tenth of 2 which the top drivers can extract that sets them apart. Most drivers could probably win races in the merc or Ferrari....question is could they regularly beat the likes of Vettel and Hamilton as their team mates in a straight fight....doubtful
In the same cars, yes. Ricciardo, Alonso and Max for sure.
Sainz would also win some races.
Quickmoose said:
That said... I personally feel the guy has extreme talent i a field of extremely talented drivers. Would be good to them all in the same car to see for sure...
Nobody doubts Alonso is one of the best in F1. Hamilton was in the same car in his rookie year and beat Alonso fair and square.StevieBee said:
Whilst other drivers pound the gym, spend time in the sim and generally devote their lives to their sport, Hamilton appears to spend time chilling, hanging out with all and sundry and generally not doing all those other things yet still manages to turn up on race weekends and more often than not out-drive everyone else.
The appearance is that he operates within a far greater cognitive capacity than his peers.
Do you really think Hamilton does not spent as much time in the gym as the other drivers?The appearance is that he operates within a far greater cognitive capacity than his peers.
Sorry but this is laughable.
37chevy said:
This. Which is why you can’t really compare different eras. the gulf between the top drivers is so small these days when compared to the 80s and 90s....it tends to be that last tenth of 2 which the top drivers can extract that sets them apart. Most drivers could probably win races in the merc or Ferrari....question is could they regularly beat the likes of Vettel and Hamilton as their team mates in a straight fight....doubtful
Totally different sport now.Safety and tracks are so safe that drivers can drive 100% without facing a wall or a gravel trap.
Tenths shows that the difference is extremely small due to how much easier it is to push the limits.
Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 17th November 18:08
ELUSIVEJIM said:
StevieBee said:
Whilst other drivers pound the gym, spend time in the sim and generally devote their lives to their sport, Hamilton appears to spend time chilling, hanging out with all and sundry and generally not doing all those other things yet still manages to turn up on race weekends and more often than not out-drive everyone else.
The appearance is that he operates within a far greater cognitive capacity than his peers.
Do you really think Hamilton does not spent as much time in the gym as the other drivers?The appearance is that he operates within a far greater cognitive capacity than his peers.
Sorry but this is laughable.
Bottas on LH:
"I always knew he was a good driver, but I never knew how much he works."
"He works hard, he spends a lot of time with the guys, at the race weekends, visits the factory quite a bit."
( motorsport.tv interview)
ELUSIVEJIM said:
Totally different sport now.
Safety and tracks are so safe that drivers can drive 100% without facing a wall or a gravel trap.
Tenths shows that the difference is extremely small due to how much easier it is to push the limits.
Yup for once we agree. Think that’s one of the reasons things are much closer these days...that and so much training from a young age, and so much meticulous work behind the scenes. The cream still rises to the top though. Just the difference between great and good are smallerSafety and tracks are so safe that drivers can drive 100% without facing a wall or a gravel trap.
Tenths shows that the difference is extremely small due to how much easier it is to push the limits.
Edited by ELUSIVEJIM on Friday 17th November 18:08
liner33 said:
If it was the money or success that people dislike why was Jenson Button pretty much universally liked ?
I'm a fan of Lewis so don't understand why he is so poorly liked but you have to consider his race might be an issue for some.
Jensen Button was a scheming, slyly back-stabbing arseI'm a fan of Lewis so don't understand why he is so poorly liked but you have to consider his race might be an issue for some.
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Lewis Hamilton has revealed he told Formula 1 title rival Sebastian Vettel not to "disrespect" him again after their clash under the safety car during June's Azerbaijan Grand Prix.
In an exclusive interview with Motorsport.tv's The Flying Lap, Hamilton explained what he said to Vettel in private following the incident.
"When I spoke to him later, I was like 'that's a sign of disrespect, so don't ever disrespect me like that again otherwise then we will have problems'," said Hamilton.
"I've never done that to someone. I don't even know what he was thinking to have done... I've never been in a position like that.
"I guess people react differently under certain pressures."
Hamilton revealed that his quiet reaction to the incident at the time was caused by a desire not to cause a "negative swirl".
"I think there's different ways in which you can handle things," said Hamilton.
"I knew what I was there to do and I wasn't going to let anything distract me from doing that.
"I wasn't going to let myself say something or react in a way that's going to cause some negative swirl which is going to steer me off course from my ultimate goal.
"And naturally, with the experience you learn to just compartmentalise all those different things."
Lewis Hamilton has revealed he told Formula 1 title rival Sebastian Vettel not to "disrespect" him again after their clash under the safety car during June's Azerbaijan Grand Prix.
In an exclusive interview with Motorsport.tv's The Flying Lap, Hamilton explained what he said to Vettel in private following the incident.
"When I spoke to him later, I was like 'that's a sign of disrespect, so don't ever disrespect me like that again otherwise then we will have problems'," said Hamilton.
"I've never done that to someone. I don't even know what he was thinking to have done... I've never been in a position like that.
"I guess people react differently under certain pressures."
Hamilton revealed that his quiet reaction to the incident at the time was caused by a desire not to cause a "negative swirl".
"I think there's different ways in which you can handle things," said Hamilton.
"I knew what I was there to do and I wasn't going to let anything distract me from doing that.
"I wasn't going to let myself say something or react in a way that's going to cause some negative swirl which is going to steer me off course from my ultimate goal.
"And naturally, with the experience you learn to just compartmentalise all those different things."
mattb46 said:
Jensen Button was a scheming, slyly back-stabbing arse
That’s much stronger language than I’d use but I think he is very sharp at presenting himself well and I’m sure he’s very charming. I also think he has been very political in the background (perfect storm with Whitmarsh).I don’t hold it against him, it’s just the way it is and being able to manipulate the situation is a useful skill for an F1 driver. I don’t think Lewis can do this anything like as well as Jenson, I don’t think he knows how to charm people in the same way. But Lewis is a level above Jenson as a driver and has some other traits that annoy people.
I’m happy to watch them all.... Even Seb and Max :-)
Jenson did renege on a contract to join Williams...
http://www.crash.net/f1/news/53476/1/williams-bar-...
http://www.crash.net/f1/news/53476/1/williams-bar-...
StevieBee said:
Thank back to London 2012...
When it was announced London would bid, everyone was "waste of time and money - we'll never win it"
When we won it, everyone was "yeah, but we'll make a complete pigs ear of it"
When we put on what was without doubt the best Olympics up to then (and since), everyone was "yeah, but what a waste of money"
When it was shown to have broken even, everyone was 'yeah...but what about the legacy'
Then it's 'There's too many cyclists....we blame the Olympics...."
And on and on it goes.
Me and the Mrs laughing at this.When it was announced London would bid, everyone was "waste of time and money - we'll never win it"
When we won it, everyone was "yeah, but we'll make a complete pigs ear of it"
When we put on what was without doubt the best Olympics up to then (and since), everyone was "yeah, but what a waste of money"
When it was shown to have broken even, everyone was 'yeah...but what about the legacy'
Then it's 'There's too many cyclists....we blame the Olympics...."
And on and on it goes.
Sums us Brits up perfectly.
_Leg_ said:
StevieBee said:
Thank back to London 2012...
When it was announced London would bid, everyone was "waste of time and money - we'll never win it"
When we won it, everyone was "yeah, but we'll make a complete pigs ear of it"
When we put on what was without doubt the best Olympics up to then (and since), everyone was "yeah, but what a waste of money"
When it was shown to have broken even, everyone was 'yeah...but what about the legacy'
Then it's 'There's too many cyclists....we blame the Olympics...."
And on and on it goes.
Me and the Mrs laughing at this.When it was announced London would bid, everyone was "waste of time and money - we'll never win it"
When we won it, everyone was "yeah, but we'll make a complete pigs ear of it"
When we put on what was without doubt the best Olympics up to then (and since), everyone was "yeah, but what a waste of money"
When it was shown to have broken even, everyone was 'yeah...but what about the legacy'
Then it's 'There's too many cyclists....we blame the Olympics...."
And on and on it goes.
Sums us Brits up perfectly.
cuprabob said:
Jenson did renege on a contract to join Williams...
http://www.crash.net/f1/news/53476/1/williams-bar-...
after being dicked around by frank and being moved in and out of teams once he'd settled Button basically bought himself out of contract, something frank made him pay very dearly for and largely why he was tied to an under performing honda for so many years.http://www.crash.net/f1/news/53476/1/williams-bar-...
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