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Hungrymc

6,649 posts

137 months

Friday 7th October 2016
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poing said:
He's using a phone app to put cute bunny ears on people, in Japan? I'd say he's fitting in perfectly with the local culture so I don't see an issue.
That's because you accept that not everyone sees the world in the same way as you. Or has the same expectations as you.

It's frankly bizarre how some on here think their view and opinions are the only 'right' and 'acceptable' ones .... I'm astounded.

Trabi601

4,865 posts

95 months

Friday 7th October 2016
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Hungrymc said:
That's because you accept that not everyone sees the world in the same way as you. Or has the same expectations as you.

It's frankly bizarre how some on here think their view and opinions are the only 'right' and 'acceptable' ones .... I'm astounded.
I'll say it again.

31 years old, 3 times world champion. Which makes him one of the most senior drivers on the grid.

Do you really think his behaviour is befitting of a senior figure in his field?

He often behaves like a teenage rookie - some perspective, he's only 5-ish years younger than JB, who is considered an elder statesman and example of how an F1 driver should conduct themselves. But he grew out of his petulant teenage phase very early in his career.

HustleRussell

24,637 posts

160 months

Saturday 8th October 2016
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I wouldn't describe Hamilton as 'petulant' these days

lord summerisle

8,138 posts

225 months

Saturday 8th October 2016
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Sir Bagalot said:
Totally agree. There used to be a Fans Forum, and a few years back I was lucky enough to get a ticket. Was a great informal session with a Q&A tagged on. Lewis never took the opportunity to attend.
and yet, for the last few years he has turned up to the British GP after party to say thank you to the fans.

There was also that article that was posted on here that Hamilton can often be found at the back of the paddock signing autographs for fans through the fence.

lord summerisle

8,138 posts

225 months

Saturday 8th October 2016
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Trabi601 said:
31 years old, 3 times world champion. Which makes him one of the most senior drivers on the grid.

Do you really think his behaviour is befitting of a senior figure in his field?
yes he should be boring and mundane and drive a Passat, and have 2.4 children like other 30 year olds... attend his weekly meeting and answer in a robotic monotone...then you can rag on him for being boring and mundane and just a corporate robot.

Hungrymc

6,649 posts

137 months

Saturday 8th October 2016
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Trabi601 said:
I'll say it again.

31 years old, 3 times world champion. Which makes him one of the most senior drivers on the grid.

Do you really think his behaviour is befitting of a senior figure in his field?

He often behaves like a teenage rookie - some perspective, he's only 5-ish years younger than JB, who is considered an elder statesman and example of how an F1 driver should conduct themselves. But he grew out of his petulant teenage phase very early in his career.
yes, completely befitting. He doesn't get up in the morning with the intention of impressing you or I. He wants to be part of a different world to that which I (and presumably you) are part of. I don't like some of the stuff he does, but that's because he and I are into different things and he's earned the right to be whoever he chooses. I can always switch off, and Merc can sack him if they don't like it. Everyone on here loves JB, he seems a lovely bloke, an absolute stereotype for a charming enough, middle class chap, he fits the expected model on here, Lewis doesn't, he will presumably appeal to others..... So what?

Someone is even hinting at homosexuality on this thread, and they're doing so as an insult. Have I woken up in the 70s? People are offended that he chooses to be different to them, I guess it's because he's also very successful so is some sort of threat to our 'model' of who you "should' be? It's a diverse old world out there you know.

He isn't a personality I will ever like. But I thought this was a Motorsport forum and not some celebrity gossip forum. I'll leave you all to it.

Crafty_

13,277 posts

200 months

Saturday 8th October 2016
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^^ Exactly.

He doesn't give a stuff what you think. He used to but he's passed that now.

Dislike him all you like, fact is he's still one of the best drivers to ever step in to an F1 car.

Smollet

10,528 posts

190 months

Saturday 8th October 2016
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Don't care what he does out of the car provided it's legal. These press conferences need livening up as it's normally just PC corporate bks most of the time.

tommunster10

1,128 posts

91 months

Saturday 8th October 2016
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Crafty_ said:
^^ Exactly.

He doesn't give a stuff what you think. He used to but he's passed that now.

Dislike him all you like, fact is he's still one of the best drivers to ever step in to an F1 car.
You know him personally? Cool if you do.
Like i say i like Lewis as when I've seen him interact with his amazing brother Nicolas. Lewis is clearly a lovely bloke but no one is beyond reproach to me.
Anyway he is one of the best drivers to ever step into an F1 car, but to be fair it's also the same F1 car that makes Nico look like the worlds 2nd best driver in F1 and at times the fastest driver....

r11co

6,244 posts

230 months

Saturday 8th October 2016
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ukaskew said:
The irony is that people used to love drivers that stepped out of line, and claim to want more of that today.

This is basically the modern version of that, you simply can't get away with partying/drinking now (and such things are massively in decline with youngsters anyway)
It isn't the modern version of that. That is one out-of-touch oldie's rose-tinted interpretation of what is going on.

It is the modern equivalent of Kevin the Teenager, with the difference that the verging on middle-aged person acting like a teenage spoiled brat is doing it for real.

It's not calculated and for show either as some people are saying - he's been like that since day one, it's just that he's got cockier as his sense of entitlement has grown.

Edited by r11co on Saturday 8th October 09:14

Crafty_

13,277 posts

200 months

Saturday 8th October 2016
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r11co said:
It isn't the modern version of that. That is one out-of-touch oldie's rose-tinted interpretation of what is going on.

It is the modern equivalent of Kevin the Teenager, with the difference that the verging on middle-aged person acting like a teenage spoiled brat is doing it for real.

It's not calculated and for show either as some people are saying - he's been like that since day one, it's just that he's got cockier as his sense of entitlement has grown.

Edited by r11co on Saturday 8th October 09:14
This cracks me up. What other "acts" show his sense of entitlement then?

Hungrymc

6,649 posts

137 months

Saturday 8th October 2016
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r11co said:
It isn't the modern version of that. That is one out-of-touch oldie's rose-tinted interpretation of what is going on.

It is the modern equivalent of Kevin the Teenager, with the difference that the verging on middle-aged person acting like a teenage spoiled brat is doing it for real.

It's not calculated and for show either as some people are saying - he's been like that since day one, it's just that he's got cockier as his sense of entitlement has grown.

Edited by r11co on Saturday 8th October 09:14
Couldn't you say that shagging, partying, smoking and drinking late into the night so you turn up at work in an incredibly demanding job with a hangover and unfit is a sign of entitlement ? Attributional bias I think is the most relevant expression.

NRS

22,133 posts

201 months

Saturday 8th October 2016
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Hungrymc said:
r11co said:
It isn't the modern version of that. That is one out-of-touch oldie's rose-tinted interpretation of what is going on.

It is the modern equivalent of Kevin the Teenager, with the difference that the verging on middle-aged person acting like a teenage spoiled brat is doing it for real.

It's not calculated and for show either as some people are saying - he's been like that since day one, it's just that he's got cockier as his sense of entitlement has grown.

Edited by r11co on Saturday 8th October 09:14
Couldn't you say that shagging, partying, smoking and drinking late into the night so you turn up at work in an incredibly demanding job with a hangover and unfit is a sign of entitlement ? Attributional bias I think is the most relevant expression.
The irony is that that culture which would be "ok" would have been shocking and completely disrespectful/ against the rules of the day for the older people looking at the sport. So it's pretty ironic that now those people have grown up they're doing the same to the next generation's culture.

hairyben

8,516 posts

183 months

Saturday 8th October 2016
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Back in reality lewis, certainally his post mclaren more relaxed self, often seemed the bored/disruptive/mucking about kid (or ADD they call it today I think) in press confs, are people really suprised by this?

But well done on the sob sob we hate hamilton thread, lets keep it all in here so it doesnt get diluted by those race threads where people keep interupting with some "race car" stuff rolleyes have you seen how he dresses ffs rolleyeslaughrolleyes and all that jewelly he thinks he's Mr T hahahhaha

speedysoprano

224 posts

119 months

Saturday 8th October 2016
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tommunster10 said:
It is just the media being mardy and using the pretense that it was rude to the fans, which it isn't, its an insult to media, good.
But i will add, quite what a 31 year old man is doing putting silly animal faces on himself and other men around him, is extremely hard to understand the fun in that personally.
Is that fun?
Also the swearword is out of place if he has younger fans.

"this st is killing me" Is what i'd expect a 13 year old kid in a class at school to write to his 'followers' about being bored, not a 31 year old man during a press conference, i mean sat there based on an hourly rate he must of earned thousands.... real hard life.



Edited by tommunster10 on Thursday 6th October 16:18


Edited by tommunster10 on Thursday 6th October 16:19
I'm 33 and 100% would do the same and find it hilarious. Sense-of-humourectomies are not compulsory past the age of 30.

I see very little wrong with this. Harmless fun, mountains out of molehills etc. Far worse is done every day.

Smollet

10,528 posts

190 months

Saturday 8th October 2016
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speedysoprano said:
I'm 33 and 100% would do the same and find it hilarious. Sense-of-humourectomies are not compulsory past the age of 30.

I see very little wrong with this. Harmless fun, mountains out of molehills etc. Far worse is done every day.
I'm 63 and derive great pleasure from childish pursuits. That app looks fun.

RichB

51,520 posts

284 months

Saturday 8th October 2016
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Is this the correct thread on which to say that today Hamilton, who qualified 2nd, got out of his car, shook hands with his team mate. During the formal interviews said what a good job Rosberg had done all weekend and in the pen afterwards seemed quite cheerful and answered all the questions fully. laugh

Crafty_

13,277 posts

200 months

Saturday 8th October 2016
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NRS said:
The irony is that that culture which would be "ok" would have been shocking and completely disrespectful/ against the rules of the day for the older people looking at the sport. So it's pretty ironic that now those people have grown up they're doing the same to the next generation's culture.
Quite, many hold Hunt as some sort of hero for behaving just like that and in a far "worse" way than Hamilton.

What it comes down to is that whatever you do, someone will criticse - for some reason it seems that this is especially true for Lewis.

fulham911club

2,046 posts

242 months

Saturday 8th October 2016
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Take yourself back 40 years and the antics of James Hunt. If a pistonheads poll was carried out that asked who do you / did you prefer between James Hunt and Nikki Lauda I wonder what the result would be ....

swisstoni

16,949 posts

279 months

Saturday 8th October 2016
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RichB said:
Is this the correct thread on which to say that today Hamilton, who qualified 2nd, got out of his car, shook hands with his team mate. During the formal interviews said what a good job Rosberg had done all weekend and in the pen afterwards seemed quite cheerful and answered all the questions fully. laugh
"Well he's just no fun then. Who does he think he is?"
Etc, etc ad nauseam.

The plain fact is, he's never going to get a fair go from some people, for reasons perhaps best left for them to ponder on.
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