Lewis Hamilton
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ELUSIVEJIM said:
Nigel Mansell in the express said:
"I would be very surprised if Lewis did not sign a new deal with Mercedes"
End of story.Munter said:
ELUSIVEJIM said:
Nigel Mansell in the express said:
"I would be very surprised if Lewis did not sign a new deal with Mercedes"
End of story.HustleRussell said:
I'd like Hamilton to move, it'd spice up the already exciting 2019 driver market no end.
If he was thinking about moving, he'd play the waiting game. See where the teams are, if he's better off where he is. Nothing would happen in the driver market until he signed. Danny Ric is waiting to see how things pan out.I don't see Lewis leaving Mercedes there though. They know and understand him and his ways, I'm guessing that would count for a lot Lewis.
37chevy said:
Dakkon said:
Rumour has it that Zak Brown is waving a very big cheque at him...
Would be somewhat poetic. Start his career by beating Alonso and ending it by replacing him
HighwayStar said:
I don't see Lewis leaving Mercedes there though.
Agreed, he is only off if Mercedes implodes this season or Mercedes leave F1. However I would love to see him race for Ferrari and get WDCs with three different teams. Kimi must be leaving at the end of the season, so there is a 0.0000000000000000001% chance Lewis could end up at Ferrari.As easy to bracket Lewis as superficial man-child who loves bling culture it continues to suprise me when his maturity/intellect revealed as in this James Allison interview with Motorsportmagazine:
You were very aware of Lewis Hamilton’s ability, having competed against him with Renault, Lotus and Ferrari from 2007 to 2016. When you began working with him, how close were your perceptions to reality?
“He certainly surprised me – right from the outset. Although we’d worked in the same sport for a decade or so, we only shook hands for the first time on the first day of Barcelona testing in 2017, after which he went off to drive and I sat down to look at my computer. Our paths didn’t cross again until later in the day, when he wandered over to be friendly.
“He’d just finished a run during which he’d had quite a big moment at Turn 4. By way of saying ‘hello’ he asked whether I’d seen what happened and I sort of know the etiquette in these circumstances. You generally coo a bit at the driver for being super-brave, but I didn’t want my first conversation with Lewis to be one of that nature. Equally, I admire the way drivers seem to be carefree about their own health in a way I never could, so I chose what I thought was a well-calibrated middle ground and said to him, ‘Yeah, I saw it, but the thing that always surprises me about you f
kers is that you come back the next lap and do it all over again.’ I thought that would be mildly funny, but I could see from Lewis’s face that he didn’t receive it in the way it was meant and he skulked away to the garage.
“A bit later Toto Wolff came up and said, ‘Lewis mentioned that you were a bit rude to him…’ I promised to sort it out.
“Back in the factory after the test, I sat down with Lewis in the canteen. I apologised for what I’d said, explained why I’d said it, told him I never swear when I’m cross but that I did it because it mildly amuses me and that I’d tone it down in future. He was laughing by then, told me not to worry and that I’d just caught him a bit off-guard.
“He then caught me completely off my guard by telling me how sorry he’d been to hear about what had happened to my wife [Becky Allison succumbed to meningitis in 2016]. People don’t always have the confidence to be straightforward about these things, but I thought it was lovely that he mentioned it. In your head the loss churns around and around, while the rest of the world carries on as though nothing had happened.
“He added that from what people had told him, the sadness never leaves but over time things would become easier and I’d learn to live with that sadness. I absolutely wasn’t expecting a conversation like this. We see the public face of Lewis – the Tweets, the fashion, stuff like that – but this was a mature, sensitive, confident conversation. Drivers aren’t known for their emotional sensitivity, but he said he hoped I’d be lucky and find happiness again in the future. I was very grateful for that. I thanked him and said that any such happiness would probably involve me having to speak to a girl – and that I was really crap at that. He laughed and said, ‘Well, maybe just don’t call them fkers…’ That, I think, gives you a much better sense of what he’s like than anything I could tell you about his work ethic, his driving or his determination to win.”
https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/opinion/f1/merc...
You were very aware of Lewis Hamilton’s ability, having competed against him with Renault, Lotus and Ferrari from 2007 to 2016. When you began working with him, how close were your perceptions to reality?
“He certainly surprised me – right from the outset. Although we’d worked in the same sport for a decade or so, we only shook hands for the first time on the first day of Barcelona testing in 2017, after which he went off to drive and I sat down to look at my computer. Our paths didn’t cross again until later in the day, when he wandered over to be friendly.
“He’d just finished a run during which he’d had quite a big moment at Turn 4. By way of saying ‘hello’ he asked whether I’d seen what happened and I sort of know the etiquette in these circumstances. You generally coo a bit at the driver for being super-brave, but I didn’t want my first conversation with Lewis to be one of that nature. Equally, I admire the way drivers seem to be carefree about their own health in a way I never could, so I chose what I thought was a well-calibrated middle ground and said to him, ‘Yeah, I saw it, but the thing that always surprises me about you f
kers is that you come back the next lap and do it all over again.’ I thought that would be mildly funny, but I could see from Lewis’s face that he didn’t receive it in the way it was meant and he skulked away to the garage.“A bit later Toto Wolff came up and said, ‘Lewis mentioned that you were a bit rude to him…’ I promised to sort it out.
“Back in the factory after the test, I sat down with Lewis in the canteen. I apologised for what I’d said, explained why I’d said it, told him I never swear when I’m cross but that I did it because it mildly amuses me and that I’d tone it down in future. He was laughing by then, told me not to worry and that I’d just caught him a bit off-guard.
“He then caught me completely off my guard by telling me how sorry he’d been to hear about what had happened to my wife [Becky Allison succumbed to meningitis in 2016]. People don’t always have the confidence to be straightforward about these things, but I thought it was lovely that he mentioned it. In your head the loss churns around and around, while the rest of the world carries on as though nothing had happened.
“He added that from what people had told him, the sadness never leaves but over time things would become easier and I’d learn to live with that sadness. I absolutely wasn’t expecting a conversation like this. We see the public face of Lewis – the Tweets, the fashion, stuff like that – but this was a mature, sensitive, confident conversation. Drivers aren’t known for their emotional sensitivity, but he said he hoped I’d be lucky and find happiness again in the future. I was very grateful for that. I thanked him and said that any such happiness would probably involve me having to speak to a girl – and that I was really crap at that. He laughed and said, ‘Well, maybe just don’t call them f
kers…’ That, I think, gives you a much better sense of what he’s like than anything I could tell you about his work ethic, his driving or his determination to win.”https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/opinion/f1/merc...
entropy said:
easy to bracket Lewis as superficial man-child…
…I thought that would be mildly funny, but I could see from Lewis’s face that he didn’t receive it in the way it was meant and he skulked away to the garage.
A bit later Toto Wolff came up and said, ‘Lewis mentioned that you were a bit rude to him…’
32 year old can’t communicate to a co-worker that he doesn’t like jovial swearing, ‘skulks off’ and tells the boss.…I thought that would be mildly funny, but I could see from Lewis’s face that he didn’t receive it in the way it was meant and he skulked away to the garage.
A bit later Toto Wolff came up and said, ‘Lewis mentioned that you were a bit rude to him…’
I’ll leave out the discussion on the appropriateness of offering long overdue condolences for somebody you never met in apparently the second conversation the two had, and attempting to offer profound insight about grief when you have presumably never experienced grief on that scale yourself…
I think that article makes me like James Allison more and Lewis Hamilton less (which is a shame, as he has been on a steady upward trend with me for over a year)
He also goes into say:
“If you take away that DNF, he’d have been on average about two points a race worse off than Lewis – two points for which Valtteri would not excuse himself, but let’s remember who he’s up against. Lewis is one of the all-time greats – and might even be the greatest by the time he hangs up his helmet. “
“If you take away that DNF, he’d have been on average about two points a race worse off than Lewis – two points for which Valtteri would not excuse himself, but let’s remember who he’s up against. Lewis is one of the all-time greats – and might even be the greatest by the time he hangs up his helmet. “
LDN said:
He also goes into say:
“If you take away that DNF, he’d have been on average about two points a race worse off than Lewis – two points for which Valtteri would not excuse himself, but let’s remember who he’s up against. Lewis is one of the all-time greats – and might even be the greatest by the time he hangs up his helmet. “
Lewis the greatest of all when he retires?“If you take away that DNF, he’d have been on average about two points a race worse off than Lewis – two points for which Valtteri would not excuse himself, but let’s remember who he’s up against. Lewis is one of the all-time greats – and might even be the greatest by the time he hangs up his helmet. “
That made my day
HustleRussell said:
32 year old can’t communicate to a co-worker that he doesn’t like jovial swearing, ‘skulks off’ and tells the boss.
I’ll leave out the discussion on the appropriateness of offering long overdue condolences for somebody you never met in apparently the second conversation the two had, and attempting to offer profound insight about grief when you have presumably never experienced grief on that scale yourself…
I think that article makes me like James Allison more and Lewis Hamilton less (which is a shame, as he has been on a steady upward trend with me for over a year)
As I have said so many times, Lewis is great when things are going his way but if anyone upsets that he sulks.I’ll leave out the discussion on the appropriateness of offering long overdue condolences for somebody you never met in apparently the second conversation the two had, and attempting to offer profound insight about grief when you have presumably never experienced grief on that scale yourself…
I think that article makes me like James Allison more and Lewis Hamilton less (which is a shame, as he has been on a steady upward trend with me for over a year)
If Ferrari or Red Bull produce a car faster than the Mercedes for 2018 you will see the "spit the dummy" Lewis arise again.
paulguitar said:
Why's that?
F1 is a totally different sport compared to the past.Put any modern F1 driver in a car from 20 years ago without the huge run off areas and they would sh** themselves.
When you have Youtube stars able to lap a modern F1 car with apparent ease you know the sport has failed.
Gad-Westy said:
ELUSIVEJIM said:
Put any modern F1 driver in a car from 20 years ago without the huge run off areas and they would sh** themselves.
How can you possibly know that?James Allison on the other hand; he knows a fair bit! He’s just called LH an ‘all time great’ and potentially the best of all time.
But that doesn’t fit Jim’s narrative, so you’ll see a lot of straw clutching.
HustleRussell said:
32 year old can’t communicate to a co-worker that he doesn’t like jovial swearing, ‘skulks off’ and tells the boss.
I’ll leave out the discussion on the appropriateness of offering long overdue condolences for somebody you never met in apparently the second conversation the two had, and attempting to offer profound insight about grief when you have presumably never experienced grief on that scale yourself…
I think that article makes me like James Allison more and Lewis Hamilton less (which is a shame, as he has been on a steady upward trend with me for over a year)
Well, J.Allison had the conversation with L.Hamilton and think that he is a lovely guy and great driver. Maybe the way the story has been written doesn't tell you the all story. I’ll leave out the discussion on the appropriateness of offering long overdue condolences for somebody you never met in apparently the second conversation the two had, and attempting to offer profound insight about grief when you have presumably never experienced grief on that scale yourself…
I think that article makes me like James Allison more and Lewis Hamilton less (which is a shame, as he has been on a steady upward trend with me for over a year)
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