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InductionRoar

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132 months

Tuesday 18th September 2018
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E34-3.2 said:
kambites said:
InductionRoar said:
It was said on the C4 coverage that "somebody" had calculated that if you factor in the power deficit the Red Bull suffers to the Mercedes Max's lap would have been a tenth quicker. Not to be sniffed at.
I thought they said a tenth slower, but yes Max's lap was also enormously impressive.
Yes, it was a tenth slower than Hamilton. Funny how people change the stories...
Did you watch the C4 coverage?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAOBwsgWKAw

Edited by InductionRoar on Tuesday 18th September 14:05

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Tuesday 18th September 2018
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Unfortunately for Ferrari Lewis seems right at the top of his game right now.

sparta6

3,696 posts

100 months

Tuesday 18th September 2018
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Gaz. said:
If Max was going to grow up he'd have done it by now,
he's almost a teenager biggrin

Mike Tyson didn't grow up until he was 25

E34-3.2

1,003 posts

79 months

Tuesday 18th September 2018
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InductionRoar said:
E34-3.2 said:
kambites said:
InductionRoar said:
It was said on the C4 coverage that "somebody" had calculated that if you factor in the power deficit the Red Bull suffers to the Mercedes Max's lap would have been a tenth quicker. Not to be sniffed at.
I thought they said a tenth slower, but yes Max's lap was also enormously impressive.
Yes, it was a tenth slower than Hamilton. Funny how people change the stories...
Did you watch the C4 coverage?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAOBwsgWKAw

Edited by InductionRoar on Tuesday 18th September 14:05
Sky, it was mentioned that he will have been a tenth slower. C4... Jordan verbal diarrhea is too much for me to handle. wink
Max had a great lap with less horsepower than the Merc and Ferrari but Lewis had an even better one with less grip and more power than Max. Vettel mentioned than the lap was beatable... he is struggling to admit that 2 guys shown him how to do it.
Still, I think of a win for Vettel in the next race.

glazbagun

14,279 posts

197 months

Tuesday 18th September 2018
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Vettel is mentally broken.

Stan the Bat

8,916 posts

212 months

Tuesday 18th September 2018
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Gaz. said:
If Max was going to grow up he'd have done it by now,

swisstoni

16,985 posts

279 months

Tuesday 18th September 2018
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E34-3.2 said:
InductionRoar said:
E34-3.2 said:
kambites said:
InductionRoar said:
It was said on the C4 coverage that "somebody" had calculated that if you factor in the power deficit the Red Bull suffers to the Mercedes Max's lap would have been a tenth quicker. Not to be sniffed at.
I thought they said a tenth slower, but yes Max's lap was also enormously impressive.
Yes, it was a tenth slower than Hamilton. Funny how people change the stories...
Did you watch the C4 coverage?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAOBwsgWKAw

Edited by InductionRoar on Tuesday 18th September 14:05
Sky, it was mentioned that he will have been a tenth slower. C4... Jordan verbal diarrhea is too much for me to handle. wink
Max had a great lap with less horsepower than the Merc and Ferrari but Lewis had an even better one with less grip and more power than Max. Vettel mentioned than the lap was beatable... he is struggling to admit that 2 guys shown him how to do it.
Still, I think of a win for Vettel in the next race.
Perhaps Ferrari's modelling had predicted they could have achieved a faster lap than Hamilton if they had got it all together. I believe them actually as I maintain that the Fezzer is a monster if it is given the chance.

48Valves

1,949 posts

209 months

Tuesday 18th September 2018
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Stan the Bat said:
Gaz. said:
If Max was going to grow up he'd have done it by now,
I'm 39 and haven't grown up yet.

E34-3.2

1,003 posts

79 months

Tuesday 18th September 2018
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swisstoni said:
Perhaps Ferrari's modelling had predicted they could have achieved a faster lap than Hamilton if they had got it all together. I believe them actually as I maintain that the Fezzer is a monster if it is given the chance.
Yes, I believe so. That Ferrari well driven is just exceptionally good. Toto mentioned the same thing about Hamilton lap. He went faster than what the modeling had predicted. Fascinating.
The only time I have heard of something similar was when Loeb did Pikes peak with Peugeot. He went quicker than what the computers and engineers calculated as the ultimate time.

CoolHands

18,630 posts

195 months

Tuesday 18th September 2018
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All that calculating its 1/10 slower, or faster, whatever. Coulda shoulda woulda. But didn’t

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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48Valves said:
I'm 39 and haven't grown up yet.
I know people twice your age who haven't grown up. Who wants to grow up its highly over rated

48Valves

1,949 posts

209 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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johnxjsc1985 said:
48Valves said:
I'm 39 and haven't grown up yet.
I know people twice your age who haven't grown up. Who wants to grow up its highly over rated
Not me. I'll get old (hopefully) but I will never grow up!

oyster

12,595 posts

248 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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InductionRoar said:
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Put Max in the other Mercedes and you will see it every other week IMO. It was said on the C4 coverage that "somebody" had calculated that if you factor in the power deficit the Red Bull suffers to the Mercedes Max's lap would have been a tenth quicker. Not to be sniffed at.

Edited by InductionRoar on Monday 17th September 13:27
What if you factor the downforce deficit on the Mercedes to the Red Bull?

anonymous-user

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54 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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Hamilton's qualifying in Singapore was a level above.

So was Verstappen's lap.

To be that close in a car which was basically destroyed by Vettel in a straight line proves he is the real deal when he is not making mistakes.

There was also talk that Verstappen had an issue which makes it even better.

I would say both laps by Hamilton and Verstappen were amazing but more so Verstappen IMO.



LeoSayer

7,305 posts

244 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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ELUSIVEJIM said:
Hamilton's qualifying in Singapore was a level above.

So was Verstappen's lap.

To be that close in a car which was basically destroyed by Vettel in a straight line proves he is the real deal when he is not making mistakes.

There was also talk that Verstappen had an issue which makes it even better.

I would say both laps by Hamilton and Verstappen were amazing but more so Verstappen IMO.
yes

Hamilton's lap was 7/10ths faster than Bottas
Verstappen's lap was 6/10ths faster then Ricciardo

What a margin

InductionRoar

2,014 posts

132 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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oyster said:
InductionRoar said:
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Put Max in the other Mercedes and you will see it every other week IMO. It was said on the C4 coverage that "somebody" had calculated that if you factor in the power deficit the Red Bull suffers to the Mercedes Max's lap would have been a tenth quicker. Not to be sniffed at.

Edited by InductionRoar on Monday 17th September 13:27
What if you factor the downforce deficit on the Mercedes to the Red Bull?
I don't know. I didn't produce the figures, I merely repeated them on a forum in the interest of discussion.

Hungrymc

6,662 posts

137 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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swisstoni said:
Perhaps Ferrari's modelling had predicted they could have achieved a faster lap than Hamilton if they had got it all together. I believe them actually as I maintain that the Fezzer is a monster if it is given the chance.
I think Ferrari's pace has come at the expense of making the car a bit of a 'diva'. Hard to set up and narrower windows with tyres etc. So when they get it right, its wonderfully quick but they cant get it there too often (and its vulnerable to changes in conditions etc). Whereas, a lot of Merc's development has been to understand the car and ultimately make it more consistent and predictable.

Could be wrong, but that's what I think I've been seeing.

anonymous-user

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54 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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LeoSayer said:
yes

Hamilton's lap was 7/10ths faster than Bottas
Verstappen's lap was 6/10ths faster then Ricciardo

What a margin
To be 100% correct Hamilton was 6.87/10ths faster than Bottas. Trying to help Bottas here biggrin

Verstappen was 6.62/10ths faster than Ricciardo in a car that was supposed to be having issues.

Very close figures between both sets of drivers in the two different teams.

But Vettel was only 1.66/10ths faster than Kimi.

Vettel must be having nightmare about Charles Leclerc biggrin

LDN

8,911 posts

203 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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ELUSIVEJIM said:
LeoSayer said:
yes

Hamilton's lap was 7/10ths faster than Bottas
Verstappen's lap was 6/10ths faster then Ricciardo

What a margin
To be 100% correct Hamilton was 6.87/10ths faster than Bottas. Trying to help Bottas here biggrin

Verstappen was 6.62/10ths faster than Ricciardo in a car that was supposed to be having issues.

Very close figures between both sets of drivers in the two different teams.

But Vettel was only 1.66/10ths faster than Kimi.

Vettel must be having nightmare about Charles Leclerc biggrin
I honestly think Leclerc is going to be dominant from the off; over Vettel. Ferrari have made the right move signing that lad. I think Vettel is in for a rude awakeneing.

Polite M135 driver

1,853 posts

84 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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ELUSIVEJIM said:
LeoSayer said:
yes

Hamilton's lap was 7/10ths faster than Bottas
Verstappen's lap was 6/10ths faster then Ricciardo

What a margin
To be 100% correct Hamilton was 6.87/10ths faster than Bottas. Trying to help Bottas here biggrin

Verstappen was 6.62/10ths faster than Ricciardo in a car that was supposed to be having issues.

Very close figures between both sets of drivers in the two different teams.

But Vettel was only 1.66/10ths faster than Kimi.

Vettel must be having nightmare about Charles Leclerc biggrin
bloody hell, I've never seen decimal fractions before
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