Lewis Hamilton

[Deesee]

cb1965 said:

Deesee said:

I’ll start with 94.

• Illegal fuel filter (of which a team mates car went up in flames while refulling).
• Traction control (option 13)
• Driving while under black flag which led to a 2 race ban, which was overturned following death threats to Hill
• Plank gate

• Then after hitting the wall, rejoined the track to hit Hill, gaining his first grubby WDC

Yes I was giving you 1994 as that is what you were discussing, which others?

BTW the 2 race ban was not overturned following death threats to Hill, not sure what media you follow, but that is nonsense.

1995 illegal fuel, all points stripped then re instated.

Why was the 2 race ban for ignoring black flags overturned then? 24 yrs ago so not fresh in the mind as such for me!

[37chevy]

Ferrari flexible wings, illegal barge boards, special tyres, team orders

[anonymous-user]

Oh god, not again!

[anonymous-user]

37chevy said:

I had no idea ELUSIVEJIM had such good taste in tattoos

That was some night at the end of 2016.

This is my other arm

[37chevy]

ELUSIVEJIM said:

That was some night at the end of 2016.

This is my other arm

hahaha brilliant. well at least depending on which driver youre into, you can switch hands ;-p

[anonymous-user]

37chevy said:

hahaha brilliant. well at least depending on which driver youre into, you can switch hands ;-p

Can you imagine how long something like this must take?

[Bo_apex]

LDN said:

Bo_apex said:

sparta6 said:

37chevy said:

Teddy Lop said:

what form will that trophy take, a novelty fuel filter? Option 13 button?

My guess is a turd in a bowl. Schumi always had a number 2, right?

Very good.
But his name wasn't Bottas

Or Heiki

Or Alonso

Note that none of the above were contracted number 2’s.

That’s the difference.

I never had access to Schumacher's contract, so cannot comment either way

[Bo_apex]

a "Number 2" who does not hide behind corporate speak

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnjF_gJ_QbQ

[Bo_apex]

Deesee said:

cb1965 said:

Deesee said:

Teddy Lop said:

sparta6 said:

Very nice.

That portrait of Fangio with tin helmet and goggles is a stark reminder of the incredible danger he faced !

MS 7 xWDC Trophy next...

what form will that trophy take, a novelty fuel filter? Option 13 button?

Crocodile tears from schmi (check the grin on 27 seconds).

https://mobile.twitter.com/F1/status/1062440597955...

So many of his championships should have a *

Which ones exactly and why?

• Then after hitting the wall, rejoined the track to hit Hill, gaining his first grubby WDC

If Hill had been smart he would not have rushed for the gap. He could have waited.

It's the sort of thing Max does now

[Deesee]

Bo_apex said:

Deesee said:

cb1965 said:

Deesee said:

Teddy Lop said:

sparta6 said:

Very nice.

That portrait of Fangio with tin helmet and goggles is a stark reminder of the incredible danger he faced !

MS 7 xWDC Trophy next...

what form will that trophy take, a novelty fuel filter? Option 13 button?

Crocodile tears from schmi (check the grin on 27 seconds).

https://mobile.twitter.com/F1/status/1062440597955...

So many of his championships should have a *

Which ones exactly and why?

• Then after hitting the wall, rejoined the track to hit Hill, gaining his first grubby WDC

If Hill had been smart he would not have rushed for the gap. He could have waited.

It's the sort of thing Max does now

True, but hill would not have known MS had hit a wall, no GPS tracking with team support back then. Would have just thought he was slow.

[sparta6]

Deesee said:

Bo_apex said:

Deesee said:

cb1965 said:

Deesee said:

Teddy Lop said:

sparta6 said:

Very nice.

That portrait of Fangio with tin helmet and goggles is a stark reminder of the incredible danger he faced !

MS 7 xWDC Trophy next...

what form will that trophy take, a novelty fuel filter? Option 13 button?

Crocodile tears from schmi (check the grin on 27 seconds).

https://mobile.twitter.com/F1/status/1062440597955...

So many of his championships should have a *

Which ones exactly and why?

• Then after hitting the wall, rejoined the track to hit Hill, gaining his first grubby WDC

If Hill had been smart he would not have rushed for the gap. He could have waited.

It's the sort of thing Max does now

True, but hill would not have known MS had hit a wall, no GPS tracking with team support back then. Would have just thought he was slow.

Sure.
Although MS going slow was highly unusual.
Hill could have used better judgement IMHO

[glazbagun]

sparta6 said:

Sure.
Although MS going slow was highly unusual.
Hill could have used better judgement IMHO

I'm sure Hill has said that from the car it felt like he'd went for a shrinking gap and he blamed himself (hence his initial "we gave him a good run for his money" interview), once he'd seen the footage he changed his mind entirely.

[anonymous-user]

Deesee said:

True, but hill would not have known MS had hit a wall, no GPS tracking with team support back then. Would have just thought he was slow.

Perhaps GPS tracking and team support should be banned.

Let the drivers second guess.

But safety would be compromised.

[E34-3.2]

Fascinating to read the comments about people defending Schumacher or Senna for deliberately cheating or driving in another driver then criticising Hamilton if he says something like he doesn't like vanilla ice cream...

[LDN]

E34-3.2 said:

Fascinating to read the comments about people defending Schumacher or Senna for deliberately cheating or driving in another driver then criticising Hamilton if he says something like he doesn't like vanilla ice cream...

[Deesee]

ELUSIVEJIM said:

Deesee said:

True, but hill would not have known MS had hit a wall, no GPS tracking with team support back then. Would have just thought he was slow.

Perhaps GPS tracking and team support should be banned.

Let the drivers second guess.

But safety would be compromised.

I think this is where a 20/25 lap pre quali (scrub p3) sprint race could come in. Back to basics...

[Deesee]

LDN said:

E34-3.2 said:

Fascinating to read the comments about people defending Schumacher or Senna for deliberately cheating or driving in another driver then criticising Hamilton if he says something like he doesn't like vanilla ice cream...

Imagine LH getting banned from the WDC or putting a rival in the gravel on a start! Internet Meltdown!

[anonymous-user]

Deesee said:

Imagine LH getting banned from the WDC or putting a rival in the gravel on a start! Internet Meltdown!

I very much doubt Hamilton or any driver would have put up with what went on with Jean-Marie Balestre.

Senna was wrong to take Prost out as was Prost taking Senna out.

Schumacher had a will to win which he would, unfortunately, take to the extremes on a number of occasions.

But some incidents were not his fault IMO.

Others clearly were.

[LDN]

Deesee said:

LDN said:

E34-3.2 said:

Fascinating to read the comments about people defending Schumacher or Senna for deliberately cheating or driving in another driver then criticising Hamilton if he says something like he doesn't like vanilla ice cream...

Imagine LH getting banned from the WDC or putting a rival in the gravel on a start! Internet Meltdown!

There’d not be enough global bandwidth to cope!! The internet would freeze and as a result, global banking systems would faulter; medical records lost; military exercises, personnel and equipment would go haywire; it would be the end of civilisation as we know it! And that’s just from the three or four anti-Hamilton posters here on PistonHeads

[StevieBee]

LDN said:

There’d not be enough global bandwidth to cope!! The internet would freeze and as a result, global banking systems would faulter; medical records lost; military exercises, personnel and equipment would go haywire; it would be the end of civilisation as we know it! And that’s just from the three or four anti-Hamilton posters here on PistonHeads

Had the internet been around in Senna's day, it would certainly have broken. Instead, all we had was the letters page in Autosport which I recall were regularly populated with sternly-worded calls for life-time bans and such like.

This was in a time when words like 'outrageous' and 'abominable' were all the rage. Not the 'tt', 'tosser' and 'knob wipes' we have to today.