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I think simply put this shows what is under the surface, he dropped it out, meaning he has probably done so before. And possibly believes this to be tru in his eyes.
No one doubts his achievements, but he was onto a winner very early in his life, either through talent or his colour or a mixture of those things, you can say what you like but the fact he is black opened doors for him in many ways.
But, he has got where he has because he is the best at what he does right now. He made a clever career move while wasting away at McLaren. So the chances he got have been taken perfectly
I do not take to him personally, I think he has an odd sense of what he needs to be or wants to be, and feel he has a mask for each occasion, and every now and then the mask slips as it did here.
I have lived in Stevenage, it is a perfectly fine place, not attractive but tell me a town in the SE that is, but it pretends to be nothing, it is unpretentious, low key new town that is a bit crumbly but offers everything anyone would need to live in a place like that, loads of green space (tell me other SE towns like this now) excellent access to the entire town without paths and cycleways, it is truly modern in some senses compared to other towns.
Crime is not that bad there despite the reputation, it has its crap areas but so do other lofty places nearby like Berkhamsted or Harpenden or St Albans, all of which are less than pleasant on nights out and far smaller than Stevenage
No one doubts his achievements, but he was onto a winner very early in his life, either through talent or his colour or a mixture of those things, you can say what you like but the fact he is black opened doors for him in many ways.
But, he has got where he has because he is the best at what he does right now. He made a clever career move while wasting away at McLaren. So the chances he got have been taken perfectly
I do not take to him personally, I think he has an odd sense of what he needs to be or wants to be, and feel he has a mask for each occasion, and every now and then the mask slips as it did here.
I have lived in Stevenage, it is a perfectly fine place, not attractive but tell me a town in the SE that is, but it pretends to be nothing, it is unpretentious, low key new town that is a bit crumbly but offers everything anyone would need to live in a place like that, loads of green space (tell me other SE towns like this now) excellent access to the entire town without paths and cycleways, it is truly modern in some senses compared to other towns.
Crime is not that bad there despite the reputation, it has its crap areas but so do other lofty places nearby like Berkhamsted or Harpenden or St Albans, all of which are less than pleasant on nights out and far smaller than Stevenage
37chevy said:
Kraken said:
I'm well aware of what he does and doesn't do for charity. I've attended many charity racing events and met many different F1 and other drivers. Still to meet Hamilton though...
He doesn't do anything that the majority of other celebrities and sports stars do but the others don't go around pretending they've come from some terribly deprived background.
It's not just in the US that his fans have selective reasoning. I've lost count of the number of people over here who I've talked to who have said his dad was really poor. I've yet to meet a poor person who run theirs own IT consultancy business...
1) if you look at the charity stuff he does it tends to be in Africa/ india/ caribean countries.....so unless youre there in your tux with other f1 drivers I guess you wont meet himHe doesn't do anything that the majority of other celebrities and sports stars do but the others don't go around pretending they've come from some terribly deprived background.
It's not just in the US that his fans have selective reasoning. I've lost count of the number of people over here who I've talked to who have said his dad was really poor. I've yet to meet a poor person who run theirs own IT consultancy business...
Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 18th December 10:21
2) I beg to differ, many stars including DiCaprio have talked about their deprived childhood...
3) his dad was poor, held 4 jobs to fund racing
again, you seem to be blinkered, not wanting to look or do research. just because you don't see something, doesn't mean it doesn't exist
so tell me again why you think he leaves much to be desired as a human being. He works with multiple charities, is a team player, is constantly complimenting the employees that make what he does possible...what is it that makes him such a terrible human?
Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 18th December 10:55
zetec said:
I think sometimes it’s down to the company he keeps. For example, Lance Stroll shows a picture of the house he grew up in (most probably the size of Stevenage) and Lewis would compare his much more humble upbringing. Stevenage is not a slum but comparing it to chez Stroll one could use the word slum?
Not really. Slum: a squalid and overcrowded urban street or district inhabited by very poor people.
I just think he’s not very bright. And I say that as a Hamilton fan - I like him. I think he’s just a bit David beckham etc not the sharpest tool in the box. He has said a number of things that are a bit off yet I really don’t think he has any malice in him at all. Eg he mixed up something in the back room after a race recently I noticed. And his pic of a pig in a dumpster etc proving meat is murder. It just shows he’s not too bright
paulguitar said:
That's not where he started out. They were far from well off and Anthony had four jobs at one point to try to support Lewis's early karting career.
It's all easy info to find if you are interested.
He certainly wasn't so well off that he didn't need to pick up second hand karts from other people. I know this for a fact as Anthony and Lewis turned up at my house one day to buy one of ours when we retired from the sport. I have a book here at home with a picture in it of a young Lewis sitting in the thing - a black All Kart.It's all easy info to find if you are interested.
CoolHands said:
I just think he’s not very bright. And I say that as a Hamilton fan - I like him. I think he’s just a bit David beckham etc not the sharpest tool in the box. He has said a number of things that are a bit off yet I really don’t think he has any malice in him at all. Eg he mixed up something in the back room after a race recently I noticed. And his pic of a pig in a dumpster etc proving meat is murder. It just shows he’s not too bright
Not too bright? Handling his own affairs, multiple business interests, media, movie, music, charity work, all whilst handing the grid their arse, week in week out. You’d have to be brighter than most; I’d hazard most on this thread would have no chance at juggling it all. Remember that his understanding of the cars he drives and influence over their evolution is something else.Your post has a whif of wishful thinking. Happens all of the time; not a rare thing at all, so you’re in good company. As for showing a pig in a dumpster to support his assertion; that of a vegan lifestyle being a more ethical choice; what’s not right or correct about that?
Davos123 said:
chunder27 said:
you can say what you like but the fact he is black opened doors for him in many ways.
bks. Being an exceptionally talented in a go-kart from a young age is what opened doors for him. With Lance Stroll's talent he'd be a nobody.CoolHands said:
I just think he’s not very bright.
“the greatest trick that Lewis Hamilton ever pulled, was convincing the world that he wasn’t smart”.https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/willthef1journo.wor...
Deesee said:
“the greatest trick that Lewis Hamilton ever pulled, was convincing the world that he wasn’t smart”.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/willthef1journo.wor...
I love that (and it's counterpart) article.https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/willthef1journo.wor...
LaurasOtherHalf said:
Deesee said:
“the greatest trick that Lewis Hamilton ever pulled, was convincing the world that he wasn’t smart”.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/willthef1journo.wor...
I love that (and it's counterpart) article.https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/willthef1journo.wor...
Because was does a pig in a dumpster have to do with the rearing of meat for human consumption?
I know he’s exceptionally bright and gifted at racing and all things related. That doesn’t mean he’s the brightest with language. He often chooses the wrong words / sayings etc ie I don’t think he would have meant to have said slums, but that’s what came out.
I know he’s exceptionally bright and gifted at racing and all things related. That doesn’t mean he’s the brightest with language. He often chooses the wrong words / sayings etc ie I don’t think he would have meant to have said slums, but that’s what came out.
CoolHands said:
Because was does a pig in a dumpster have to do with the rearing of meat for human consumption?
I know he’s exceptionally bright and gifted at racing and all things related. That doesn’t mean he’s the brightest with language. He often chooses the wrong words / sayings etc ie I don’t think he would have meant to have said slums, but that’s what came out.
It's not that he isn't bright, it's that he's had a very different and focused childhood compared to many "normal" people. Like many footballers, his entire childhood was centred around his sport. He probably didn't have much exposure to a life beyond it I know he’s exceptionally bright and gifted at racing and all things related. That doesn’t mean he’s the brightest with language. He often chooses the wrong words / sayings etc ie I don’t think he would have meant to have said slums, but that’s what came out.
Deesee said:
“the greatest trick that Lewis Hamilton ever pulled, was convincing the world that he wasn’t smart”.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/willthef1journo.wor...
Agreed well balanced article and if people read on......https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/willthef1journo.wor...
“When I sat down to interview him last in a one-on-one situation in Hockenheim, his first question was not for me, my crew, what we were filming or why… it was for Sophie, my daughter; how she was doing, how old she was now, how school was going and his own desire for a family one day.
That’s the man he is. Thoughtful. Sincere. Genuine.
Those who choose to paint a picture of an artificial or conceited character do not see this side of Lewis Hamilton. They don’t see him out the front of the garage on pitlane walkabout, talking and actually listening to his fans. When he turned up in New York for a two minute appearance on the Today Show, he arrived two hours early and spent every spare moment engaged with his fans. Just as he had done that GP2 weekend at Silverstone.”
CoolHands said:
Because was does a pig in a dumpster have to do with the rearing of meat for human consumption?
I know he’s exceptionally bright and gifted at racing and all things related. That doesn’t mean he’s the brightest with language. He often chooses the wrong words / sayings etc ie I don’t think he would have meant to have said slums, but that’s what came out.
Because the pig in a dumpster was a byproduct of the slaughter industry maybe? I’ve seen hundreds of farms the world over and many have pretty shocking animal welfare standards; with many animals disposed of for a myriad of reasons, in disgusting ways. That includes the UK also. I know he’s exceptionally bright and gifted at racing and all things related. That doesn’t mean he’s the brightest with language. He often chooses the wrong words / sayings etc ie I don’t think he would have meant to have said slums, but that’s what came out.
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