Lewis Hamilton

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sparta6

1,330 posts

45 months

Wednesday 4th September
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TheDeuce said:
paua said:
You people are all in the WRONG thread, this one is an F1 thread.
Bugger off
I do agree, despite having polluted this (already slightly polluted) thread myself.

On the other hand, people with strange ideas appear to have broken through the PH town walls and should be dealt with before this gets out of hand wink

I wouldn't worry too much. The next retort will be a demand that their opinions are respected, in spite of ignoring the logic or opposing viewpoints. That will pretty much nullify the debate and we can get back to discussing LH and whatever new ways people think he's not the best driver - despite repeatedly beating the other drivers in a competition specifically designed to work out who the best driver is smile
F1 is also specifically designed to work out who the best team is, and which team has the best car.

vdn

6,653 posts

148 months

Wednesday 4th September
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That’s probably due to CLC being born and bred into that world. Seems a nice lad and I think he’s doing a sterling job.

TheDeuce

2,797 posts

11 months

Wednesday 4th September
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768 said:
I think he's matured gradually over the years and become more likeable as a result. These guys have quite odd lives and I think it can take a while to find their own feet in a competitive environment. Max is following a similar path, Leclerc seems to have turned up with the maturity at the start of his career you'd normally expect from someone at the end of theirs.
Poor guy's had to grow up - been a lot of loss in his life and formative stages of his career. A lot of F1 related loss specifically - and a few days ago Hubert, who he had his first ever race against as kids. However, sad as it all has been, the end result is remarkably mature human with a good manner about him and all the signs of an excellent driver and future WDC contender - specifically in contention with Max, which is a future saga I look forward too very much smile

Poppiecock

755 posts

3 months

Wednesday 4th September
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sparta6 said:
F1 is also specifically designed to work out who the best team is, and which team has the best car.
Exactly, the Drivers' Championship is almost a side-show for the main prize - which is why Red Bull have changed drivers mid-season.

TheDeuce

2,797 posts

11 months

Wednesday 4th September
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sparta6 said:
TheDeuce said:
paua said:
You people are all in the WRONG thread, this one is an F1 thread.
Bugger off
I do agree, despite having polluted this (already slightly polluted) thread myself.

On the other hand, people with strange ideas appear to have broken through the PH town walls and should be dealt with before this gets out of hand wink

I wouldn't worry too much. The next retort will be a demand that their opinions are respected, in spite of ignoring the logic or opposing viewpoints. That will pretty much nullify the debate and we can get back to discussing LH and whatever new ways people think he's not the best driver - despite repeatedly beating the other drivers in a competition specifically designed to work out who the best driver is smile
F1 is also specifically designed to work out who the best team is, and which team has the best car.
True. In Lewis's case he found the best team/car due to being the best driver in the very early stages of his career smile

That's not always true, sometimes blind luck plays it's part too. But in Lewis's case, Lauda identified him as the driver for Mercedes when he and Toto agreed to move forwards together with Mercedes in F1. It was a direct result of the passion, skill and manner Lewis had demonstrated up to that point. They were setting up a dream team with an almost limitless budget to conquer the sport as never before, and they chose Lewis to deliver the goods.

Edited by TheDeuce on Wednesday 4th September 11:32

ukaskew

5,204 posts

166 months

Wednesday 4th September
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This thread is an infinite, repeating loop (occasionally substitute diet for travel arrangements or dress sense, but keep a healthy dose of 'in the best car's comments).


glazbagun

9,855 posts

142 months

Wednesday 4th September
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OFORBES said:
Back on topic. Not sure if its been mentioned previously in this thread, but has anyone else noticed a real difference in LH this season in interviews?

He seems so much more relaxed, personable, open and honest than he has done in all his previous years in F1..

Its made me warm to him more than I have before, its quite refreshing to see.
When C4 took over F1 Steve Jones had a great 1v1 interview with Lewis. It was great seeing Jones, who was criticized for lack of F1 knowledge, just focus on day to day generalities and seeing Lewis open up and just be a normal person rather than giving an "official" answer to an inane question about the sport.

Andy S15

379 posts

72 months

Wednesday 4th September
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OFORBES said:
Back on topic. Not sure if its been mentioned previously in this thread, but has anyone else noticed a real difference in LH this season in interviews?

He seems so much more relaxed, personable, open and honest than he has done in all his previous years in F1..

Its made me warm to him more than I have before, its quite refreshing to see.
Probably because he's never had a lead like this at this stage of the season before? I'd be pretty relaxed if I had 2 retirements in hand.

OFORBES

225 posts

45 months

Wednesday 4th September
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Andy S15 said:
OFORBES said:
Back on topic. Not sure if its been mentioned previously in this thread, but has anyone else noticed a real difference in LH this season in interviews?

He seems so much more relaxed, personable, open and honest than he has done in all his previous years in F1..

Its made me warm to him more than I have before, its quite refreshing to see.
Probably because he's never had a lead like this at this stage of the season before? I'd be pretty relaxed if I had 2 retirements in hand.
I've noticed a difference in his interviews since the beginning of the season, but I agree, id be pretty comfortable with a two retirements in hand lead too!

sparta6

1,330 posts

45 months

Wednesday 4th September
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TheDeuce said:
sparta6 said:
TheDeuce said:
paua said:
You people are all in the WRONG thread, this one is an F1 thread.
Bugger off
I do agree, despite having polluted this (already slightly polluted) thread myself.

On the other hand, people with strange ideas appear to have broken through the PH town walls and should be dealt with before this gets out of hand wink

I wouldn't worry too much. The next retort will be a demand that their opinions are respected, in spite of ignoring the logic or opposing viewpoints. That will pretty much nullify the debate and we can get back to discussing LH and whatever new ways people think he's not the best driver - despite repeatedly beating the other drivers in a competition specifically designed to work out who the best driver is smile
F1 is also specifically designed to work out who the best team is, and which team has the best car.
True. In Lewis's case he found the best team/car due to being the best driver in the very early stages of his career smile

That's not always true, sometimes blind luck plays it's part too. But in Lewis's case, Lauda identified him as the driver for Mercedes when he and Toto agreed to move forwards together with Mercedes in F1. It was a direct result of the passion, skill and manner Lewis had demonstrated up to that point. They were setting up a dream team with an almost limitless budget to conquer the sport as never before, and they chose Lewis to deliver the goods.

Edited by TheDeuce on Wednesday 4th September 11:32
Errmm, Lewis wasn't exactly setting the world alight in the tier 2 McLaren from 2009.

However, it was the right decision for Mercedes to sign Lewis into the dominant car.The marketing has worked extremely well for them.

Good call from Lauda.

Jasandjules

63,026 posts

174 months

Wednesday 4th September
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slipstream 1985 said:
paua said:
You people are all in the WRONG thread, this one is an F1 thread.
Veggie-Burger off
Fixed that for you smile
EFFA..


Deesee

2,756 posts

28 months

Wednesday 4th September
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sparta6 said:
Errmm, Lewis wasn't exactly setting the world alight in the tier 2 McLaren from 2009.
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2 wins 5 podiums and 4 poles, (Jenson managed 9 podiums and won the WDC) , in what was 3/4th best car on the grid in 2009.


sparta6

1,330 posts

45 months

Wednesday 4th September
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Deesee said:
sparta6 said:
Errmm, Lewis wasn't exactly setting the world alight in the tier 2 McLaren from 2009.
.

2 wins 5 podiums and 4 poles, (Jenson managed 9 podiums and won the WDC) , in what was 3/4th best car on the grid in 2009.
Jenson did well smile

Poppiecock

755 posts

3 months

Wednesday 4th September
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sparta6 said:
Jenson did well smile
The Brawn was only best car for half the season.

The Red Bull was quick on a good day, but distinctly slipping into mid-field on bad days.

So whilst it's possible to say that the McLaren was 3rd or 4th best car in 2009, that really doesn't tell the story of the season and relative performance at all.

It was generally thought that Red Bull had the best car come the last third of the season, with McLaren within a whisker.

vdn

6,653 posts

148 months

Wednesday 4th September
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sparta6 said:
Errmm, Lewis wasn't exactly setting the world alight in the tier 2 McLaren from 2009.

However, it was the right decision for Mercedes to sign Lewis into the dominant car.The marketing has worked extremely well for them.

Good call from Lauda.
Yes, Lauda; the greatest marketing exec ever. Lucky ol’ Mercedes Petronas ey!? oh wait!

Fool.

rolleyes

Poppiecock

755 posts

3 months

Wednesday 4th September
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Deesee said:
Right...because Rubens car did nothing in the back end of the season... only 2 victory’s...

McLaren/Ferrari (1 point difference in WCC points). For 3/4th
He shouldn't have won the European GP - that was down to a McLaren mistake in the pits - Monza was a strange one, with Red Bull having one of their weird days where it just didn't come together for them.

Hungary onwards were incredibly random, no one team dominated the middle third of the season, until Red Bull managed to get everything to work and hang together for the last third.

The McLaren team made some astonishing gains mid-season, turning a complete dog of a car into one of the top contenders.

Mr Tidy

9,131 posts

72 months

Thursday 5th September
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sparta6 said:
Deesee said:
sparta6 said:
Errmm, Lewis wasn't exactly setting the world alight in the tier 2 McLaren from 2009.
.

2 wins 5 podiums and 4 poles, (Jenson managed 9 podiums and won the WDC) , in what was 3/4th best car on the grid in 2009.
Jenson did well smile
For one season anyway - a bit like Nico Rosberg, a one hit wonder!

Still they both have a Championship under their belt.

Whereas Lewis has won multiple titles - so maybe he is a bit more special than them! rolleyes

HighwayStar

2,503 posts

89 months

Thursday 5th September
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Mr Tidy said:
sparta6 said:
Deesee said:
sparta6 said:
Errmm, Lewis wasn't exactly setting the world alight in the tier 2 McLaren from 2009.
.

2 wins 5 podiums and 4 poles, (Jenson managed 9 podiums and won the WDC) , in what was 3/4th best car on the grid in 2009.
Jenson did well smile
For one season anyway - a bit like Nico Rosberg, a one hit wonder!

Still they both have a Championship under their belt.

Whereas Lewis has won multiple titles - so maybe he is a bit more special than them! rolleyes
Never will be, not in Sparta’s mind. wink

slipstream 1985

6,535 posts

124 months

Thursday 5th September
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Poppiecock said:
Deesee said:
Right...because Rubens car did nothing in the back end of the season... only 2 victory’s...

McLaren/Ferrari (1 point difference in WCC points). For 3/4th
He shouldn't have won the European GP - that was down to a McLaren mistake in the pits - Monza was a strange one, with Red Bull having one of their weird days where it just didn't come together for them.

Hungary onwards were incredibly random, no one team dominated the middle third of the season, until Red Bull managed to get everything to work and hang together for the last third.

The McLaren team made some astonishing gains mid-season, turning a complete dog of a car into one of the top contenders.
Everyone forgets that the 2008 season mclaren and ferrari kept developing their cars despite rule changes for 2009. So every other team gave up early or earlier to focus on the new regulations and mclaren and ferrari were in an arms race developing "old tech"

BlackPrince

1,201 posts

114 months

Tuesday 10th September
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Poppiecock said:
The irony here is that vegans / vegetarians often talk about clean eating. Quorn is must less 'clean' than a minced beef / lamb / pork / chicken / turkey. It's full of all kinds of weird additives in order to make it mimic meat.
Quorn isn't "healthy" by any means (that's such a nebulous term I hate using it but anyway), but meat is a defined carcinogen by WHO, and has been implicated in numerous GI conditions.

"Chemicals" and "additives" isn't a bad word btw.

I'm vegetarian because I hate the taste of meat, I still eat meat substitutes occasionally when I feel like it, and am only able to do so because there is a distinct taste difference from meat. That said, I rarely eat meat substitutes because they just don't feel very healthy in my body, and its more of an occasional indulgence than anything.

A vegan or vegetarian who is eating a kilo of vegan burgers, and mock turkey or whatever everyday will have the same issues with hypertension, obesity, etc., as a meat eater eating a kilo of steak each day. Though presumably the former will be less prone to colon cancer, diverticulosis etc (though these conditions would be the least of their worries compared with the more common aforementioned diseases such as hypertn, etc)