Lewis Hamilton
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JayK12 said:
37chevy said:
JayK12 said:
Agreed, lets debate food in an F1 drivers thread ffs.
Lewis didn't seem very happy in the press conference.
Really? Thought he seemed pretty chilled tbhLewis didn't seem very happy in the press conference.
I'm watching it now... Lewis is a bit flat but not moody. Maybe he's reflecting on the days events, lack of consistency with penalties and how the rules of engagement have now clearly changed. Who knows but seriously, I don't see anything to make something out his demeanour.
HighwayStar said:
JayK12 said:
37chevy said:
JayK12 said:
Agreed, lets debate food in an F1 drivers thread ffs.
Lewis didn't seem very happy in the press conference.
Really? Thought he seemed pretty chilled tbhLewis didn't seem very happy in the press conference.
I'm watching it now... Lewis is a bit flat but not moody. Maybe he's reflecting on the days events, lack of consistency with penalties and how the rules of engagement have now clearly changed. Who knows but seriously, I don't see anything to make something out his demeanour.
sparta6 said:
HighwayStar said:
JayK12 said:
37chevy said:
JayK12 said:
Agreed, lets debate food in an F1 drivers thread ffs.
Lewis didn't seem very happy in the press conference.
Really? Thought he seemed pretty chilled tbhLewis didn't seem very happy in the press conference.
I'm watching it now... Lewis is a bit flat but not moody. Maybe he's reflecting on the days events, lack of consistency with penalties and how the rules of engagement have now clearly changed. Who knows but seriously, I don't see anything to make something out his demeanour.
Easy there fella, only you would look at that result and come up with that comment.
Seeing Ferrari were expected to win that race Lewis did very well to be as close as he was to CLCs gearbox..
Remember he didn't need to be. He could've gone into Prost mode and cruised around for an easy 3rd, get the points in the bag for the title and leave Bottas to take it to Leclerc.
I'll agree with you Charles is evolving, Max... you've seen his last 2 races right?
And for a driver who has reached his personal peak, Vettel appears to be that guy
I didn't think he looked troubled. He wasn't exactly excited but that really isn't unexpected IMO for a guy who's won more than 70 F1 races, finished a workmanlike 3rd in this one and not because of a car problem, track problem or anything else to wind him up, and got useful points towards his championship. Nothing there to get excited about, neither in a positive nor negative way.
It was probably, in his world, an unexceptional day at work.
As for peaking, I'm sure he's not reminiscing on that point but I do agree with Sparta at least on the expectation that I can't see him getting any better in the future than he is now. He's at the top of his career, he's making good choices in the car, he's reliably avoiding non-finishes and making few mistakes. He's maximising his points for the championship. The only way for him to improve now would be to get even faster. If he manages to get quicker at his age and at this stage of his career, well for me that would be an incredible achievement.
It may happen - indeed it does almost seem like he has got faster in the last couple of years - but I doubt it. I think he's at his peak now.
Max may get faster but he will definitely get more reliable. Eventually. He may never reach Prost or Hamilton levels but he's got speed to compensate.
Leclerc also has speed and is making a lot of mistakes, common for a relatively inexperienced driver, though I must say that Hamilton's consistency in his first year was a standout feature. Leclerc has a taste for winning now. He knows he can do it. Experience also will make him more reliable and consistent. At the moment he's at the maximum attack all the time and has gotten away with it at Monza but it will, and has, cost him on other occasions.
Of those two, Max still stands out for me as the next generation's driver to beat, and Leclerc looks like he has enough to keep Max honest at least and stop him running away with it for the next 15 years.
It was probably, in his world, an unexceptional day at work.
As for peaking, I'm sure he's not reminiscing on that point but I do agree with Sparta at least on the expectation that I can't see him getting any better in the future than he is now. He's at the top of his career, he's making good choices in the car, he's reliably avoiding non-finishes and making few mistakes. He's maximising his points for the championship. The only way for him to improve now would be to get even faster. If he manages to get quicker at his age and at this stage of his career, well for me that would be an incredible achievement.
It may happen - indeed it does almost seem like he has got faster in the last couple of years - but I doubt it. I think he's at his peak now.
Max may get faster but he will definitely get more reliable. Eventually. He may never reach Prost or Hamilton levels but he's got speed to compensate.
Leclerc also has speed and is making a lot of mistakes, common for a relatively inexperienced driver, though I must say that Hamilton's consistency in his first year was a standout feature. Leclerc has a taste for winning now. He knows he can do it. Experience also will make him more reliable and consistent. At the moment he's at the maximum attack all the time and has gotten away with it at Monza but it will, and has, cost him on other occasions.
Of those two, Max still stands out for me as the next generation's driver to beat, and Leclerc looks like he has enough to keep Max honest at least and stop him running away with it for the next 15 years.
HighwayStar said:
sparta6 said:
HighwayStar said:
JayK12 said:
37chevy said:
JayK12 said:
Agreed, lets debate food in an F1 drivers thread ffs.
Lewis didn't seem very happy in the press conference.
Really? Thought he seemed pretty chilled tbhLewis didn't seem very happy in the press conference.
I'm watching it now... Lewis is a bit flat but not moody. Maybe he's reflecting on the days events, lack of consistency with penalties and how the rules of engagement have now clearly changed. Who knows but seriously, I don't see anything to make something out his demeanour.
And for a driver who has reached his personal peak, Vettel appears to be that guy
What is happening to Lewis happens to every sportsman, and they all handle their realisation in different ways.
Nevertheless it's fair to conclude Lewis will walk to another WDC in the Mercedes
sparta6 said:
HighwayStar said:
sparta6 said:
HighwayStar said:
JayK12 said:
37chevy said:
JayK12 said:
Agreed, lets debate food in an F1 drivers thread ffs.
Lewis didn't seem very happy in the press conference.
Really? Thought he seemed pretty chilled tbhLewis didn't seem very happy in the press conference.
I'm watching it now... Lewis is a bit flat but not moody. Maybe he's reflecting on the days events, lack of consistency with penalties and how the rules of engagement have now clearly changed. Who knows but seriously, I don't see anything to make something out his demeanour.
And for a driver who has reached his personal peak, Vettel appears to be that guy
What is happening to Lewis happens to every sportsman, and they all handle their realisation in different ways.
Nevertheless it's fair to conclude Lewis will walk to another WDC in the Mercedes
ELUSIVEJIM said:
So will the Hamilton fans now admit that Hamilton is the clear number one in the team?
Hes the lead driver in the championship. Allowing a driver chasing a podium on 8 lap fresher tyres to get out in front of his teammate just makes sense....saves him wasting time trying to pass Bottas and potentially costing the team points. If the roles were reversed, Mercedes would have done the same...and have, in the past37chevy said:
Hes the lead driver in the championship. Allowing a driver chasing a podium on 8 lap fresher tyres to get out in front of his teammate just makes sense....saves him wasting time trying to pass Bottas and potentially costing the team points. If the roles were reversed, Mercedes would have done the same...and have, in the past
I know you're a Hamilton fan but surely even you can't believe that statement you just made.37chevy said:
ELUSIVEJIM said:
So will the Hamilton fans now admit that Hamilton is the clear number one in the team?
Hes the lead driver in the championship. Allowing a driver chasing a podium on 8 lap fresher tyres to get out in front of his teammate just makes sense....saves him wasting time trying to pass Bottas and potentially costing the team points. If the roles were reversed, Mercedes would have done the same...and have, in the pastHe's not no. 1, they just give him a majority of the favourable decisions.
Ham is clearly number one, and Toto has said they will let them race but will take decisions where they have to.
That said, todays decision was more about keeping him ahead of Albon than Bottas I think. They were both 3-4 seconds a lap faster by the time Hamilton came in, hence they essentially asked Bottas to hold him up. I expect the decision was partly driven by then knowing they had f
ked his strategy. Had they brought him in on the same lap as Vettel, he would have won the race (probably).
That said, todays decision was more about keeping him ahead of Albon than Bottas I think. They were both 3-4 seconds a lap faster by the time Hamilton came in, hence they essentially asked Bottas to hold him up. I expect the decision was partly driven by then knowing they had f
ked his strategy. Had they brought him in on the same lap as Vettel, he would have won the race (probably).Poppiecock said:
they just give him a majority of the favourable decisions.
The driver ahead of his teammate usually gets the favourable decision. Lewis is usually ahead of his teammate.Any team would surely prioritise the guy leading the championship with a third of the season left?
I genuinely don't think he's the number 1 driver as such, if Bottas was leading the championship and in the same position Mercedes would have made that call for him today.
ELUSIVEJIM said:
So will the Hamilton fans now admit that Hamilton is the clear number one in the team?
Yep, makes sense.The constructors' championship, the one that pays the big bucks both in terms of prize money and your rate card for potential sponsors, must be sewn up by now, one would assume. You (as a constructor) are then left with the garnish of the World Drivers' Championship, to add that extra lustre to things.
Bo_apex said:
Bottas will not be allowed to win a WDC while Hamilton is at Mercedes.
bks.If Bottas gets ahead on points, by a significant margin, at the half way point; he won’t just be ‘allowed’, they’ll push for Bottas to be WDC.
Prove me wrong.
We’re not talking about Schumacher here...
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