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eccles

13,720 posts

221 months

Saturday 19th October 2019
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paulguitar said:
TarquinMX5 said:
his ability to drive, at which he's probably 'above average'
You are opening yourself up to a fair bit of ridicule posting something like that here where a lot of people are quite well informed about F1.
And you're opening up yourself to ridicule with a reply like that!rolleyes

paulguitar

23,104 posts

112 months

Saturday 19th October 2019
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eccles said:
And you're opening up yourself to ridicule with a reply like that!rolleyes
Why is that?



eccles

13,720 posts

221 months

Saturday 19th October 2019
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paulguitar said:
eccles said:
And you're opening up yourself to ridicule with a reply like that!rolleyes
Why is that?
You're coming across as a pompous stuck up arse with a reply like that when the whole tone of the reply you were having a go as was light hearted!

paulguitar

23,104 posts

112 months

Saturday 19th October 2019
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eccles said:
paulguitar said:
eccles said:
And you're opening up yourself to ridicule with a reply like that!rolleyes
Why is that?
You're coming across as a pompous stuck up arse with a reply like that when the whole tone of the reply you were having a go as was light hearted!
Wow, someone needs a hug!






vdn

8,905 posts

202 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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TarquinMX5 said:
I haven't read the numerous posts on this thread but it's rather amusing to see a person who earns (if that's the right word) quite a few pounds each year by driving a good car round and around a circuit (for what purpose? - it's hardly necessary for anything I can think of, other than providing leisure-viewing for a few people), travels by private jet, helicopter or large-engined car, trying to lecture others how to behave to 'save the planet'. No doubt his employers also saw the disconnect.

With the greatest of respect to his ability to drive, at which he's probably 'above average' (difficult to know for sure as he has access to better-than-average cars), it's a bit rich trying to tell others 'to save the planet'.

The problem with these people who fancy themselves as 'influencers' is that many of them often adopt a 'do as I say, not as I do' attitude. Reminds me of that group of people who call themselves politicians.

Am I right in thinking that this car-driver who says we should all go vegan has a financial interest in a vegan restaurant chain? Hmmmm.

Perhaps he should concentrate on driving.
rofl

PH never ceases to amaze, or deliver!

spunkytherabbit

442 posts

179 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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Oh Jesus christ. Can the opo or an admin please close this thread? It's turned into something from an Alan Partridge scene and people are just making themselves look silly.

mywifeshusband

594 posts

197 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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I'll start by saying I've not read the whole thread and this point may have been made already.

My opinion of Lewis would be much much higher if he proclaimed his conversion to Veganism was to stop animal cruelty rather that saving the planet.

But even then it wouldn't stop him being a pompous arse.

HTP99

22,441 posts

139 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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I was always (until recently) under the assumption that his veganism was purely for health and fitness reasons.

vdn

8,905 posts

202 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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anonymous said:
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hehe

You’ve no evidence to the contrary... so the whole discussion is null and void. You brought it up though; a reflection of your intelligence levels: “I assert x but cannot prove it; you assert y, and must prove it.”

You’re a generic thinker; a muppet some might say.

Graveworm

8,476 posts

70 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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anonymous said:
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Charities including environmental charities, political parties, lobbyists, the BMA, unions, government departments, safety groups, campaigns (like stop smoking, drinking, using drugs, obesity) etc etc. Plus, many of the changes he advocates are buying choices.

Edited by Graveworm on Sunday 20th October 12:14

stichill99

1,040 posts

180 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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Well I am about to sit down to my Sunday roast,, locally sourced and fed on lot's of carbon dioxide inhaling Scottish grassland. I have not watched a boring grand prix for years and wont feel guilty at all as I will have done much less harm to the environment than some overpaid spoilt brat that's tucking into his almond milk that has used 1000's of litres of water to grow and been flown half way round the world although not by private jet like Lewis!

glazbagun

14,256 posts

196 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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TBH I think all this nonsense is simply a function of our access to social media.

30 years ago you'd need to really be into your cause to become associated with it. If Mansell or Prost were vegetarians, environmentalists or religious you'd never know unless they mentioned it on TV or maybe if they put in a huge effort to drop it into every interview- seriously I don't know their positions on anything!

Wheras these days I know that Lando Norris likes milk, FFS!

So Lewis having an internet sigh about the world being a bit fked up is nothing loads of others don't do. But now we can all pile in with our opinions on his opinions without any sense of awareness that we are doing the exact same thing- venting our thoughts into a mobile phone for strangers to read.

E34-3.2

1,003 posts

78 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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Vergne is full of praise for Hamilton and his stand: https://www.planetf1.com/news/vergne-wants-hamilto...

768

13,599 posts

95 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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E34-3.2 said:
Vergne is full of praise for Hamilton and his stand: https://www.planetf1.com/news/vergne-wants-hamilto...
Ha. Like it, but I suspect Lewis won't take him up on his offer.

E34-3.2

1,003 posts

78 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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768 said:
Ha. Like it, but I suspect Lewis won't take him up on his offer.
Well, Lewis mentioned formula e not long ago. Why not?

KevinCamaroSS

11,553 posts

279 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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A number of you are showing that you do not really follow F1 and its 'characters'. Hamilton sold his private jet some time ago and travels with us plebs in order to cut his carbon footprint as much as possible.

768

13,599 posts

95 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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E34-3.2 said:
768 said:
Ha. Like it, but I suspect Lewis won't take him up on his offer.
Well, Lewis mentioned formula e not long ago. Why not?
Well, for now the money and glamour's in F1. And after his career ends there, I can't see the risk reward payoff working out. Or it being compatible with his music career...

Mr_Thyroid

1,995 posts

226 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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stichill99 said:
Well I am about to sit down to my Sunday roast,, locally sourced and fed on lot's of carbon dioxide inhaling Scottish grassland. I have not watched a boring grand prix for years and wont feel guilty at all as I will have done much less harm to the environment than some overpaid spoilt brat that's tucking into his almond milk that has used 1000's of litres of water to grow and been flown half way round the world although not by private jet like Lewis!
They do take all that into account when they calculate the environmental impact of food. Obviously you're right that British beef is much better than Brazilian beef for example but I think, on average, red meat protein produces around 30 times the greenhouse gasses as the same amount of vegetable protein.


vdn

8,905 posts

202 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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anonymous said:
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No, you’re claiming that social media posts don’t lead to lifestyle changes. With no evidence whatsoever.

“Thick as two short” springs to mind.

vdn

8,905 posts

202 months

Monday 21st October 2019
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anonymous said:
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rofl

Burden of proof ey? This isn’t CSI. But let’s be clear; people respond to Hamilton’s / any sportspersons posts with both positive and negative reactions. In Hamilton’s case; there are people saying they’ve gone vegan or donated to charities, having seen the posts. But that’s not enough for you. Fact is, you don’t want to believe sportspeople have influence like that. Sorry but, they do.

As for burden of proof; outside of a legal framework; the burden of proof is with all parties. From your own link: “Burden of proof is an important concept in the public arena of ideas. Once participants in discourse establish common assumptions, the mechanism of burden of proof helps to ensure that all parties contribute productively, using relevant arguments“.

You won’t though... because you can’t.

Checkmate wink
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