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sparta6

3,698 posts

100 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2019
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37chevy said:
sparta6 said:
If Hamilton joins Ferrari, his career will end on a low.
people said that when he left McLaren to join mercedes
Certainly

But their were some who were privy to the Mercedes PU advantage development lockout

37chevy

3,280 posts

156 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2019
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sparta6 said:
37chevy said:
sparta6 said:
If Hamilton joins Ferrari, his career will end on a low.
people said that when he left McLaren to join mercedes
Certainly

But their were some who were privy to the Mercedes PU advantage development lockout
and who has a PU advantage now?..ah yes, that would be Ferrari

sparta6

3,698 posts

100 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2019
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37chevy said:
sparta6 said:
37chevy said:
sparta6 said:
If Hamilton joins Ferrari, his career will end on a low.
people said that when he left McLaren to join mercedes
Certainly

But their were some who were privy to the Mercedes PU advantage development lockout
and who has a PU advantage now?..ah yes, that would be Ferrari
They don't.

They've been experimenting with an exotic deployment and Red Bull phoned the FIA.

True engine evolution has been squashed since 2014.

37chevy

3,280 posts

156 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2019
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sparta6 said:
They don't.
Then you know more than pretty much every F1 pundit and expert out there who state the Ferrari engine is now the best

Think il take their word over yours

E-bmw

9,219 posts

152 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2019
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It seems at least anecdotally that Ferrari have had the more powerful engine for over a year now.

Their aero package has improved in that time to take better advantage of that.

However where they are struggling now is to manage the tyres to take best advantage of the above.

At least these are true if you listen to various alleged experts in the field, and I have to say, what I have seen on track seems to back these up.

kiseca

9,339 posts

219 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2019
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37chevy said:
sparta6 said:
They don't.
Then you know more than pretty much every F1 pundit and expert out there who state the Ferrari engine is now the best

Think il take their word over yours
If Hamilton moves to Ferrari and wins a title, then sparta6 will agree that Ferrari has the best engine (and best car).

Exige77

6,518 posts

191 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2019
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kiseca said:
37chevy said:
sparta6 said:
They don't.
Then you know more than pretty much every F1 pundit and expert out there who state the Ferrari engine is now the best

Think il take their word over yours
If Hamilton moves to Ferrari and wins a title, then sparta6 will agree that Ferrari has the best engine (and best car).
He might say he was just lucky again smile

HighwayStar

4,257 posts

144 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2019
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Exige77 said:
kiseca said:
37chevy said:
sparta6 said:
They don't.
Then you know more than pretty much every F1 pundit and expert out there who state the Ferrari engine is now the best

Think il take their word over yours
If Hamilton moves to Ferrari and wins a title, then sparta6 will agree that Ferrari has the best engine (and best car).
He might say he was just lucky again smile
Yep... That's Sparta6. Especially if Ferrari happen to have the best car as well wink

Big Robbo

319 posts

146 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2019
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Ferrari have good bits, but Mercedes have the better package, and you can safely say that any power deficit that the Merc has this season, then Brixworth will sort it out without any dramas.
Lewis himself acknowledged next season they have to hit the ground running and not rely on the other teams starting slowly.
If he wants to equal Schumacher then he will do it in a Mercedes

paulguitar

23,418 posts

113 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2019
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I suppose the ultimate would be for Lewis to win the title next year, and along the way take the victory record as well, and then do a swan-song at Ferrari, and win an 8th title there!

Of course, even if he did that, there will be a couple of armchair geniuses here saying it counts for nothing because Lewis never won in a Benneton and always had the best radio controlled car when he was 5.

sparta6

3,698 posts

100 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2019
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HighwayStar said:
Exige77 said:
kiseca said:
37chevy said:
sparta6 said:
They don't.
Then you know more than pretty much every F1 pundit and expert out there who state the Ferrari engine is now the best

Think il take their word over yours
If Hamilton moves to Ferrari and wins a title, then sparta6 will agree that Ferrari has the best engine (and best car).
He might say he was just lucky again smile
Yep... That's Sparta6. Especially if Ferrari happen to have the best car as well wink
Perhaps Bottas will surprise us all and switch to Ferrari wink

Equal poles with Hamilton and second in the WDC


Exige77

6,518 posts

191 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2019
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paulguitar said:
I suppose the ultimate would be for Lewis to win the title next year, and along the way take the victory record as well, and then do a swan-song at Ferrari, and win an 8th title there!

Of course, even if he did that, there will be a couple of armchair geniuses here saying it counts for nothing because Lewis never won in a Benneton and always had the best radio controlled car when he was 5.
Don’t forget all the help he has had from him upstairs !!

As you say, what ever he does will never be enough but the people in the know rate him very highly.

Fast, few mistakes, good wheel to wheel and kind to his tyres and drive train. Oh, and all those records.

The red team would have him in a flash if he was available.

All the Gangster types would flog their AMGs and start buying Fezzas.

The Italian fashion houses would have a party.

I can’t wait until the new season starts.

He’s come such a long way from Rye House.

Exige77

6,518 posts

191 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2019
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sparta6 said:
HighwayStar said:
Exige77 said:
kiseca said:
37chevy said:
sparta6 said:
They don't.
Then you know more than pretty much every F1 pundit and expert out there who state the Ferrari engine is now the best

Think il take their word over yours
If Hamilton moves to Ferrari and wins a title, then sparta6 will agree that Ferrari has the best engine (and best car).
He might say he was just lucky again smile
Yep... That's Sparta6. Especially if Ferrari happen to have the best car as well wink
Perhaps Bottas will surprise us all and switch to Ferrari wink

Equal poles with Hamilton and second in the WDC
No points for pole and remember what Ron Dennis famously said about coming second ?

Steamer

13,857 posts

213 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2019
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Exige77 said:
sparta6 said:
HighwayStar said:
Exige77 said:
kiseca said:
37chevy said:
sparta6 said:
They don't.
Then you know more than pretty much every F1 pundit and expert out there who state the Ferrari engine is now the best

Think il take their word over yours
If Hamilton moves to Ferrari and wins a title, then sparta6 will agree that Ferrari has the best engine (and best car).
He might say he was just lucky again smile
Yep... That's Sparta6. Especially if Ferrari happen to have the best car as well wink
Perhaps Bottas will surprise us all and switch to Ferrari wink

Equal poles with Hamilton and second in the WDC
No points for pole and remember what Ron Dennis famously said about coming second ?
Did he say " I hate it because it means the trophies are all different sizes in the showroom"... Just messing - what did he actually say?

paulguitar

23,418 posts

113 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2019
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Steamer said:
Did he say " I hate it because it means the trophies are all different sizes in the showroom"... Just messing - what did he actually say?
He said second is ‘first of the losers’.

Stan the Bat

8,918 posts

212 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2019
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paulguitar said:
Steamer said:
Did he say " I hate it because it means the trophies are all different sizes in the showroom"... Just messing - what did he actually say?
He said second is ‘first of the losers’.
I think that saying comes from much before RD's time

Steamer

13,857 posts

213 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2019
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Stan the Bat said:
paulguitar said:
Steamer said:
Did he say " I hate it because it means the trophies are all different sizes in the showroom"... Just messing - what did he actually say?
He said second is ‘first of the losers’.
I think that saying comes from much before RD's time
I thought it would be along those lines - but seemed a bit obvious.

E-bmw

9,219 posts

152 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2019
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Stan the Bat said:
paulguitar said:
Steamer said:
Did he say " I hate it because it means the trophies are all different sizes in the showroom"... Just messing - what did he actually say?
He said second is ‘first of the losers’.
I think that saying comes from much before RD's time
RD has been in the game for a long time so it could have been him but I recall hearing that well before I was an F1 fan & have been an F1 fan for over 30 years.

CoolHands

18,632 posts

195 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2019
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It’s hardly original to Ron denis

Davos123

5,966 posts

212 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2019
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Ricky Bobby, Talladega Nights - "If you ain't first, you're last!"
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