Lewis Hamilton
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angrymoby said:
PanicBuyingBogRoll said:
KevinCamaroSS said:
paulguitar said:
I think he's come across generally as being a thoroughly decent person, as well as an extraordinary F1 driver, in the running for the greatest of all time.
Some of the vitriol aimed at him here likely says rather more about the writers of the posts than Hamilton, I think.
Agree with this 100%Some of the vitriol aimed at him here likely says rather more about the writers of the posts than Hamilton, I think.
I don't particularly like his taste in clothing or jewellery and he probably wouldn't like mine. But I've seen nothing from him to warrant the reaction he gets from some people.
If he was white, dressed like an nice middle class white person and listened to middle of the road rock music he wouldn't get any of the grief some on here are giving him.
Hamilton waited a full week for someone other than him to step up with some form of support from the world of F1
& i guarantee that some posters on this thread have spent more time posting & knocking Hamilton, than they have posting on their own social media either condemning those who killed George Floyd or in support of BLM
100% here too.
p1stonhead said:
I think he’s already a very very solid contender for the greatest of all time. Thinking about it in my mind I reckon he’s probably there already. Some of his recent seasons have been nearly flawless.
Yep; I knew pre 2007 that he’d be special behind the wheel of an F1 car. His pre F1 career saw some astonishing drives; whole pit lanes with their jaws on the floor. He’s just on another level; with only a handful of names that share the same space.vdn said:
p1stonhead said:
I think he’s already a very very solid contender for the greatest of all time. Thinking about it in my mind I reckon he’s probably there already. Some of his recent seasons have been nearly flawless.
Yep; I knew pre 2007 that he’d be special behind the wheel of an F1 car. His pre F1 career saw some astonishing drives; whole pit lanes with their jaws on the floor. He’s just on another level; with only a handful of names that share the same space.
t this kid is the business. He spun taking the car past the limit so he knew where the limit was. As he was going to have to spend the rest of the race there.
I know there are arguments he's had the best car. But he is head and shoulders above the current field and unquestionably in the GOAT conversation. He is already GOAT in my opinion. I do accept that it is very hard to compare between generations. But he beats Sena and Schumacher at least due to the fact he doesn't have to blatantly cheat to win. And generally races hard and fair.
PanicBuyingBogRoll said:
Turkey in GP2 I think. Asked for a low downforce setup, started at the back or somewhe near. Spun early doors and got very high up the field. Can't remember the exact details. But do remember thinking, what the hell is he doing. Then thinking Holy st this kid is the business.
He spun taking the car past the limit so he knew where the limit was. As he was going to have to spend the rest of the race there.
I know there are arguments he's had the best car. But he is head and shoulders above the current field and unquestionably in the GOAT conversation. He is already GOAT in my opinion. I do accept that it is very hard to compare between generations. But he beats Sena and Schumacher at least due to the fact he doesn't have to blatantly cheat to win. And generally races hard and fair.
‘Monza’ spec.. at Istanbul Parkt this kid is the business. He spun taking the car past the limit so he knew where the limit was. As he was going to have to spend the rest of the race there.
I know there are arguments he's had the best car. But he is head and shoulders above the current field and unquestionably in the GOAT conversation. He is already GOAT in my opinion. I do accept that it is very hard to compare between generations. But he beats Sena and Schumacher at least due to the fact he doesn't have to blatantly cheat to win. And generally races hard and fair.
Here is the full story..
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PanicBuyingBogRoll said:
vdn said:
p1stonhead said:
I think he’s already a very very solid contender for the greatest of all time. Thinking about it in my mind I reckon he’s probably there already. Some of his recent seasons have been nearly flawless.
Yep; I knew pre 2007 that he’d be special behind the wheel of an F1 car. His pre F1 career saw some astonishing drives; whole pit lanes with their jaws on the floor. He’s just on another level; with only a handful of names that share the same space.t this kid is the business. He spun taking the car past the limit so he knew where the limit was. As he was going to have to spend the rest of the race there.
I know there are arguments he's had the best car. But he is head and shoulders above the current field and unquestionably in the GOAT conversation. He is already GOAT in my opinion. I do accept that it is very hard to compare between generations. But he beats Sena and Schumacher at least due to the fact he doesn't have to blatantly cheat to win. And generally races hard and fair.
PanicBuyingBogRoll said:
Turkey in GP2 I think. Asked for a low downforce setup, started at the back or somewhe near. Spun early doors and got very high up the field. Can't remember the exact details. But do remember thinking, what the hell is he doing. Then thinking Holy st this kid is the business.
He spun taking the car past the limit so he knew where the limit was. As he was going to have to spend the rest of the race there.
I know there are arguments he's had the best car. But he is head and shoulders above the current field and unquestionably in the GOAT conversation. He is already GOAT in my opinion. I do accept that it is very hard to compare between generations. But he beats Sena and Schumacher at least due to the fact he doesn't have to blatantly cheat to win. And generally races hard and fair.
He started the race somewhere towards the back of the top 10, spun very early on the proceeded to decimate the field lapping several seconds faster than anyone else. Finished 2nd after getting held up passing Timo Glock (of all people), without the fight that Glock put up he'd probably have won that race.t this kid is the business. He spun taking the car past the limit so he knew where the limit was. As he was going to have to spend the rest of the race there.
I know there are arguments he's had the best car. But he is head and shoulders above the current field and unquestionably in the GOAT conversation. He is already GOAT in my opinion. I do accept that it is very hard to compare between generations. But he beats Sena and Schumacher at least due to the fact he doesn't have to blatantly cheat to win. And generally races hard and fair.
wolfie1978 said:
PanicBuyingBogRoll said:
Turkey in GP2 I think. Asked for a low downforce setup, started at the back or somewhe near. Spun early doors and got very high up the field. Can't remember the exact details. But do remember thinking, what the hell is he doing. Then thinking Holy st this kid is the business.
He spun taking the car past the limit so he knew where the limit was. As he was going to have to spend the rest of the race there.
I know there are arguments he's had the best car. But he is head and shoulders above the current field and unquestionably in the GOAT conversation. He is already GOAT in my opinion. I do accept that it is very hard to compare between generations. But he beats Sena and Schumacher at least due to the fact he doesn't have to blatantly cheat to win. And generally races hard and fair.
He started the race somewhere towards the back of the top 10, spun very early on the proceeded to decimate the field lapping several seconds faster than anyone else. Finished 2nd after getting held up passing Timo Glock (of all people), without the fight that Glock put up he'd probably have won that race.t this kid is the business. He spun taking the car past the limit so he knew where the limit was. As he was going to have to spend the rest of the race there.
I know there are arguments he's had the best car. But he is head and shoulders above the current field and unquestionably in the GOAT conversation. He is already GOAT in my opinion. I do accept that it is very hard to compare between generations. But he beats Sena and Schumacher at least due to the fact he doesn't have to blatantly cheat to win. And generally races hard and fair.
Nampahc Niloc said:
I remember that race really. It was the first GP2 race I saw. I think I just happened to be flicking through channels and it was on. Then this wonder kid who I had never heard of called Lewis Hamilton gives an over taking master class. It was one of those moments where you knew that you were watching a future star.
I was at Silverstone in 2006 for the F1. The Grand Prix was very boring, but that weekend was all about Lewis Hamilton in GP2. He won the feature race on Saturday as if he was in an F1 car rather than a GP2 car, and then on Sunday morning, he won the sprint race from 8th on the grid in spectacular style. I'd been following him since cadet karts, but that weekend was when many UK racing fans became aware we had something a bit special on our hands.Muzzer79 said:
Please share your close-hand insight into Lewis' life pre-Formula One and your in-depth detail on how hard his family struggled.
This old chesnut ultimately boils down to the choices we make.Anthony chose to make tough sacrifices in order to invest into his son's future.
A calculated risk, and a pre-requisite for any significant progress in all aspects of life and business. The investment paid off. Happy days
There are many gifted drivers whose working class parents did not choose the sacrifices that Anthony undertook for his son's career.
Lewis is actually one of the fortunate few.
PanicBuyingBogRoll said:
Whoop. We are discussing racing again
People do indeed forget that he was supreme in the junior categories where the cars, although different, are more the same than in F1.
Yes; been stellar from Karting up. Beating everyone out there.People do indeed forget that he was supreme in the junior categories where the cars, although different, are more the same than in F1.
I hope he gets another WDC this year - but I have a weird feeling about this odd season ahead. Leclerc and Ferrari will be there / and to not mention Vettel seems crazy; but on recent form... however: maybe this virus break realigned his mojo, with time to reflect.
Lewis is naturally divisive as those that appreciate his raw talent for what it (clearly) is, are also generally a bit 'PH' and probably bored to sleep by his ranting over eating guilt free lentils etc.
I've said it before, he's an awesome talent, as sharp as any other driver yet also endlessly consistent and composed - the only guy to beat him to a title he was in contention for gave up semi-broken as he had to put his entire life on pause and be mental coached to manage it in the first place. However... As a bloke to have a beer with or sit next to at a dinner party, I would choose just about any other driver on the grid.
I've said it before, he's an awesome talent, as sharp as any other driver yet also endlessly consistent and composed - the only guy to beat him to a title he was in contention for gave up semi-broken as he had to put his entire life on pause and be mental coached to manage it in the first place. However... As a bloke to have a beer with or sit next to at a dinner party, I would choose just about any other driver on the grid.
I first became aware of Lewis in around 1996 when I also started racing and was in the same UK karting paddocks. His performances in Cadets were stunning but then when he made the move up to the long since defunct Yamaha class and then onto JICA his performances were arguably even more impressive.
When he moved up to those classes he instantly ran at the front and was beating older teenagers who were clearly more experienced and physically developed. It was really impressive and he stood out to everyone who was there. Throw a wet weekend into the mix and he was on another planet. It was clear that with the right support and a bit of luck on his side he would achieve some special things. The luck came in the form of McLaren picking him up and it was thoroughly deserved.
That is why the 'he has the best car' argument always winds me up. He has earned the right to drive that car. In equal equipment from karting right through Formula Renault, F3 and GP2 he hammered everyone. Then he arrived in F1 and ruffled the feathers of his world champion team-mate.
Is he the best ever? That will always be down to opinion, but based it on what I have seen with my own eyes, I would struggle to put another driver ahead of him.
When he moved up to those classes he instantly ran at the front and was beating older teenagers who were clearly more experienced and physically developed. It was really impressive and he stood out to everyone who was there. Throw a wet weekend into the mix and he was on another planet. It was clear that with the right support and a bit of luck on his side he would achieve some special things. The luck came in the form of McLaren picking him up and it was thoroughly deserved.
That is why the 'he has the best car' argument always winds me up. He has earned the right to drive that car. In equal equipment from karting right through Formula Renault, F3 and GP2 he hammered everyone. Then he arrived in F1 and ruffled the feathers of his world champion team-mate.
Is he the best ever? That will always be down to opinion, but based it on what I have seen with my own eyes, I would struggle to put another driver ahead of him.
TwentyFive said:
Is he the best ever? That will always be down to opinion, but based it on what I have seen with my own eyes, I would struggle to put another driver ahead of him.
I don't like the 'best ever' tag. It's almost impossible to compare cars from different eras. He certainly the best of this current era.Exitleft said:
I happen to eat a plant based (lentil rich) diet and I don’t advertise it or rant about it (neither does Lewis) but you’d be amazed the aggressive reaction you get if it is mentioned in passing or at the dinner table when ordering. It does seem to bring out an odd indignation in people who start talking about my belt and did I know Worcester sauce has anchovy in it? That’s their problem and not mine.
Each to their own, indeed. And people should keep their opinions to themselves whilst you're trying to enjoy your dinner.I can't agree that Lewis doesn't advertise or rant about his veganism though. I've heard F1 related questions put to him that he has transformed in to a lecture about the benefits of a plant based diet and how everyone should try it.
My mother in law is a strict veggie yet splashes Worcester sauce in everything to add a depth of flavour... All these years later we're all too polite to point out the flaw in that!! It's not that we wish to deceive her, but we worry she might starve if she knew the truth.. One dark day perhaps she'll read the label..
TheDeuce said:
Exitleft said:
I happen to eat a plant based (lentil rich) diet and I don’t advertise it or rant about it (neither does Lewis) but you’d be amazed the aggressive reaction you get if it is mentioned in passing or at the dinner table when ordering. It does seem to bring out an odd indignation in people who start talking about my belt and did I know Worcester sauce has anchovy in it? That’s their problem and not mine.
Each to their own, indeed. And people should keep their opinions to themselves whilst you're trying to enjoy your dinner.I can't agree that Lewis doesn't advertise or rant about his veganism though. I've heard F1 related questions put to him that he has transformed in to a lecture about the benefits of a plant based diet and how everyone should try it.
My mother in law is a strict veggie yet splashes Worcester sauce in everything to add a depth of flavour... All these years later we're all too polite to point out the flaw in that!! It's not that we wish to deceive her, but we worry she might starve if she knew the truth.. One dark day perhaps she'll read the label..
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