Lewis Hamilton

[ajprice]

When Lewis pitted, Bottas was told to make his lap time 3 seconds slower, so that he wasn't ahead of Hamilton coming out of the pits. The whole Mercedes strategy today didn't work out.

[Poppiecock]

vdn said:

bks.

If Bottas gets ahead on points, by a significant margin, at the half way point; he won’t just be ‘allowed’, they’ll push for Bottas to be WDC.

Prove me wrong.

We’re not talking about Schumacher here...

Do you really think Mercedes would let Bottas build a significant lead? The only way this would ever happen is if Lewis had a string of mechanical failures or an accident which put him out of action for a few races.

You don't pay Hamilton wages to have him finish 2nd to a journeyman on a fraction of the salary.

[37chevy]

Poppiecock said:

Do you really think Mercedes would let Bottas build a significant lead? The only way this would ever happen is if Lewis had a string of mechanical failures or an accident which put him out of action for a few races.

You don't pay Hamilton wages to have him finish 2nd to a journeyman on a fraction of the salary.

Ahh you mean like Rosberg,,,,,oh, wait.


Go troll elsewhere

[Poppiecock]

37chevy said:

Poppiecock said:

Do you really think Mercedes would let Bottas build a significant lead? The only way this would ever happen is if Lewis had a string of mechanical failures or an accident which put him out of action for a few races.

You don't pay Hamilton wages to have him finish 2nd to a journeyman on a fraction of the salary.

Ahh you mean like Rosberg,,,,,oh, wait.


Go troll elsewhere

They learned lessons from the Lewis / Nico years and will ensure this doesn't happen again.

[rdjohn]

ajprice said:

When Lewis pitted, Bottas was told to make his lap time 3 seconds slower, so that he wasn't ahead of Hamilton coming out of the pits. The whole Mercedes strategy today didn't work out.

Like Germany I suspect that Mercedes were completely flat-footed by their strategy this weekend. Ferrari now appear to have the car for all circuits. While it was bad for Bottas I think Toto understands how to play his strongest hand. His priorities are
Mercedes
Hamilton
Bottas
I think the consequences of the Rosberg WDC retirement and the loss of Nikki will only strengthen his resolve in how he plays his cards.

[HighwayStar]

37chevy said:

Poppiecock said:

Do you really think Mercedes would let Bottas build a significant lead? The only way this would ever happen is if Lewis had a string of mechanical failures or an accident which put him out of action for a few races.

You don't pay Hamilton wages to have him finish 2nd to a journeyman on a fraction of the salary.

Ahh you mean like Rosberg,,,,,oh, wait.


Go troll elsewhere

Don’t bother, it won’t suit his agenda.
Jim just suggested the Lewis is n°1 just for a bit of fun... Lob it out there and seen who bites. I’m sure of it

[paulguitar]

Poppiecock said:

37chevy said:

Poppiecock said:

Do you really think Mercedes would let Bottas build a significant lead? The only way this would ever happen is if Lewis had a string of mechanical failures or an accident which put him out of action for a few races.

You don't pay Hamilton wages to have him finish 2nd to a journeyman on a fraction of the salary.

Ahh you mean like Rosberg,,,,,oh, wait.


Go troll elsewhere

They learned lessons from the Lewis / Nico years and will ensure this doesn't happen again.

It seems suspiciously like they wanted Nico to be champion one year, perhaps to have a German WDC, get a different face onto the marketing posters, etc.

Now the Merc drivers are entirely free to race each other but expect common sense to be applied, both from the team itself and the drivers. What they did yesterday made total sense, just as what was done at Ferrari made sense.

Bottas was the man to beat at the start of the season and Lewis was playing catch up. Anyone who thinks that scenario represents Hamilton as the clear number one driver at Merc is deluded.

[anonymous-user]

vdn said:

Bo_apex said:

Bottas will not be allowed to win a WDC while Hamilton is at Mercedes.

bks.

If Bottas gets ahead on points, by a significant margin, at the half way point; he won’t just be ‘allowed’, they’ll push for Bottas to be WDC.

Prove me wrong.

We’re not talking about Schumacher here...

It’s not really relevant. Bottas was chosen by Mercedes and accepted by Hamilton because, extreme circumstances excepted, he’s never going to beat Hamilton over a season.

They wouldn’t want and don’t need another Hamilton/Rosberg situation, especially now that other teams are getting their cars closer to the Mercedes in overall ability.

[kiseca]

Poppiecock said:

vdn said:

bks.

If Bottas gets ahead on points, by a significant margin, at the half way point; he won’t just be ‘allowed’, they’ll push for Bottas to be WDC.

Prove me wrong.

We’re not talking about Schumacher here...

Do you really think Mercedes would let Bottas build a significant lead? The only way this would ever happen is if Lewis had a string of mechanical failures or an accident which put him out of action for a few races.

You don't pay Hamilton wages to have him finish 2nd to a journeyman on a fraction of the salary.

You don't risk points (which are money) and a championship win just so your expensive guy doesn't get beaten by the cheap one. They would have nothing to gain from such a decision. If Bottas was beating Hamilton, the only person who would have an interest in changing that balance would be Lewis, and the only other person who could influence it would be Bottas.

Nico won because he got better results that year. If Bottas outdrives Lewis enough times in a season, the championship is his for the taking. Anything else is a conspiracy theory and deserves about as much consideration as one.

[glazbagun]

Do we think Mercedes have given up on this years car given Lewis' early lead, and are ploughing resources into next years, or (given Ferrari's nightmare start of the season) is this a more representative view of where the teams actually stand this year?

[E34-3.2]

glazbagun said:

Do we think Mercedes have given up on this years car given Lewis' early lead, and are ploughing resources into next years, or (given Ferrari's nightmare start of the season) is this a more representative view of where the teams actually stand this year?

I don't think so. The level of professionalism in that team is second to none and not finishing first is a huge disappointment. Mercedes wants to take Lewis above 92 victories.

[p1stonhead]

Bo_apex said:

Bottas will not be capable of winning a WDC while Hamilton is at Mercedes.

EFA

[Catatafish]

Hamilton with 6,7,8... WDC will be pure marketing gold for both Hamilton and Merc, hence they will try to get as far into the record books as possible.

If Bottas gets some WDC, that's nice but no one is as interested.

[Connectors]

REALIST123 said:

Oh yes it is. It’s become laughable.

But it's always funny to read sanctimonious ste spouted by holier than thou vegans.

[Catatafish]

Hamilton has absolutely monstered this season with 8 wins thus far compared to just 2 for the next nearest competitors Bottas, Leclerc and Verstappen. The merc has not been the quickest car either this year.

[vdn]

Connectors said:

REALIST123 said:

Oh yes it is. It’s become laughable.

But it's always funny to read sanctimonious ste spouted by holier than thou vegans.

Holier than ‘thou’... sanctimonious...

Perhaps.

ste? Not so much. A lot of what’s said is true and kudos to anyone that puts their money where their mouth is.

[KevinCamaroSS]

kiseca said:

Nico won because he got better results that year. If Bottas outdrives Lewis enough times in a season, the championship is his for the taking. Anything else is a conspiracy theory and deserves about as much consideration as one.

Err, no he did not. He won because Hamilton's car had woeful reliability.

Hamilton won more races than Rosberg that year.

[kiseca]

KevinCamaroSS said:

kiseca said:

Nico won because he got better results that year. If Bottas outdrives Lewis enough times in a season, the championship is his for the taking. Anything else is a conspiracy theory and deserves about as much consideration as one.

Err, no he did not. He won because Hamilton's car had woeful reliability.

Hamilton won more races than Rosberg that year.

Of course he got better results. If he didn't, he wouldn't have won the championship. Driver with the most points wins.

The results for every year in history have been a result of car reliability and performance as well as driver and team reliability and performance. 2016 was no different.

[VladD]

E34-3.2 said:

glazbagun said:

Do we think Mercedes have given up on this years car given Lewis' early lead, and are ploughing resources into next years, or (given Ferrari's nightmare start of the season) is this a more representative view of where the teams actually stand this year?

I don't think so. The level of professionalism in that team is second to none and not finishing first is a huge disappointment. Mercedes wants to take Lewis above 92 victories.

Anyone else think it's interesting that the Ferrari got faster over the summer break?

[E34-3.2]

VladD said:

Anyone else think it's interesting that the Ferrari got faster over the summer break?

Interesting yes, hard work I guess but a few people in the paddock are suspicious. A bit like when in 2017 or 18 when Ferrari were doing something different. Toto mentioned in SPA that he has full confidence in the FIA inspectors to be impartial with their work... Hmmmm.