Lewis Hamilton

[TheDeuce]

Jonesy23 said:

I think lockdown has been messing with his head a bit:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/06/01/lewis-...

I'm not exactly sure what he expects a load of people who don't live or work in the US or have anything to do with the events to come out and say?

Jeez... For years stars have been criticised for what they do say, now he's complaining about what they don't say!?

Seems unreasonable to claim everyone else is a racist just because they haven't publicly commented on the death of a specific black person.

Lewis must just be very bored. Roll on Austria..

[Muzzer79]

Jonesy23 said:

I think lockdown has been messing with his head a bit:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/06/01/lewis-...

I'm not exactly sure what he expects a load of people who don't live or work in the US or have anything to do with the events to come out and say?

This is not a US-only problem, it's a world-wide problem.

Even having nothing to do with the events, he's expecting his peers, his colleagues, people who have influence and are respected by hundreds of thousands, if not millions, to use that influence to condemn the events and be part of the effort for change.

He is pointing out that by staying silent, the sport is not speaking out against what happened.

So, I disagree that "lockdown has been messing with his head"

[TheDeuce]

Muzzer79 said:

This is not a US-only problem, it's a world-wide problem.

Even having nothing to do with the events, he's expecting his peers, his colleagues, people who have influence and are respected by hundreds of thousands, if not millions, to use that influence to condemn the events and be part of the effort for change.

He is pointing out that by staying silent, the sport is not speaking out against what happened.

So, I disagree that "lockdown has been messing with his head"

I don't disagree with any of that.. but to imply people are racist just for not going out of their way to say the right thing is a bit strong imo.

[Jonesy23]

It might have had a bit more weight if Lewis himself had come out with a nice straightforward statement first, then 24 hours later piped up when if no-one else had. Though I don't see why they would as it'd just be bandwagon jumping to start talking about a thing you have no connection to.

To leap straight into a general rant is a bit much, and he never does his race arguments when his head is completely straight.

[housen]

yeah hes gone cray


and lets just admit america is a st country and this stuff is the norm


doesn't make it right


but why is everyone surprised this is happening ? just because its classed as a 1st world country ?

[glazbagun]

TheDeuce said:

I don't disagree with any of that.. but to imply people are racist just for not going out of their way to say the right thing is a bit strong imo.

The sport was in Bahrain the year after the state was killing protestors in the street and in Russia the same year they invaded Ukraine. F1 has always been pretty amoral.

[TheDeuce]

glazbagun said:

The sport was in Bahrain the year after the state was killing protestors in the street and in Russia the same year they invaded Ukraine. F1 has always been pretty amoral.

I think F1 is just focussed on racing. Which is fair enough.

Obviously like all outfits it 'could' it's influence in endless helpful ways, but imo it's nice when that happens, not a criticism if it doesn't though.

[anonymous-user]

TheDeuce said:

glazbagun said:

The sport was in Bahrain the year after the state was killing protestors in the street and in Russia the same year they invaded Ukraine. F1 has always been pretty amoral.

I think F1 is just focussed on racing. Which is fair enough.

Obviously like all outfits it 'could' it's influence in endless helpful ways, but imo it's nice when that happens, not a criticism if it doesn't though.

No, F1’s focussed on the money. If it were the racing they were interested in they would never have gone or go to some of the places they do.

It’s always been the money.

As for Hamilton, does he really think the personalities involved have any influence? Most of the world have no idea who they are.

[Muzzer79]

TheDeuce said:

glazbagun said:

The sport was in Bahrain the year after the state was killing protestors in the street and in Russia the same year they invaded Ukraine. F1 has always been pretty amoral.

I think F1 is just focussed on racing. Which is fair enough.

Yeah, just racing - nothing else.

The lorry-loads of cash that Bahrain, Russia and various other dubious countries park at F1's door is not their focus at all.

After all, it's about the racing heritage of these countries and clearly choosing the most exciting tracks with the most fans......

[Muzzer79]

REALIST123 said:

As for Hamilton, does he really think the personalities involved have any influence? Most of the world have no idea who they are.

Daniel Ricciardo has 1.8m Twitter followers

Max Verstappen has 1.1m followers

That's not small.

[anonymous-user]

I don't see anything wrong with influential sports people speaking out. However I also don't have a problem with them choosing not to.

I can understand how Hamilton may feel in some way isolated as the only black driver in a sport with very few BAME people involved at all, however I don't think his criticism of the other drivers is fair.

Have a feeling this year we're going to see unsettled and emotional Hamilton.

[DeltonaS]

TheDeuce said:

I don't disagree with any of that.. but to imply people are racist just for not going out of their way to say the right thing is a bit strong imo.

It's typically Lil'Lewis.

Pathetic and melodramatic, trying to put himself on a pedestal, the moral high ground, over the back of his colleagues. Even making them suspect in the process.

Disingenuous opportunistic little man is what he is.

[Jonesy23]

RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:

I can understand how Hamilton may feel in some way isolated as the only black driver in a sport with very few BAME people involved at all

Just out of interest, is anyone in the sport taking any initiative to do anything with this? I don't mean corporate efforts, I mean personal efforts around things like scholarships and sponsorships.

Just wondering if any of the concern extends beyond moaning about how terrible things are into spending actual cash money to change them.

[768]

Not very graceful from Lewis.

[Kraken]

Personally I really like the "modern" Lewis compared to the old corporate robot. I find myself agreeing with most of what he says these days and I can't help wondering how much longer he will be able to reconcile the odd world of F1 with his own beliefs.

[Bo_apex]

Hamilton would benefit from studying some history before judging his peers.

Unfortunately the US has always behaved like a Police state. Very trigger happy towards all citizens.

[majordad]

It’s biased because most of the crime is committed by Black Americans. This guy while not in any way deserving being killed was was not an Angel. At the same time I’m surprised the police Officer who was pictured kneeling on him , and the other officer , had fired their guns in lethal manner times before.

[BrettMRC]

He's a world champion, of course he is self centred!

[Bo_apex]

anonymous said:

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If you wish to focus on a selective part of US history then carry on.
Many of its biggest stars and highest earners are African Americans.

As you bring up the ethnicity element, what do you think about the way Mexicans are treated ?

[Muzzer79]

majordad said:

It’s biased because most of the crime is committed by Black Americans. This guy while not in any way deserving being killed was was not an Angel.

I'm assuming that you are a white male.

If most crime was committed by white males, would you be OK with being restrained by way of a knee to the neck on suspicion of using a counterfeit $20 note, when non-white males were not treated this way?