do we know where the Benettons have ended up?

[lotus72]

Nice, where was this?

[Pachydermus]

On the Magny Cours club circuit with LRS.

[lucido grigio]

As said above,I knew I'd seen one somewhere.

Found this pic earlier.





In the background for those who can only see a Jordan.

In the museum at Sinsheim,Germany.

No idea if there is more than 1 car there.

[Bunfighter]

jsf said:

The first F1 car to carry Benetton livery is sat in my workshop. 1983 Tyrrell 011.

We have a Guy Martin TT race bike sat in ours.

[pits]

Bunfighter said:

jsf said:

The first F1 car to carry Benetton livery is sat in my workshop. 1983 Tyrrell 011.

We have a Guy Martin TT race bike sat in ours.

Yeah well I have an 840ci with a blocked cat in mine, and some really old bikes from when I was kid

[Lincsblokey]

Bunfighter said:

jsf said:

The first F1 car to carry Benetton livery is sat in my workshop. 1983 Tyrrell 011.

We have a Guy Martin TT race bike sat in ours.

Which one?

[Longnose]

Here's a better pic of the Benetton at Sinsheim. Beware that a lot of their exhibits are show cars, not necessarily real ones.

[Sa Calobra]

Lincsblokey said:

Which one?

It's a Tyco Suzuki. I'll have to check which race number etc. It's in its own case with forklift.

[Vocal Minority]

Longnose said:

Here's a better pic of the Benetton at Sinsheim. Beware that a lot of their exhibits are show cars, not necessarily real ones.

That's not a b195, just liveried. Doesn't look quite right all round....in fact is that an old low nose car with a prosthetic up front?

Edited by Vocal Minority on Saturday 11th March 10:27

[F1GTRUeno]

It looks like a B192 with an awful livery job attempting to be a B195.

[Vocal Minority]

Good catch, looks like you are bang on.

[Paul578]

The pedant in me says that the picture above looks like a bodged bitsa any is clearly not a genuine B192, particularly as the B191+ cars had a smooth rounded profile from the underside of the nose all the way through to the tub's tea-tray, in this case the front suspension's lower wishbone can be seen going into the chassis.
The other thing that immediately sticks out is that the front wing assembly (less the supports) looks like its from a B191. What does it for me is the general shape of the tub including the sidepod intakes and that it looks more like a period (1994) Ligier JS39. Maybe when Flavio Briatore bought Ligier for the Renault engine supply he'd then frankensteined a bunch of show cars from leftover parts?

[kgab78]

It looks like a B190 with an odd Show Car nose.

[andburg]

read an article saying James Martin has/had an ex Benetton F1 car

[stevesuk]

andburg said:

read an article saying James Martin has/had an ex Benetton F1 car

Maybe this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-Z81HDdvGA

Seems he also has a Jordan and a Marussia.

[F1GTRUeno]

The nose on the Sinsheim car definitely doesn't fit the rest of it.

Just thought the airbox kink and shape looked like a B192. Sidepods and the little bump behind the front wheels too but it's clearly not 100% accurate.

[GCH]

F1GTRUeno said:

It looks like a B192 with an awful livery job attempting to be a B195.

Which would be a shame, given the B192 is a far better looking car, in a nicer livery, as are the B191 & B190 which it also could be, or, as others have suggested, a bitsa.
Maybe a B192 nose on a B190?
Looks odd anyway - shame.

[EDIT]
It lists it as a B195 on their site, but the picture they show is clearly not the same car... https://sinsheim.technik-museum.de/de/benetton-ren...
Something also fishy about their McLaren 'MP4'... https://sinsheim.technik-museum.de/de/mclaren-mp4

Edited by GCH on Wednesday 15th March 00:03

[ralphrj]

GCH said:

Something also fishy about their McLaren 'MP4'... https://sinsheim.technik-museum.de/de/mclaren-mp4

I'm not sure that is even an F1 car.

[Vocal Minority]

good lord....

[kgab78]

"It lists it as a B195 on their site, but the picture they show is clearly not the same car..."

I don't think that's even a B195 either, it's a 194 in 195 Livery. the Cockpit sides aren't
high enough to be a 195, nor are the outer/ upper surfaces of the Sidepods.