Honda - another disaster ?

[Vaud]

thegreenhell said:

KevinCamaroSS said:

How much would Ferrari have to pay Fiat Chrysler to use any of the FCA brand names?

How much would FCA have to pay to put one of their other brand names on a Ferrari engine?

$1or
$1M or
$100M

Depends what both parties want it to be and how the accountants want to show it.

[MartG]

jsf said:

thegreenhell said:

KevinCamaroSS said:

How much would Ferrari have to pay Fiat Chrysler to use any of the FCA brand names?

How much would FCA have to pay to put one of their other brand names on a Ferrari engine?

Knowing how these large groups work, there probably would be some internal charging structure, got to write off tax someway I suppose.

FTFY

[KevinCamaroSS]

jsf said:

thegreenhell said:

KevinCamaroSS said:

How much would Ferrari have to pay Fiat Chrysler to use any of the FCA brand names?

How much would FCA have to pay to put one of their other brand names on a Ferrari engine?

Knowing how these large groups work, there probably would be some internal charging structure, got to cook the books someway I suppose.

You do know that Ferrari and FCA are totally separate entities these days?

[anonymous-user]

KevinCamaroSS said:

jsf said:

thegreenhell said:

KevinCamaroSS said:

How much would Ferrari have to pay Fiat Chrysler to use any of the FCA brand names?

How much would FCA have to pay to put one of their other brand names on a Ferrari engine?

Knowing how these large groups work, there probably would be some internal charging structure, got to cook the books someway I suppose.

You do know that Ferrari and FCA are totally separate entities these days?

I had forgotten about that spin off. Its fun how these groups make money.

This chap seems to run the world in relation to all these brands, including the spun off Ferrari, so no doubt the money will be appropriately sorted. https://www.fcagroup.com/en-US/group/governance/bo...

[C Lee Farquar]

And on the board of Phillip Morris

He was quite clear in a Sky interview that none of the brands are going into Formula E at this stage, the formula is too immature for him.

[Leithen]

jsf said:

KevinCamaroSS said:

jsf said:

thegreenhell said:

KevinCamaroSS said:

How much would Ferrari have to pay Fiat Chrysler to use any of the FCA brand names?

How much would FCA have to pay to put one of their other brand names on a Ferrari engine?

Knowing how these large groups work, there probably would be some internal charging structure, got to cook the books someway I suppose.

You do know that Ferrari and FCA are totally separate entities these days?

I had forgotten about that spin off. Its fun how these groups make money.

This chap seems to run the world in relation to all these brands, including the spun off Ferrari, so no doubt the money will be appropriately sorted. https://www.fcagroup.com/en-US/group/governance/bo...

Ultimately John Elkann will probably decide.

[MartG]

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/mclaren-honda-e...

No actual confirmation announcement from McLaren or Honda though

[Sa Calobra]

Well worse case that's bestcase scenario for Honda

[Vaud]

There is a very good article on Autosport Plus that goes into the full story:

https://www.autosport.com/f1/feature/7716/how-mcla...

[suffolk009]

The internet is now saying that McLaren have confirmed they're splitting with Honda from the end of this year.

More unexpectedly there are also claims that Red Bull Racing (not Torro Rosso) will not be with Renault after the end of next year. I'm not sure that one is true - why would they announce that a year early. Doesn't make sense to me.

[MissChief]

suffolk009 said:

The internet is now saying that McLaren have confirmed they're splitting with Honda from the end of this year.

More unexpectedly there are also claims that Red Bull Racing (not Torro Rosso) will not be with Renault after the end of next year. I'm not sure that one is true - why would they announce that a year early. Doesn't make sense to me.

until I see a press release from Honda and/or McLaren I'm not believing it, even though I do believe it's going to happen.

[rubystone]

MissChief said:

until I see a press release from Honda and/or McLaren I'm not believing it, even though I do believe it's going to happen.

The two sources are reputable. Neither is known for clickbaiting and both are respected if not universally liked. The RBR Renault story is dynamite and I'd heard zero rumours about it. Karma indeed, but will accelerate Didi's exit from the sport, I'd wager.

[Frimley111R]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/41248320

[Car-Matt]

rubystone said:

The two sources are reputable. Neither is known for clickbaiting and both are respected if not universally liked. The RBR Renault story is dynamite and I'd heard zero rumours about it. Karma indeed, but will accelerate Didi's exit from the sport, I'd wager.

Rumour is that Porsche are interested......I can see them entering the sport at the next reg change.......having a Honda factory deal as a banker till then is good business by RBR, surely Honda will get their house in order for the 2019 season if not before.

[thegreenhell]

"Honda says it never considered leaving Formula 1 as its relationship with McLaren unravelled, and has set a bold top-three target with new partner Toro Rosso".

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/honda-targets-t...

[anonymous-user]

Talk is cheap.

[jammy-git]

Wonder what the odds on Torro Rosso beating McLaren in the constructors next year are?

[HustleRussell]

jammy-git said:

Wonder what the odds on Torro Rosso beating McLaren in the constructors next year are?

Ought to be pretty long if Kvyat is being retained.

[MiniMan64]

HustleRussell said:

jammy-git said:

Wonder what the odds on Torro Rosso beating McLaren in the constructors next year are?

Ought to be pretty long if Kvyat is being retained.

Got to be a long shot that.

Who's next on the Red Bull young driver conveyor belt? Gasly?

[cuprabob]

MiniMan64 said:

HustleRussell said:

jammy-git said:

Wonder what the odds on Torro Rosso beating McLaren in the constructors next year are?

Ought to be pretty long if Kvyat is being retained.

Got to be a long shot that.

Who's next on the Red Bull young driver conveyor belt? Gasly?

It'll be tbe boy who replaced Sainz in FP1 today. Can't remember his name.

Edit: his name is Sean Gelael

Edited by cuprabob on Friday 15th September 20:39