Sauber seal Honda deal for 2018

[LaurasOtherHalf]

Sky and others now reporting...

http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/10855471/ho...

Now word of whether there will be parity with what McLaren will be getting though considering their work to be done, you'd assume they'd (Honda) want it for research.

[Newscuttlepanel]

Or alternatively, Honda beg someone, anyone, to use their engines.

[BoRED S2upid]

Newscuttlepanel said:

Or alternatively, Honda beg someone, anyone, to use their engines.

And pay them millions.

[Some Gump]

LaurasOtherHalf said:

Sky and others now reporting...

http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/10855471/ho...

Now word of whether there will be parity with what McLaren will be getting though considering their work to be done, you'd assume they'd (Honda) want it for research.

Define parity!
They're probably paying dauber less, but I'd expect the engines in all cars to be equally down on power, and equally unreliable

[Newscuttlepanel]

Hopefully a great deal for all parties, I'm guessing the additional data Honda get from Sauber will help them with development and I like the racing for racings sake teams, which Sauber appear to be. Good news.

[FourWheelDrift]

By the time Honda have caught up the regulations will probably change again.

[London424]

I don't understand some of the comments from what I would consider F1 experts questioning this deal like it's awful for Sauber.

They are dead last, using a year old engine and paying for that privilege. Yes the Honda is a dog still this year, but if they've got anywhere like a McLaren deal at least they can stay in business racing!

[cuprabob]

I will certainly speed up the Honda development and it will also give McLaren a car to race:-)

[rubystone]

London424 said:

I don't understand some of the comments from what I would consider F1 experts questioning this deal like it's awful for Sauber.

They are dead last, using a year old engine and paying for that privilege. Yes the Honda is a dog still this year, but if they've got anywhere like a McLaren deal at least they can stay in business racing!

Their current state of funding means that this is a no brainier for them. I wonder which driver Honda will put in the car though? Are there any up and coming Japanese drivers?

[Matt_N]

cuprabob said:

I will certainly speed up the Honda development and it will also give McLaren a car to race:-)

Rumour mill is churning that McLaren may be Mercedes powered once again next year.

[FourWheelDrift]

rubystone said:

Their current state of funding means that this is a no brainier for them. I wonder which driver Honda will put in the car though? Are there any up and coming Japanese drivers?

Nobuharu Matsusta was McLaren's development test last year, don't recall him ever driving the car though. He's in F2 this year.

[Matt UK]

Matt_N said:

Rumour mill is churning that McLaren may be Mercedes powered once again next year.

I hope so. It'll make that rucksack I purchased not look out of date any more.

[EddyP]

Yesterday EJ stated that McLaren will be running Merc power next year.

I hope he's right...



EDIT - Just seen this on FB:

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/mclaren-jordan-...

Edited by EddyP on Sunday 30th April 14:24

[Some Gump]

Edddie bloody Jordan.
Spouting st and being right 1/2 the time doesn't mean you're not just making it up.

[belleair302]

Mansour Ojjeh and his Bahraini business partners I am sure are talking to M-B. Am certain they hold a stake Daimler Benz are will be wanting their share in McLaren to not be worthless.

[thegreenhell]

belleair302 said:

Mansour Ojjeh and his Bahraini business partners I am sure are talking to M-B. Am certain they hold a stake Daimler Benz are will be wanting their share in McLaren to not be worthless.

Mercedes sold their share of McLaren in 2009.

[Glasgowrob]

Makes no sense,

why would sauber bin a perfectly good deal for year old Ferrari tech (if they get the previous years cast offs then next years should be particularly good)

looking at the current Honda engine they'd be as well strapping a turbo to a dog turd

[F1GTRUeno]

Glasgowrob said:

Makes no sense,

why would sauber bin a perfectly good deal for year old Ferrari tech (if they get the previous years cast offs then next years should be particularly good)

looking at the current Honda engine they'd be as well strapping a turbo to a dog turd

Money.

Sauber have a budget of about 27p and Honda will probably pay them an insane amount to run the pile of ste in the back of their car.

[MissChief]

F1GTRUeno said:

Glasgowrob said:

Makes no sense,

why would sauber bin a perfectly good deal for year old Ferrari tech (if they get the previous years cast offs then next years should be particularly good)

looking at the current Honda engine they'd be as well strapping a turbo to a dog turd

Money.

Sauber have a budget of about 27p and Honda will probably pay them an insane amount to run the pile of ste in the back of their car.

Last I read was that Ferrari were insistent on a three year deal for this years engines which Sauber refused to sign up to. Sauber then took advantage of the regulations by going to Honda and asking them for engines for 2018. Quite what the deal is I don't know, but I'd be shocked if the deal wasn't cheaper than they're paying Ferrari for this season.

I'll also be shocked if McLaren do go to MB engines. Not only will they have to pay for them, they'll be losing out on circa £100 million of Honda money and investment. The type of money that could easily lead them to doing a Williams and not winning a race for a decade or more. I just can't see it at all. It would be financial suicide.

[London424]

F1GTRUeno said:

Glasgowrob said:

Makes no sense,

why would sauber bin a perfectly good deal for year old Ferrari tech (if they get the previous years cast offs then next years should be particularly good)

looking at the current Honda engine they'd be as well strapping a turbo to a dog turd

Money.

Sauber have a budget of about 27p and Honda will probably pay them an insane amount to run the pile of ste in the back of their car.

Exactly. I'm not sure why people are struggling with this. They are dead last and have to pay to do it and have buttons of a budget and barely any sponsorship. Honda deal will either be paying them or peanuts compared to Ferrari.

It means they can continue racing!