Kubica back in an F1 car
Discussion
Supersam83 said:
Not necessarily:
"The licence is issued to drivers who have met criteria of success in junior motorsport categories, or in exceptional circumstances, those who have not met those criteria but have demonstrated "outstanding ability in single-seater formula cars" and achieved 300 kilometres (190 miles) of running in a Formula One car."
I think 2013 car is still classed as an F1 car and he doesn't need to run in a 2017 car to get the Super licence.
The Paul Ricard test is next week and he will most probably do a race sim which will give him the Super Licence.
Plenty of time before Hungary test in August.
On that description he should already have one. He has shown ability on F1 before, and also completed more than 300km in his F1 career."The licence is issued to drivers who have met criteria of success in junior motorsport categories, or in exceptional circumstances, those who have not met those criteria but have demonstrated "outstanding ability in single-seater formula cars" and achieved 300 kilometres (190 miles) of running in a Formula One car."
I think 2013 car is still classed as an F1 car and he doesn't need to run in a 2017 car to get the Super licence.
The Paul Ricard test is next week and he will most probably do a race sim which will give him the Super Licence.
Plenty of time before Hungary test in August.
cuprabob said:
There is no doubt Kubica was a talent and what happened to.him was a travesty that prevented us from seeing his full potential in F1, however apart from the PR I don't understand why Renault are doing this as I'm sure there are several young driver's who could do equivalent times in the car without the hassle of modifying the car or risking Kubica's reputation.
Have you see the bloke drive recently? He was faster than reserve driver Sirotkin in the recent test.This is a must watch to fully gauge his talent.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cr7Dsg4WKfQ
F1GTRUeno said:
KevinCamaroSS said:
On that description he should already have one. He has shown ability on F1 before, and also completed more than 300km in his F1 career.
Circumstances have changed an awful lot since his F1 career ended though.He's effectively qualifying as a new driver.
FIA appendix L said:
5.1.6 Except if the applicant qualifies under Article 5.1.7 a) or b), the
F1 Team concerned must show that the applicant has driven at
least 300 km in a representative Formula One car(1) consistently
at racing speeds, over a maximum period of 2 days, completed
not more than 180 days prior to the application, either certified by
the ASN of the country in which the test took place or during an
event counting for the FIA Formula One World Championship for
Drivers.
5.1.7 The driver must also satisfy at least one of the following
requirements:
a) Have accumulated at least 40 points during the three-year
period preceding his application (Championships and points listed
in Supplement 2.
b) Have been granted a Super Licence (excluding Free Practice
Only Super Licence) in any of the previous 3 seasons.
c) Have been granted a Super Licence prior to the previous 3
seasons (excluding Free Practice Only Super Licence). In this
case, the driver must be judged by the FIA to have recently and
consistently demonstrated outstanding ability in single-seater
formula cars.
F1 Team concerned must show that the applicant has driven at
least 300 km in a representative Formula One car(1) consistently
at racing speeds, over a maximum period of 2 days, completed
not more than 180 days prior to the application, either certified by
the ASN of the country in which the test took place or during an
event counting for the FIA Formula One World Championship for
Drivers.
5.1.7 The driver must also satisfy at least one of the following
requirements:
a) Have accumulated at least 40 points during the three-year
period preceding his application (Championships and points listed
in Supplement 2.
b) Have been granted a Super Licence (excluding Free Practice
Only Super Licence) in any of the previous 3 seasons.
c) Have been granted a Super Licence prior to the previous 3
seasons (excluding Free Practice Only Super Licence). In this
case, the driver must be judged by the FIA to have recently and
consistently demonstrated outstanding ability in single-seater
formula cars.
hixster said:
Have you see the bloke drive recently? He was faster than reserve driver Sirotkin in the recent test.
This is a must watch to fully gauge his talent.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cr7Dsg4WKfQ
Wow, words fail me. This is a must watch to fully gauge his talent.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cr7Dsg4WKfQ
Adapt, innovate overcome.
Give him a seat..
Edited by Sylvaforever on Sunday 9th July 12:29
Renault Sport boss Cyril Abiteboul continues to play down the significance of Robert Kubica's ongoing test programme, but admits that if it is successful, the Pole could race again in F1.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/renault-kubica-...
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/renault-kubica-...
Robert Kubica completes further Renault Formula 1 test
Robert Kubica's comeback to Formula 1 from life-changing injuries moved a step closer after a second test for Renault on Wednesday.
The test at France's Paul Ricard track was aimed at evaluating whether the Pole can make a comeback despite having only partial movement in his right arm.
The 32-year-old completed 90 trouble-free laps, with a Renault spokesman saying that he performed "completely".
Kubica told L'Equipe newspaper a return would present "physically, no problem".
He added that it was too early to say whether he could make a full comeback from the injuries suffered in a rallying accident in February 2011.
Kubica's run at the track in the south of France was his second test for Renault in two months.
An initial test in Valencia last month was said to be a "one off" but he impressed sufficiently that the team scheduled a second run "to assess his capabilities to return to the highest level of competition".
Kubica, who won the 2008 Canadian Grand Prix for BMW Sauber, was regarded as one of the fastest drivers in F1 before his career was cut short before his second season with Renault.
"It is necessary to go step by step," he told L'Equipe, the only media outlet allowed into the test.
"I have come a long way. Don't forget that. My doubts about my capacities have disappeared with these two days of tests. I am no longer afraid of not being at the level but there remains a way to go."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/40587621
I think we will see him in the Renault RS17 car at the Hungary test on 1st-2nd August 2017.
Can't wait...
Robert Kubica's comeback to Formula 1 from life-changing injuries moved a step closer after a second test for Renault on Wednesday.
The test at France's Paul Ricard track was aimed at evaluating whether the Pole can make a comeback despite having only partial movement in his right arm.
The 32-year-old completed 90 trouble-free laps, with a Renault spokesman saying that he performed "completely".
Kubica told L'Equipe newspaper a return would present "physically, no problem".
He added that it was too early to say whether he could make a full comeback from the injuries suffered in a rallying accident in February 2011.
Kubica's run at the track in the south of France was his second test for Renault in two months.
An initial test in Valencia last month was said to be a "one off" but he impressed sufficiently that the team scheduled a second run "to assess his capabilities to return to the highest level of competition".
Kubica, who won the 2008 Canadian Grand Prix for BMW Sauber, was regarded as one of the fastest drivers in F1 before his career was cut short before his second season with Renault.
"It is necessary to go step by step," he told L'Equipe, the only media outlet allowed into the test.
"I have come a long way. Don't forget that. My doubts about my capacities have disappeared with these two days of tests. I am no longer afraid of not being at the level but there remains a way to go."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/40587621
I think we will see him in the Renault RS17 car at the Hungary test on 1st-2nd August 2017.
Can't wait...
Karun stated earlier today that Kubica could well be testing a current spec car in Budapest. The team have had to modify the placement of a number of switches on the steering wheel to accommodate the lack of flexibility in his fingers, but apart from that they foresee no real issues with him getting into the modern car.
DanielSan said:
If he can stick some decent times in during the Hungary test, assuming he goes of course I'd say the comeback is very much on. Possibly to replace Palmer for next season.
Why wait? They need the points, so if he is fit, give Kubica the balance of the year in the car. If it doesn't work out, they haven't lost much...?Renault says there are no "obvious roadblocks" to prevent Robert Kubica making a Formula 1 comeback next year, judging by his latest test for the team.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/kubica-abitebou...
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/kubica-abitebou...
With the greatest of respect to Robert he couldn't even hang on to a WRC car for one stage and at times was almost dangerous. Driving a high G force, 200mph F1 car for 2 hours is surely going to be even harder, and then there is operating all the switches, which you need to be competitive. Being just 2 tenths off your team mate is seen as very bad, and I feel the romance of the comeback would soon wear off.
I fully expect to be proven wrong!
I fully expect to be proven wrong!
Allyc85 said:
With the greatest of respect to Robert he couldn't even hang on to a WRC car for one stage and at times was almost dangerous. Driving a high G force, 200mph F1 car for 2 hours is surely going to be even harder, and then there is operating all the switches, which you need to be competitive. Being just 2 tenths off your team mate is seen as very bad, and I feel the romance of the comeback would soon wear off.
I fully expect to be proven wrong!
That is the purpose of the tests, surely?I fully expect to be proven wrong!
Allyc85 said:
With the greatest of respect to Robert he couldn't even hang on to a WRC car for one stage and at times was almost dangerous.
nonsense! he won the WRC2 championship in 2013Allyc85 said:
I fully expect to be proven wrong!
ok then https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cr7Dsg4WKfQEdited by hixster on Saturday 15th July 00:33
I really enjoyed watching him in F1 - he just seemed to have that certain something you can't define that distinguishes the best from the talented.
I was gutted when I heard about his crash while dabbling with a distraction, but I suppose all these drives are adrenaline junkies and it's a very fine line between being on the edge and being over it!
I'd love to seem him back in F1 if he can be competitive and get the licence, etc.
I was gutted when I heard about his crash while dabbling with a distraction, but I suppose all these drives are adrenaline junkies and it's a very fine line between being on the edge and being over it!
I'd love to seem him back in F1 if he can be competitive and get the licence, etc.
Surely if he is going to drive something as fast as an F1 car, regardless of setting, he needs some sort of medical clearance? Surely Renault would not be naive enough to let him drive an F1 car with his past injury knowing that if he has a crash, the first thing that would happen is fingers pointed at Renault.
Saw this video here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Drb77HM59Bk
There's a few clips of him applying what looks like full lock on the steering wheel so looks like he's ok there?
Someone mentioned fiddling all the buttons, good point.
Hope he does come back, great driver.
And by fast, how fast exactly is he?
Saw this video here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Drb77HM59Bk
There's a few clips of him applying what looks like full lock on the steering wheel so looks like he's ok there?
Someone mentioned fiddling all the buttons, good point.
Hope he does come back, great driver.
And by fast, how fast exactly is he?
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