Sebastian Vettel
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HustleRussell said:
Ferrari put together a video message featuring both drivers saying how excited they were for the season to start. Charles Leclerc first- a bit wooden. Vettel's demeanor suggested that he was delivering the message at gunpoint from the comfort of the gulag.
maybe vettel finds new lust to destroy le clerc for the last few races could be interesting
plus he never listened to team orders before, let alone now ?
HighwayStar said:
jsf said:
KevinCamaroSS said:
He would have to catch him first.
He could always park his car in the pitbox long enough to stop CLC setting a time. 
He did it to be safe, apparently. His fastest quali lap time was certainly very safe after that trick!
I guess it is set up nicely for Ferrari drama once we finally do get back to racing since Vettel has announced he is off.
You will have Leclerc feeling like the team is his having beaten Vettel last season and since signed onto a long term deal. Then you have Vettel who knowing he is leaving the team isn't going to give two hoots about obeying orders or working with Leclerc.
Seb will be driving for Seb, not Ferrari. I expect to see a very punchy Vettel this season and I am looking forward to it.
It is set up perfectly for fireworks and I fully expect to see them come together at some point this season.
You will have Leclerc feeling like the team is his having beaten Vettel last season and since signed onto a long term deal. Then you have Vettel who knowing he is leaving the team isn't going to give two hoots about obeying orders or working with Leclerc.
Seb will be driving for Seb, not Ferrari. I expect to see a very punchy Vettel this season and I am looking forward to it.
It is set up perfectly for fireworks and I fully expect to see them come together at some point this season.
It would be trivially easy for Ferrari to hobble him if there was any danger at all that he was either not following orders, or at risk of compromising their number 1.
Let's not forget how even the slightest misconfiguration of an F1 car would translate to tenths of seconds lost, and an uncompetitive (relative to LeClerc) car, and it would not be at all obvious to an observer that it wasn't just Vettel being slow.
Let's not forget how even the slightest misconfiguration of an F1 car would translate to tenths of seconds lost, and an uncompetitive (relative to LeClerc) car, and it would not be at all obvious to an observer that it wasn't just Vettel being slow.
Durzel said:
It would be trivially easy for Ferrari to hobble him if there was any danger at all that he was either not following orders, or at risk of compromising their number 1.
Let's not forget how even the slightest misconfiguration of an F1 car would translate to tenths of seconds lost, and an uncompetitive (relative to LeClerc) car, and it would not be at all obvious to an observer that it wasn't just Vettel being slow.
They wouldn't pull that bizarre stunt for the simple reason that a slower car means a lower finishing position which means less points and less constructor prize money come the end of the year.Let's not forget how even the slightest misconfiguration of an F1 car would translate to tenths of seconds lost, and an uncompetitive (relative to LeClerc) car, and it would not be at all obvious to an observer that it wasn't just Vettel being slow.
They would only be hurting their own interests.
TwentyFive said:
Durzel said:
It would be trivially easy for Ferrari to hobble him if there was any danger at all that he was either not following orders, or at risk of compromising their number 1.
Let's not forget how even the slightest misconfiguration of an F1 car would translate to tenths of seconds lost, and an uncompetitive (relative to LeClerc) car, and it would not be at all obvious to an observer that it wasn't just Vettel being slow.
They wouldn't pull that bizarre stunt for the simple reason that a slower car means a lower finishing position which means less points and less constructor prize money come the end of the year.Let's not forget how even the slightest misconfiguration of an F1 car would translate to tenths of seconds lost, and an uncompetitive (relative to LeClerc) car, and it would not be at all obvious to an observer that it wasn't just Vettel being slow.
They would only be hurting their own interests.
According to Bottas, Mercedes not considering seb for 21.
I never thought they were and that Toto was just fuelling rumours for the sake oh headlines...
https://youtu.be/fhM0uRia8PY 8m onwards for contract chat.
I never thought they were and that Toto was just fuelling rumours for the sake oh headlines...
https://youtu.be/fhM0uRia8PY 8m onwards for contract chat.
Interesting that Vettel has now come out and said he never had any contract talks with Ferrari, he was just shown the door:
https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/53271660
Seems pretty harsh if true, but maybe they felt there was no chance of getting him to accept a formal number-two slot (which is almost certainly true) and they desperately didn't want their two drivers fighting on track. Certainly gives him little incentive to play-ball this year. If, as he says, he wants to continue in 2021, he has every reason to try to prove that Ferrari made the wrong decision dropping him so I can't see him rolling over for LeClerc. Not that Ferrari look likely to be able to challenge at the front from what we've seen so far.
I think one of two things could happen at Ferrari this year. Either LeClerc is so much faster than Vettel that they never really come into contact, or they constantly crash into each other.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/53271660
Seems pretty harsh if true, but maybe they felt there was no chance of getting him to accept a formal number-two slot (which is almost certainly true) and they desperately didn't want their two drivers fighting on track. Certainly gives him little incentive to play-ball this year. If, as he says, he wants to continue in 2021, he has every reason to try to prove that Ferrari made the wrong decision dropping him so I can't see him rolling over for LeClerc. Not that Ferrari look likely to be able to challenge at the front from what we've seen so far.
I think one of two things could happen at Ferrari this year. Either LeClerc is so much faster than Vettel that they never really come into contact, or they constantly crash into each other.
Edited by kambites on Friday 3rd July 08:07
kambites said:
Interesting that Vettel has now come out and said he never had any contract talks with Ferrari, he was just shown the door:
https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/53271660
Seems pretty harsh if true, but maybe they felt there was no chance of getting him to accept a formal number-two slot (which is almost certainly true) and they desperately didn't want their two drivers fighting on track. Certainly gives him little incentive to play-ball this year. If, as he says, he wants to continue in 2021, he has every reason to try to prove that Ferrari made the wrong decision dropping him so I can't see him rolling over for LeClerc. Not that Ferrari look likely to be able to challenge at the front from what we've seen so far.
I think one of two things could happen at Ferrari this year. Either LeClerc is so much faster than Vettel that they never really come into contact, or they constantly crash into each other.
i want to see Vettel give Ferrari a big FU and go for it, could be fun.https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/53271660
Seems pretty harsh if true, but maybe they felt there was no chance of getting him to accept a formal number-two slot (which is almost certainly true) and they desperately didn't want their two drivers fighting on track. Certainly gives him little incentive to play-ball this year. If, as he says, he wants to continue in 2021, he has every reason to try to prove that Ferrari made the wrong decision dropping him so I can't see him rolling over for LeClerc. Not that Ferrari look likely to be able to challenge at the front from what we've seen so far.
I think one of two things could happen at Ferrari this year. Either LeClerc is so much faster than Vettel that they never really come into contact, or they constantly crash into each other.
Edited by kambites on Friday 3rd July 08:07
kambites said:
Interesting that Vettel has now come out and said he never had any contract talks with Ferrari, he was just shown the door:
I think one of two things could happen at Ferrari this year. Either LeClerc is so much faster than Vettel that they never really come into contact, or they constantly crash into each other.
Interesting set of articles on this...I think one of two things could happen at Ferrari this year. Either LeClerc is so much faster than Vettel that they never really come into contact, or they constantly crash into each other.
Vettel’s revelation on Ferrari’s ‘phone call’
https://thejudge13.com/2020/07/02/vettels-revelati...
Vettel never offered new Ferrari deal, yet to hold talks on 2021 F1 drive
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/150283/vettel-wa...
Sebastian Vettel: This Formula One season could be my last
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/other-sports/seba...
Ferrari has a less competitive package - Vettel
https://www.f1technical.net/news/22552
IMHO, Sebastian Vettel will do his VERY best, to keep out of trouble with NO crashes, in an attempt to secure a drive somewhere else.
On a personal note, I would saddened if this means the end of Sebastian Vettel's career. It is not looking good at the moment...
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