Sebastian Vettel
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Byker28i said:
wevster said:
AJB88 said:
Reports of Vettel helping to clear rubbish from the stands after the race.
Most productive thing he did all day…Killer2005 said:
Byker28i said:
AJB88 said:
Reports of Vettel helping to clear rubbish from the stands after the race.
https://www.theindianpaper.com/british-gp-vettel-picks-up-rubbish-in-the-stands-after-the-race/I don’t follow him as a driver, but they are both positive attributes in my book.
Killer2005 said:
Byker28i said:
wevster said:
AJB88 said:
Reports of Vettel helping to clear rubbish from the stands after the race.
Most productive thing he did all day…HustleRussell said:
Vettel had a number of spins of this kind in the Ferrari. Is this his first in the Aston Martin?
He appears to still drive as though he has a blown diffuser.
He drives like a driver trying hard and sometimes trying too hard. In the RB his car was so superior that he rarely needed to push limits. Its the same with LH. He appears to still drive as though he has a blown diffuser.
HustleRussell said:
Vettel had a number of spins of this kind in the Ferrari. Is this his first in the Aston Martin?
He appears to still drive as though he has a blown diffuser.
Many of his spins occur in a very similar way, when he's closely alongside another car exiting a medium speed corner. He's not the only one who's done it, but he seems to do it more than most. I think it was Danny Ricc. who had a similar spin once, and he commented afterwards that he'd 'done a Vettel'. He also said he thought it might have been caused by aerodynamic interference from the other car alongside, possibly interrupting the side vortex and partially stalling the diffuser. I'm not an aerodynamicist, so that could be gibberish for all I know. Maybe he just gets overexcited when he's alongside another car and presses the go pedal too hard.He appears to still drive as though he has a blown diffuser.
HustleRussell said:
Vettel had a number of spins of this kind in the Ferrari. Is this his first in the Aston Martin?
He appears to still drive as though he has a blown diffuser.
I think you're on to something there - a blown diffuser requires a counter-intuitive driving style, the driver has to get on the throttle to increase the engine revs, and therefore the volume of exhaust gases, passing through and energising the diffuser.He appears to still drive as though he has a blown diffuser.
With this generation of cars not having any exhaust gases in the vicinity of the diffuser, and far torquier engines producing more power lower in the rev range, applying the throttle with low downforce generated by the diffuser will unstick the rear.
Yet Vettel has been driving this generation of car for seven and a bit seasons. You would think that an intelligent driver such as he would have got the hang of this by now.
Dermot O'Logical said:
I think you're on to something there - a blown diffuser requires a counter-intuitive driving style, the driver has to get on the throttle to increase the engine revs, and therefore the volume of exhaust gases, passing through and energising the diffuser.
With this generation of cars not having any exhaust gases in the vicinity of the diffuser, and far torquier engines producing more power lower in the rev range, applying the throttle with low downforce generated by the diffuser will unstick the rear.
Yet Vettel has been driving this generation of car for seven and a bit seasons. You would think that an intelligent driver such as he would have got the hang of this by now.
He may suit next year's car with the ground effect though, as it will be less affected by other cars. A bit more traction for him. With this generation of cars not having any exhaust gases in the vicinity of the diffuser, and far torquier engines producing more power lower in the rev range, applying the throttle with low downforce generated by the diffuser will unstick the rear.
Yet Vettel has been driving this generation of car for seven and a bit seasons. You would think that an intelligent driver such as he would have got the hang of this by now.
Dermot O'Logical said:
I think you're on to something there - a blown diffuser requires a counter-intuitive driving style, the driver has to get on the throttle to increase the engine revs, and therefore the volume of exhaust gases, passing through and energising the diffuser.
With this generation of cars not having any exhaust gases in the vicinity of the diffuser, and far torquier engines producing more power lower in the rev range, applying the throttle with low downforce generated by the diffuser will unstick the rear.
Yet Vettel has been driving this generation of car for seven and a bit seasons. You would think that an intelligent driver such as he would have got the hang of this by now.
I think it is more likely to be an aerodynamic instability / unpredictability for the AM under certain conditions causing a sudden separation of airflow.With this generation of cars not having any exhaust gases in the vicinity of the diffuser, and far torquier engines producing more power lower in the rev range, applying the throttle with low downforce generated by the diffuser will unstick the rear.
Yet Vettel has been driving this generation of car for seven and a bit seasons. You would think that an intelligent driver such as he would have got the hang of this by now.
AJB88 said:
cgt2 said:
Vettel was in the grandstands after the race helping to clear up the mountain of rubbish people left behind. Down to earth guy.
I like how hes quite a private bloke outside of F1, also hes into Motorbikes. I'd 100% have a few beers with him. ..although when I did first hear he was spotted picking up rubbish in the stands my first thought was: Mental Breakdown?!.. or Punishment by Stroll Srn?!
Steamer said:
He's funny too...
..although when I did first hear he was spotted picking up rubbish in the stands my first thought was: Mental Breakdown?!.. or Punishment by Stroll Srn?!
Yeh, I've seen him on British, German and Italian TV and always comes across with a good sense of humour. ..although when I did first hear he was spotted picking up rubbish in the stands my first thought was: Mental Breakdown?!.. or Punishment by Stroll Srn?!
It could be punishment but doubt it.
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