watching F1 abroad via sky Go

watching F1 abroad via sky Go

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hairyben

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8,516 posts

183 months

Saturday 1st July 2017
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Thanks for the tips, will install a couple to try

rscott said:
Sky have been working on VPN detection - several reports on their forum and elsewhere that some of the big providers no longer work...
Why are sky that bothered? Yes they have a regional license and no doubt a requiremnt to police it to some degree but is a few ex pats and holidaymakers using paid subscriptions ruining anyones business model?

rscott

14,746 posts

191 months

Saturday 1st July 2017
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hairyben said:
Thanks for the tips, will install a couple to try

rscott said:
Sky have been working on VPN detection - several reports on their forum and elsewhere that some of the big providers no longer work...
Why are sky that bothered? Yes they have a regional license and no doubt a requiremnt to police it to some degree but is a few ex pats and holidaymakers using paid subscriptions ruining anyones business model?
Because they get pressure from the content providers to do so. Remember how long it took before Fox would even allow the Simpsons to be streamed?

rdjohn

6,175 posts

195 months

Sunday 2nd July 2017
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rscott said:
hairyben said:
Thanks for the tips, will install a couple to try

rscott said:
Sky have been working on VPN detection - several reports on their forum and elsewhere that some of the big providers no longer work...
Why are sky that bothered? Yes they have a regional license and no doubt a requiremnt to police it to some degree but is a few ex pats and holidaymakers using paid subscriptions ruining anyones business model?
Because they get pressure from the content providers to do so. Remember how long it took before Fox would even allow the Simpsons to be streamed?
It is something that the EU failed to get a grip of. Technology runs way faster than politics.

If you buy a product, you expect to have freedom of movement. Services, is very heavyly regulated, but with copyright, they have not begun to scratch the surface. If you have paid for the content, it should be available to enjoy anywhere in Europe.

Having failed to act quickly, pirated streams have become widely available.

HardtopManual

2,427 posts

166 months

Sunday 2nd July 2017
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rdjohn said:
Having failed to act quickly, pirated streams have become widely available.
The media companies fail to see that this impacts their own incomes. When I spent a few months in Spain last year, I cancelled my monthly NowTV Sky Sports pass (because I couldn't get it to work even with a private VPN) and simply BitTorrented the full Sky race packages the day after the race.

I'd rather have paid the money and watched the races live, but that wasn't an option, so I stopped paying money to Sky.

rscott

14,746 posts

191 months

Sunday 2nd July 2017
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rdjohn said:
rscott said:
hairyben said:
Thanks for the tips, will install a couple to try

rscott said:
Sky have been working on VPN detection - several reports on their forum and elsewhere that some of the big providers no longer work...
Why are sky that bothered? Yes they have a regional license and no doubt a requiremnt to police it to some degree but is a few ex pats and holidaymakers using paid subscriptions ruining anyones business model?
Because they get pressure from the content providers to do so. Remember how long it took before Fox would even allow the Simpsons to be streamed?
It is something that the EU failed to get a grip of. Technology runs way faster than politics.

If you buy a product, you expect to have freedom of movement. Services, is very heavyly regulated, but with copyright, they have not begun to scratch the surface. If you have paid for the content, it should be available to enjoy anywhere in Europe.

Having failed to act quickly, pirated streams have become widely available.
The EU have made some rulings regarding streaming availability across the EU but they're unlikely to be in place before we leave.
They could have gone for the easier digital services years ago (why does an iTunes purchase cost more in the UK than France...)

hairyben

Original Poster:

8,516 posts

183 months

Sunday 2nd July 2017
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rdjohn said:
It is something that the EU failed to get a grip of. Technology runs way faster than politics.

If you buy a product, you expect to have freedom of movement. Services, is very heavyly regulated, but with copyright, they have not begun to scratch the surface. If you have paid for the content, it should be available to enjoy anywhere in Europe.

Having failed to act quickly, pirated streams have become widely available.
motoGP.com subscription costs half in europe what it does in the uk, and checks you ip location when you buy to ascertain this. Once you buy it you can use it wherever you like though.

Great things, vpn's

CraigyMc

16,392 posts

236 months

Sunday 2nd July 2017
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rscott said:
The EU have made some rulings regarding streaming availability across the EU but they're unlikely to be in place before we leave.
They could have gone for the easier digital services years ago (why does an iTunes purchase cost more in the UK than France...)
Depending on the terms of brexit, it's entirely feasible that the UK will have to abide by new EU regs going forward anyway, just as Switzerland and Norway have to.

Boylston

145 posts

191 months

Monday 3rd July 2017
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I regularly use skygo abroad to watch F1 whils travelling for work.

I have a VPN server setup at home and a laptop using a HDMI connection to the TV. Works super well.

Simon

LocoBlade

7,622 posts

256 months

Tuesday 4th July 2017
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As well as those mentioned above, a couple of other things I found helped getting TV apps to work when VPN'ing in from abroad, some were hit and miss so I'm not entirely sure if they helped or not but worth a try. The first I'm guessing is only available on Android devices as Apple tends to restrict stuff like this a lot more:

  • Use a mock location app so the Android device gives the app a UK GPS location, I used "Fake GPS" from the Play Store, you need Developer Options enabled on your phone to enable it, then set Location Detection to "Device Only" so it doesn't use WiFi and phone mast triangulation as well.
  • Manually set DNS servers in your network setttings to UK based DNS servers, e.g use your own ISP's servers or just google "UK DNS Servers"
  • Turn Data Roaming off but leave data on
  • Reinstall the app if it didnt work first time, I found with a couple (All 4 and I think iPlayer) that they seemed to cache the location prior to trying some of the above and only worked again after an uninstall / reinstall.


Supersam83

606 posts

145 months

Wednesday 5th July 2017
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I use VyprVPN

https://www.goldenfrog.com/vyprvpn

They also make it so easy with Apps for iOS and Android and desktop programs as all so you don't need to set anything up.

HoHoHo

14,987 posts

250 months

Saturday 15th July 2017
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Just watched the qualifying whilst in Antigua.

VPN through the office and even with poor wifi speed no issues aside from the odd blurry moment. Sky isn't currently blocking VPN use.

Not sure why but it has a different feel when the temperature is 30 and you're overlooking a sandy bay smile

Well done Lewis and I also had a little chuckle when FA had his moment thumbup

rscott

14,746 posts

191 months

Saturday 15th July 2017
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HoHoHo said:
Just watched the qualifying whilst in Antigua.

VPN through the office and even with poor wifi speed no issues aside from the odd blurry moment. Sky isn't currently blocking VPN use.

Not sure why but it has a different feel when the temperature is 30 and you're overlooking a sandy bay smile

Well done Lewis and I also had a little chuckle when FA had his moment thumbup
They seem to be targeting users of commercial VPN /smart DNS services rather than users connecting via corporate/home VPN. Presumably they're detecting and blocking the IP ranges used by those providers.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

30,254 posts

235 months

Saturday 22nd July 2017
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Just used Norton vpn whilst in France, Austria and Italy. Was able to watch Sky Go everywhere except for one hotel where Norton would not connect.

Didn't make the F1 any less dull though!

Vaud

50,447 posts

155 months

Saturday 22nd July 2017
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HardtopManual said:
and simply BitTorrented the full Sky race packages the day after the race.
If you follow the Reddit threads there is a Google drive trick which avoids the need for torrents - direct download.

RammyMP

6,768 posts

153 months

Sunday 23rd July 2017
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I'm in Portugal at the moment, Sky Go is working via Tunnel Bear.

GCH

3,991 posts

202 months

Sunday 23rd July 2017
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Sky have made it such a mission to watch on my mac.... I have to install their software (which makes it run very hot indeed) , then activate my VPN.

Despite paying for sky, it is quicker and easier to just watch it via an HD streaming site.

CraigyMc

16,392 posts

236 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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GCH said:
Sky have made it such a mission to watch on my mac.... I have to install their software (which makes it run very hot indeed) , then activate my VPN.

Despite paying for sky, it is quicker and easier to just watch it via an HD streaming site.
Process to fix that, on mac:
http://community.sky.com/t5/Sky-Go-Apps/New-Sky-go...

Edited by CraigyMc on Monday 24th July 09:37