Max Verstappen
Discussion
kambites said:
I'm sure he's capable of learning the other skills he'll need but thus far there seems to be every indication that he's not willing to even acknowledge that he doesn't already have them.
Problem is it seems that he is not told when he has done wrong, until Red Bull and his dad sit him down and tell him, then nothing will change. He is in danger of being a wasted talent; will any other team want to take him on with the attitude and seemingly lack of guidance from his family/management that he has!
HTP99 said:
kambites said:
I'm sure he's capable of learning the other skills he'll need but thus far there seems to be every indication that he's not willing to even acknowledge that he doesn't already have them.
Problem is it seems that he is not told when he has done wrong, until Red Bull and his dad sit him down and tell him, then nothing will change. He is in danger of being a wasted talent; will any other team want to take him on with the attitude and seemingly lack of guidance from his family/management that he has!
MV: I will not change my approach
(Visibly changes approach for the remainder of the season and as a result makes fewer mistakes)
MV: I didn't change my approach
HustleRussell said:
HTP99 said:
kambites said:
I'm sure he's capable of learning the other skills he'll need but thus far there seems to be every indication that he's not willing to even acknowledge that he doesn't already have them.
Problem is it seems that he is not told when he has done wrong, until Red Bull and his dad sit him down and tell him, then nothing will change. He is in danger of being a wasted talent; will any other team want to take him on with the attitude and seemingly lack of guidance from his family/management that he has!
MV: I will not change my approach
(Visibly changes approach for the remainder of the season and as a result makes fewer mistakes)
MV: I didn't change my approach
MV's driving has certainly changed since Monaco. Less overdriving has been noticeable.
If the Honda PU isn't close to Merc/Ferrari he won't be winning any races.
sparta6 said:
HustleRussell said:
HTP99 said:
kambites said:
I'm sure he's capable of learning the other skills he'll need but thus far there seems to be every indication that he's not willing to even acknowledge that he doesn't already have them.
Problem is it seems that he is not told when he has done wrong, until Red Bull and his dad sit him down and tell him, then nothing will change. He is in danger of being a wasted talent; will any other team want to take him on with the attitude and seemingly lack of guidance from his family/management that he has!
MV: I will not change my approach
(Visibly changes approach for the remainder of the season and as a result makes fewer mistakes)
MV: I didn't change my approach
MV's driving has certainly changed since Monaco. Less overdriving has been noticeable.
If the Honda PU isn't close to Merc/Ferrari he won't be winning any races.
I would imagine there will be a time when he will reflect and think there were races where, had he done things differently, he would have gained more points along the way and certainly picked up an extra win in Brazil. I don't believe that no one would've have said to him, if he'd just played it smarter he'd have been atop the podium. Maybe out of the car he knows what he needs to do, in the race.. impulsive.
I'm not a fan of his but it's obvious he has all the talent he needs to bag WDCs if thought things through and chose his battles.
Drew106 said:
In fairness to Max, it took Lewis quite a few years to mature too.
They are similar in some ways, both came into the sport with big hype, awesome speed and undeniable talent. But a little stupid at times.
I think Max is probably a bit more 'hot-headed' than Lewis ever was, but if he can dial that back he'll be a hard man to beat. It is always easier to slow someone down, than speed them up
Lewis did his learning with a WDC on his CV and one very near miss the year before. These were done when cars were actually quick for the whole race rather than the first 3-laps.They are similar in some ways, both came into the sport with big hype, awesome speed and undeniable talent. But a little stupid at times.
I think Max is probably a bit more 'hot-headed' than Lewis ever was, but if he can dial that back he'll be a hard man to beat. It is always easier to slow someone down, than speed them up
I think the problem now is that, rather than be an instinctive racer like Karting, they now spend way too much time thinking about what needs to be conserved moment to moment.
Ocon breezed up and suddenly Max goes back to Karter mode.
HustleRussell said:
Listened to Pierre Gasly's beyond the grid podcast the other day. Mark my words there will be Max & Pierre fireworks next year. Pierre sounds like he has a fiery temperament and previous for falling out with people, but says he'll get on with Max so long as Max respects him (!)
I'm sure there is history there and I seem to remember surprise at Gasly's RBR appointment due to that history.HTP99 said:
HustleRussell said:
Listened to Pierre Gasly's beyond the grid podcast the other day. Mark my words there will be Max & Pierre fireworks next year. Pierre sounds like he has a fiery temperament and previous for falling out with people, but says he'll get on with Max so long as Max respects him (!)
I'm sure there is history there and I seem to remember surprise at Gasly's RBR appointment due to that history.Either way, I can't wait for MV to realise he's not the best kid on the grid in a fast car.... Leclerc!!!! I'd also pay money to watch Ocon in a Merc taking it too MV. I think Mercedes are at risk of having a booring line up!!
I wonder as well, if the Honda is more powerfull than the Tag Heur aka Renault, whether the RB will start chewing it's tyres up a bit more. Can't help but feel a less powerfull engine is benefitting the RBR chassis and giving it better tyre wear... less torque etc?
Deesee said:
That is brilliant... DRic just cool. Nah, I don't need to go again. Cool.To be fair to Max, they are all competitive, none would want to lose and certainly not come across has hopeless as he obviously did there.
HighwayStar said:
Deesee said:
That is brilliant... DRic just cool. Nah, I don't need to go again. Cool.To be fair to Max, they are all competitive, none would want to lose and certainly not come across has hopeless as he obviously did there.
Whilst Max keeps listening to people tell him he is the greatest thing since sliced bread he will not be a World Drivers Champion.He needs to be further up the grid at the start avoiding a mad dash that's all very entertaining but will not always turn out well for him.
He also has Danny Ric to get past today and I am sure Danny won't be in the mood to let him.
He also has Danny Ric to get past today and I am sure Danny won't be in the mood to let him.
His still got another 15 years probably in F1 yet. He will get more patient with age. For sure will be an F1 champ. His already changed his approach if you look at the first half of this season to the end of the season. His in a car that really should be 5th\6th, yet his constantly getting it on the podium and should have had 2 wins back to back.
Pretty sure he will get past Ricciardo today. I think the Mercs in Abu Dhabi will be untouchable today though
Its a long shot but he still could be 3rd in the Championship. just a few points from leap frogging Bottas but Abu Dhabi is a good track for Bottas so would be hard to beat.
Pretty sure he will get past Ricciardo today. I think the Mercs in Abu Dhabi will be untouchable today though
Its a long shot but he still could be 3rd in the Championship. just a few points from leap frogging Bottas but Abu Dhabi is a good track for Bottas so would be hard to beat.
Edited by 95 fiesta si on Sunday 25th November 11:36
Gassing Station | Formula 1 | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff