Max Verstappen
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kiseca said:
sparta6 said:
kiseca said:
sparta6 said:
WickerBill said:
95 fiesta si said:
Id be whiny too if i was right on the edge of success but not quite making it, must be frustrating. Merc boys have had nothing to moan about the last 7 years
Really? They’ve had several rule changes specifically designed to outlaw items they’ve come up with and slow them down...instead of whining they’ve just got on with the jobThey won 6 constructors titles in a row. That's a fact. It means for those six years, they had the best overall package.
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I say that as a Mika fan.
Then McLaren and Kimi kept Ferrari honest.
Then the FIA changed tyre regs for Michelin runners. Cue Alonso.
Good battles at the front
Except for 2001.
kiseca said:
OK, we're repeating ourselves. Cool with that.
Fact: Ferrari won 6 constructors titles in a row. They used two drivers to do this, not just one.
Speculation: what you said above.
2 things baffle me about SpartaFact: Ferrari won 6 constructors titles in a row. They used two drivers to do this, not just one.
Speculation: what you said above.
1) That he manages to turn ANY thread into a thread about Lewis Hamilton.....it’s almost like he has a man crush.
2) That Sparta continually uses the Dominant Ferrari team, with a dominant car for 6 years as a way to diminish Lewis’s achievements while putting Schumacher and Ferrari on some sort of pedestal!
The paths of both ferrari/ schumacher and Mercedes/ Hamilton are virtually identical over their years together with the FIA stepping in to both teams, trying to slow them down and alter the pecking order.
It astonishes me how Sparta can try and twist it any other way
Wills2 said:
Horner is a character and we need them it makes it all interesting, I noted that everyone seemed far too on message this weekend, I want to see some emotion and a bit of grit/tension as it makes the sport and if they lose that they will lose a very important part of the sport.
I think both front runners were genuinely happy, rather than just being on message. Mercedes didn't expect to win this, so were really happy with the victory. RB were disappointed about the loss, but have caught up and perhaps overtaken Mercedes this season, so are happy with how the season is looking. Horner is a bit whiny in the shortened videos, but when more chatting away it's clear he knows it but he is happy to do anything to get an advantage for his team. Part of that strategy is public perception and guiding the dialogue direction in the media if possible. I think Toto does stuff for Merc, but tends to do it more behind closed doors (the "unproven" Ferrari engine cheat as one example).
WickerBill said:
2 things baffle me about Sparta
1) That he manages to turn ANY thread into a thread about Lewis Hamilton.....it’s almost like he has a man crush.
2) That Sparta continually uses the Dominant Ferrari team, with a dominant car for 6 years as a way to diminish Lewis’s achievements while putting Schumacher and Ferrari on some sort of pedestal!
The paths of both ferrari/ schumacher and Mercedes/ Hamilton are virtually identical over their years together with the FIA stepping in to both teams, trying to slow them down and alter the pecking order.
It astonishes me how Sparta can try and twist it any other way
You're over-thinking 1) That he manages to turn ANY thread into a thread about Lewis Hamilton.....it’s almost like he has a man crush.
2) That Sparta continually uses the Dominant Ferrari team, with a dominant car for 6 years as a way to diminish Lewis’s achievements while putting Schumacher and Ferrari on some sort of pedestal!
The paths of both ferrari/ schumacher and Mercedes/ Hamilton are virtually identical over their years together with the FIA stepping in to both teams, trying to slow them down and alter the pecking order.
It astonishes me how Sparta can try and twist it any other way
NRS said:
Wills2 said:
Horner is a character and we need them it makes it all interesting, I noted that everyone seemed far too on message this weekend, I want to see some emotion and a bit of grit/tension as it makes the sport and if they lose that they will lose a very important part of the sport.
I think both front runners were genuinely happy, rather than just being on message. Mercedes didn't expect to win this, so were really happy with the victory. RB were disappointed about the loss, but have caught up and perhaps overtaken Mercedes this season, so are happy with how the season is looking. Horner is a bit whiny in the shortened videos, but when more chatting away it's clear he knows it but he is happy to do anything to get an advantage for his team. Part of that strategy is public perception and guiding the dialogue direction in the media if possible. I think Toto does stuff for Merc, but tends to do it more behind closed doors (the "unproven" Ferrari engine cheat as one example).
For some reason Domenicali had told everyone no complaining in public...which is piss poor if they are going to do that and hide the sporting needle that we all know exists in the paddock then we lose an interesting edge to the championship.
sparta6 said:
Sure. But in all other sports teams are allowed to practice and develop.
In this instance Mercedes had a massive head start and other teams were prohibited from catching up.
Mercedes didn’t have a head start at all. They were given the exact same info at the same time as all the other teams. In this instance Mercedes had a massive head start and other teams were prohibited from catching up.
Masterclass by max today in difficult conditions.
Could be his year, everyone saying RB is the fastest car but it’s certainly not the most reliable. Look back over the last 7 years the mercs have been bullet proof, this could be the undoing for RB and Max this year in his fight with Lewis
Could be his year, everyone saying RB is the fastest car but it’s certainly not the most reliable. Look back over the last 7 years the mercs have been bullet proof, this could be the undoing for RB and Max this year in his fight with Lewis
I only followed the race on the radio but I got the impression that Max and Lewis are the class of the pack and operating on a slightly different level to the rest.
The same as Senna/Prost, Schumacher/Hakkinen, Schumacher/Alonso, etc
Good times for the sport. A compressed midfield, some tracks that continue to challenge the drivers and weather throwing in a few variables.
The same as Senna/Prost, Schumacher/Hakkinen, Schumacher/Alonso, etc
Good times for the sport. A compressed midfield, some tracks that continue to challenge the drivers and weather throwing in a few variables.
sandman77 said:
sparta6 said:
Sure. But in all other sports teams are allowed to practice and develop.
In this instance Mercedes had a massive head start and other teams were prohibited from catching up.
Mercedes didn’t have a head start at all. They were given the exact same info at the same time as all the other teams. In this instance Mercedes had a massive head start and other teams were prohibited from catching up.
What about the other teams ?
sparta6 said:
sandman77 said:
sparta6 said:
Sure. But in all other sports teams are allowed to practice and develop.
In this instance Mercedes had a massive head start and other teams were prohibited from catching up.
Mercedes didn’t have a head start at all. They were given the exact same info at the same time as all the other teams. In this instance Mercedes had a massive head start and other teams were prohibited from catching up.
What about the other teams ?
MustangGT said:
sparta6 said:
sandman77 said:
sparta6 said:
Sure. But in all other sports teams are allowed to practice and develop.
In this instance Mercedes had a massive head start and other teams were prohibited from catching up.
Mercedes didn’t have a head start at all. They were given the exact same info at the same time as all the other teams. In this instance Mercedes had a massive head start and other teams were prohibited from catching up.
What about the other teams ?
It’s all in his mind, poor fella.
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