The Official 2017 US Grand Prix Thread **Spoilers**

The Official 2017 US Grand Prix Thread **Spoilers**

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SeeFive

8,280 posts

233 months

Friday 20th October 2017
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amgmcqueen said:
A Ferrari 1-2 with a Hamilton DNF would be most welcome for the Championship.
Not in this household.

The only acceptable alternative to Lewis extending his lead over Seb in the championship here is a result that no ferraris or mercs finish, and red bull get a 1-2.

...or anything except for a Ferrari still being in the championship hunt. When they stop demanding unfair financial (read competitive) advantage over other teams just because "they are Ferrari", then I may begin to view them differently. I am not holding my breath on that...

louiechevy

645 posts

193 months

Friday 20th October 2017
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ELUSIVEJIM said:
Jesus mate.

Hope things are back to normal for you now and no lasting complications.
Yep fine now thanks, looking forward to the race as I have all the races I've watched over the last forty five ish years!! Don't really mind who wins I just enjoy formula one for what it is, even the boring races.

Sylvaforever

2,212 posts

98 months

Friday 20th October 2017
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jsf said:
On his f1 debut Hartley starts at the back of the grid due to engine penalties.

It really is a farcical situation.

Try explaining that to the thousands of new spectators in NZ that this driver will have added.
Safest place for him! (going from his comments on the drivers confrence)

99dndd

2,081 posts

89 months

Friday 20th October 2017
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Sylvaforever said:
jsf said:
On his f1 debut Hartley starts at the back of the grid due to engine penalties.

It really is a farcical situation.

Try explaining that to the thousands of new spectators in NZ that this driver will have added.
Safest place for him! (going from his comments on the drivers confrence)
As long as he remembers to stay in the car at pit stops he'll be OK.

Evilex

512 posts

104 months

Friday 20th October 2017
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Derek Smith said:
janesmith1950 said:
Yeah, some of the F1 drivers should.do some F2 races. What could possibly go wrong?
There was a race of team managers, back in the 70s, all in Escorts, possibly Mexicos. It was at Brands. It was fabulous.

From memory, Chapman led to the last lap but didn't make it through Clearways.

Bring that one back. It was all the crowd were talking about.

Or, as it is over 40 years ago, I could have got it all mixed up in my mind.

EDITED TO ADD:

I've found it on YouTube. Funny, I thought it was at a GP. Also, the race isn't quite what I remembered. I won't spoil it for you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvnNd1sCHa0

Well worth ten minutes of your life. The commentary is 'sparkling' as well, with the dry wit of G. Hill.

Also, you can see me in the crowd at Clearways.



Edited by Derek Smith on Wednesday 18th October 20:57
I attended a "Williams Day" at the Hatch in which Mansell ruined lots of tyres and clutches doing doughnuts in his F1 car (probably the spare)
Then various team members raced each other in new (then) XR3i Escorts.
Patrick Head and Nigels had bits missing by the time they were out of Paddock Hill Bend on lap1.

They should do this sort of thing more often. Imagine Wolff, Horner and Arrivabene racing each other....

thegreenhell

15,285 posts

219 months

Friday 20th October 2017
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Evilex said:
They should do this sort of thing more often. Imagine Wolff, Horner and Arrivabene racing each other....
The problem with the manufacturers involved these days is that they'd never agree which car to use for something like this.

Mr_Thyroid

1,995 posts

227 months

Friday 20th October 2017
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Who's the team boss with the best racing pedigree? - I know Horner did F3000 and Wolff a bit of DTM or something but I don't know about any of the others.

angrymoby

2,613 posts

178 months

Friday 20th October 2017
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thegreenhell said:
The problem with the manufacturers involved these days is that they'd never agree which car to use for something like this.
you could use all the manufacturer's & have 4 races, but still one make specific ...& maybe link it to manufacturer's 'home' races? so grid full of Honda's at Suzuka, Ferrari's at Monza, bit more tricky with Merc & Renault- maybe Austria & Spa

p1stonhead

25,529 posts

167 months

Friday 20th October 2017
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What a welcome for Hartley - 25 place grid penalty for car engine change....


fk sake.

FourWheelDrift

88,494 posts

284 months

Friday 20th October 2017
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Mr_Thyroid said:
Who's the team boss with the best racing pedigree? - I know Horner did F3000 and Wolff a bit of DTM or something but I don't know about any of the others.
Horner, then Wolff then Tost.

Christian Horner - F3 / F3000 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Horner#Dri...
Toto Wolff - Junior Formula and 24hrs wins - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toto_Wolff#Motorspor...
Franz Tost - Junior Formula - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Tost
Frank Williams - bit of driving, mechanic successful team owner - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Williams_(Form...
Frédéric Vasseur - successful junior team boss, co-founded ART - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fr%C3%A9d%C3%A9ric_V...
Gunther Steiner - mechanic and successful WRC management - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guenther_Steiner
Eric Boullier - engineering - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89ric_Boullier
Vijay Mallya - beer - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vijay_Mallya#Persona...
Maurizio Arrivabene - fags - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurizio_Arrivabene

Mr_Thyroid

1,995 posts

227 months

Friday 20th October 2017
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p1stonhead said:
What a welcome for Hartley - 25 place grid penalty for car engine change....


fk sake.
In reality if it's anything more than 8 places he'll have done very well. I hope the team let him show what he can do in qualifying rather than saving the new unit for the race.

thegreenhell

15,285 posts

219 months

Friday 20th October 2017
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angrymoby said:
you could use all the manufacturer's & have 4 races, but still one make specific ...& maybe link it to manufacturer's 'home' races? so grid full of Honda's at Suzuka, Ferrari's at Monza, bit more tricky with Merc & Renault- maybe Austria & Spa
Germany and France are both back on the calendar next year.

angrymoby

2,613 posts

178 months

Friday 20th October 2017
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thegreenhell said:
Germany and France are both back on the calendar next year.
job. jobbed biggrin

thegreenhell

15,285 posts

219 months

Friday 20th October 2017
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Dr Z said:
thegreenhell said:
Who is actually subbing for whom? Is Kvyat deemed to be back in his original car, so Hartley is actually taking over Sainz's car, or is Harltey subbing for Gasley, who in turn replaced Kvyat, and Kvyat is coming back in Sainz's car? How this is determined will surely have an effect on tyre allocations and PU component usage?
Classic! I don't have a clue, but I'm guessing Kvyat will take over Sainz's PU allocation, with Hartley taking over Gasly's PU allocation, which was originally Kvyat's!

The current PU allocation is about the same for both TR cars, but Kvyat went though engines quite quickly on to his 5th components, with Sainz taking penalties to take his fifth last race. So, Kvyat should now have a fresher engine to play with?!

No split in the tyre allocations between the drivers, so that should be easy.
Well yes, it seems that Kvyat is in Sainz's old car, and working with his engineer and mechanics, while poor Hartley in the ex-Kvyat/Gasley car gets the PU penalty that was largely accumulated by his teammate! You couldn't make it up...

FourWheelDrift

88,494 posts

284 months

Friday 20th October 2017
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Ted having a rant at Crofty. hehe

Doink

1,652 posts

147 months

Friday 20th October 2017
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Yes I thought that, Ted putting him in his place big time, that's why your not in charge of entertainment at liberty media ha ha

Gary C

12,411 posts

179 months

Friday 20th October 2017
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Hum, ted seems pissed at crofty, seems he dosent like him much wink

DickyC

49,700 posts

198 months

Friday 20th October 2017
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It's all over.



Verstappen given a huge advantage by being given an Internal Combustion Engine. They'll all want one now.

/bbc sport

Doink

1,652 posts

147 months

Friday 20th October 2017
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I've sensed something brewing between them since midseason, definitely something there

Oldwolf

932 posts

193 months

Friday 20th October 2017
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angrymoby said:
you could use all the manufacturer's & have 4 races, but still one make specific ...& maybe link it to manufacturer's 'home' races? so grid full of Honda's at Suzuka, Ferrari's at Monza, bit more tricky with Merc & Renault- maybe Austria & Spa
It would never work....
It's a great idea and the fans would enjoy it. smile