New car reveals

New car reveals

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Buzz84

1,145 posts

149 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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HighwayStar said:
Renault have always said the supply identical spec packages to all their teams. Mercedes haven’t done this. I’ve always thought it strange that a team could be legitimately hamstrung by their engine supplier. Glad to see this new directive come in, it should never have been needed.
Renault only supply the power unit lump to customer teams, they don't supply or design the ancillaries/attachments required, like the radiators and piping, intakes and exhaust. so when its all integrated into the final car its far from identical for all teams.

Mercedes are the same. The first year of the current turbo engines they used a "log" style exhaust while Mclaren designed a traditional "tubular" exhaust for their customer unit - obviously the Mercedes designed exhaust specifically for the Mercedes engine worked far better.

Buzz84

1,145 posts

149 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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I see Wall-E in the engine air intake




anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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ash73 said:
Beautiful cool

Love Alonso's helmet livery too, joined up thinking!
I am actually praying the McLaren can be up near the front.

Piginapoke

4,760 posts

185 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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After all that claptrap about the 1990s McLaren Hondas, I must admit i would like them to finish behind Torro Rosso.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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It's interesting with such a bright colour that the halo seems far less intrusive on the overall look of the car out on track.

It's looks great in the photos on track, i think McLaren have won the good looks race.

Just from the initial videos it seems like a completely different team, Fred cant stop smiling. biggrin

pits

6,429 posts

190 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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Norfolkit

2,394 posts

190 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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ash73 said:
Dr Z said:
Beautiful cool

Love Alonso's helmet livery too, joined up thinking!
Don't like the Sonic the Hedgehog arrangement on top of the sidepods.

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

152 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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Dr Z said:
On track:

Looks fabulous there, the colours pop out against the track nicely - it’s much more cohesive and flattering than the studio photos

HustleRussell

24,690 posts

160 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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pits said:
Alonso’s ego is going to be monstrous, It seems McLaren will do anything to retain him- they’ve changed engine suppliers and even painted the car to match his helmet.

rubystone

11,252 posts

259 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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kambites said:
And presumably their oil/coolant/etc. specs? Or it might just mean the engine needs to respond the same way if the customer's ECU sends it the same signals that the Mercedes one does.
Aren’t the. ECUs all a standard unit supplied by. McLaren?

Dr Murdoch

3,444 posts

135 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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HustleRussell said:
Alonso’s ego is going to be monstrous, It seems McLaren will do anything to retain him- they’ve changed engine suppliers and even painted the car to match his helmet.
Alonso needs to see a doctor eek

biggrin


bobbo89

5,210 posts

145 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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pits said:
That Petrobras patch on his suit is so obviously a last minute stitch on job!

NRS

22,143 posts

201 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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I think it looks the best in terms of colour scheme. That said, I do have an identical colour scheme for my ski stuff! They also copied the very very dark purple for the P1 from my MX-5 too, so seems I may have to have words, hehe

Seems to have a lot of little details in parts that other cars don't have (tops of pods, the cut-away down the side). Rake seems to be high from the pic, much more RB style than Merc. The packaging at the back seems to be less tight than Merc in a general comparison, but not seen any overlapping pics etc.

kambites

67,556 posts

221 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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rubystone said:
Aren’t the. ECUs all a standard unit supplied by. McLaren?
The hardware is. I assumed they wrote their own firmware?

ghost83

5,477 posts

190 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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I’m looking forward to testing now tbh I hope the mclaren is a winner that would shock a few

HighwayStar

4,257 posts

144 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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Buzz84 said:
HighwayStar said:
Renault have always said the supply identical spec packages to all their teams. Mercedes haven’t done this. I’ve always thought it strange that a team could be legitimately hamstrung by their engine supplier. Glad to see this new directive come in, it should never have been needed.
Renault only supply the power unit lump to customer teams, they don't supply or design the ancillaries/attachments required, like the radiators and piping, intakes and exhaust. so when its all integrated into the final car its far from identical for all teams.

Mercedes are the same. The first year of the current turbo engines they used a "log" style exhaust while Mclaren designed a traditional "tubular" exhaust for their customer unit - obviously the Mercedes designed exhaust specifically for the Mercedes engine worked far better.
I was talking about the power unit! The rule with respect to the spec of the unit.
Williams suffered in that respect of always having the lastest spec and mapping Merc were using.

pits

6,429 posts

190 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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bobbo89 said:
That Petrobras patch on his suit is so obviously a last minute stitch on job!
His mam did it this morning for him hehe

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

196 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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HighwayStar said:
Buzz84 said:
HighwayStar said:
Renault have always said the supply identical spec packages to all their teams. Mercedes haven’t done this. I’ve always thought it strange that a team could be legitimately hamstrung by their engine supplier. Glad to see this new directive come in, it should never have been needed.
Renault only supply the power unit lump to customer teams, they don't supply or design the ancillaries/attachments required, like the radiators and piping, intakes and exhaust. so when its all integrated into the final car its far from identical for all teams.

Mercedes are the same. The first year of the current turbo engines they used a "log" style exhaust while Mclaren designed a traditional "tubular" exhaust for their customer unit - obviously the Mercedes designed exhaust specifically for the Mercedes engine worked far better.
I was talking about the power unit! The rule with respect to the spec of the unit.
Williams suffered in that respect of always having the lastest spec and mapping Merc were using.
I think it differs vastly more car to car, didn’t I hear somewhere that the Mercedes team are actually the only ones running a charge cooler on their engine?

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

233 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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bobbo89 said:
That Petrobras patch on his suit is so obviously a last minute stitch on job!
Go to British Grand Prix Podium 1993 on Google images.

The Camel camel on Prost was stuck over the 'real' one I believe.

DS240

4,672 posts

218 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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Norfolkit said:
ash73 said:
Dr Z said:
Beautiful cool

Love Alonso's helmet livery too, joined up thinking!
Don't like the Sonic the Hedgehog arrangement on top of the sidepods.
You do look and wonder how they are aiding aerodynamics... (not trying to be armchair aerodynamicist).

Anyway... it looks okay. Thank god we can now get over tiring build up and teasing whether it will be orange or not!

  1. howverybrave!!... perhaps I've got a different sense of what's brave or not. It's only a paint job.