2018 Pre-Season Thread

2018 Pre-Season Thread

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HustleRussell

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24,637 posts

160 months

Thursday 1st February 2018
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January is over and F1 2018 starts this month! So, shamelessly inspired by ukaskew's 2017 pre-season thread, here is the 2018 F1 pre-season testing, car reveals, news, and speculation thread.

Regulations

2018 FIA Sporting and Technical Regulations

Key Sporting Regulations Changes

Three Engines per driver per season
The number of engines has been reduced from four last year, while the number of Grands Prix has increased to twenty-one.

Faster, less durable tyres
In response to criticism that they were too conservative with their tyre compounds in 2017 leading to many one-stop races, Pirelli have made their existing tyre range one step softer across the board. They have also bookended their range with two new tyres- a pink marked 'Ultrasoft' and an orange 'Superhard'. The 'Hard' tyre, which used to be orange, is now blue.



Key Technical Regulations Changes

Chassis
Reduction in static front ride height from the straight ahead steering position to full lock in either direction is now limited to 5mm.

Bodywork
Areas left open for development in 2017 which resulted in shark fins and T-wings are no longer available.

Safety
The 'Halo' safety device is now mandatory. The Halo may carry aerodynamic devices and fairings provided they do not extend more than 20mm from the structure.

Weight
Minimum car weight (including driver) has been increased by 6kg to 734kg.



Winter Testing

Date Circuit
Feb 26-Mar 1 Barcelona, Spain
Mar 6-9 Barcelona, Spain



Confirmed Driver Line-Ups

Team Driver Driver
Mercedes Lewis Hamilton Valtteri Bottas
Ferrari Sebastian Vettel Kimi Raikkonen
Red Bull Daniel Ricciardo Max Verstappen
Force India Sergio Perez Esteban Ocon
Williams Lance Stroll Sergey Sirotkin
Renault Carlos Sainz Nico Hulkenburg
Toro Rosso Brendon Hartley Pierre Gasly
Haas Romain Grosjean Kevin Magnussen
McLaren Fernando Alonso Stoffel Vandoorne
Sauber Marcus Ericsson Charles Leclerc



Car Launch

Entrant Constructor Designation Power Unit Date Location
Williams Martini Racing Williams FW41 Mercedes February 15 London
Aston Martin Red Bull Racing Red Bull RB14 TAG Heuer February 19 TBC
Renault Sport Formula One Team Renault R.S.18 Renault February 20 Online
Alfa Romeo Sauber F1 Team Sauber C37 Ferrari February 20 Online
Mercedes AMG Petronas Motorsport Mercedes W09 EQ Power+ Mercedes February 22 Silverstone
Scuderia Ferrari Ferrari TBC Ferrari February 22 Online
Mclaren F1 Team McLaren MCL33 Renault February 23 TBC
Scuderia Toro Rosso Red Bull Toro Rosso TBC Honda February 26 Barcelona
Sahara Force India F1 Team Force India TBC Mercedes TBC TBC
Haas F1 Team Haas VF-18 Ferrari TBC TBC



Provisional Calendar

Date Circuit Sky F1 Channel 4
March 25 Melbourne, Australia Y
April 8 Bahrain, Bahrain Y Y
April 15 Shanghai, China Y
April 29 Baku, Azerbaijan Y Y
May 13 Barcelona, Spain Y
May 27 Monte Carlo, Monaco Y Y
June 10 Montreal, Canada Y
June 24 Le Castellet, France Y
July 1 Spielberg, Austria Y Y
July 8 Silverstone, Great Britain Y Y
July 22 Hockenheim, Germany Y
July 29 Budapest, Hungary Y
August 26 Spa-Francorchamps, Belgium Y Y
September 2 Monza, Italy Y
September 16 Singapore, Singapore Y Y
September 30 Sochi, Russia Y
October 7 Suzuka, Japan Y Y
October 21 Austin, USA Y Y
October 28 Mexico City, Mexico Y
November 11 Sao Paulo, Brazil Y
November 25 Abu Dhabi, UAE Y Y


Tyre Allocations



In-season Testing

Date Circuit
May 15-16 Barcelona, Spain
July 31 - August 1 Budapest, Hungary



Other Calendar Events

  • Indy 500 May 27
  • Le Mans 24hr June 16-17
  • Goodwood Festival of Speed July 12-15
  • Goodwood Revival September 7-9

UK TV Rights

Sky TV - All sessions live. HD and Ultra HD, subscription service, no adverts during race.

Channel 4 - 10 races (inc. practice and qualifying) live negotiated with Sky. Highlights of all other races. HD, free to air, no adverts during race.

Edited by HustleRussell on Monday 12th February 13:54

Pericoloso

44,044 posts

163 months

Thursday 1st February 2018
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Looking at the live tv list ,who TF chooses CH4's allocation ?

Why can't they have Spain ,France ,Germany,Italy and Hungary ?.....all on at sensible European times but Japan is live at

silly o' clock.

Thanks for all the info but I might just switch off now.frown

ETA.....How TF did I forget Monza ?...silly

tight fart

2,897 posts

273 months

Thursday 1st February 2018
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It's getting very silly with these tyre names.

Vaud

50,418 posts

155 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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ash73 said:
All race start times pushed back, and no longer on the hour, ffs! Japanese and Aussie F1 fans won't be happy.

http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12430/11232101/f1...
The on the hour move is good, let’s tv companies run a package that starts on the hour, and provide some build up. Anything that makes it easier for tv companies right now...

HardtopManual

2,421 posts

166 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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Pericoloso said:
Looking at the live tv list ,who TF chooses CH4's allocation ?
Have to say, they've picked some absolute duds there. I count four circuits that usually produce a decent race.

Vaud

50,418 posts

155 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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HardtopManual said:
Pericoloso said:
Looking at the live tv list ,who TF chooses CH4's allocation ?
Have to say, they've picked some absolute duds there. I count four circuits that usually produce a decent race.
There is a process

https://f1broadcasting.co/2017/11/05/predicting-th...

– Channel 4 pick three races (pick 1, 2 and 3)
– Sky pick three races (pick 4, 5 and 6)
– Channel 4 pick one race (pick 7)
– Sky pick one race (pick 8)

This continues until there are no races remaining.

NM62

952 posts

150 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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Cheers HR for starting this thread.

Is the “in season” testing 31st July to 1st August still going ahead?

Vaud

50,418 posts

155 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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NM62 said:
Cheers HR for starting this thread.

Is the “in season” testing 31st July to 1st August still going ahead?
Yes:

May 15-May 16 Circuit de Catalunya, Barcelona
July 31-August 1 Hungaroring, Budapest

NM62

952 posts

150 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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Vaud said:
NM62 said:
Cheers HR for starting this thread.

Is the “in season” testing 31st July to 1st August still going ahead?
Yes:

May 15-May 16 Circuit de Catalunya, Barcelona
July 31-August 1 Hungaroring, Budapest
TY.

Can’t wait for it all to start again!

7 weeks and counting.

ajprice

27,446 posts

196 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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Teppic

7,344 posts

257 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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Vaud said:
HardtopManual said:
Pericoloso said:
Looking at the live tv list ,who TF chooses CH4's allocation ?
Have to say, they've picked some absolute duds there. I count four circuits that usually produce a decent race.
There is a process

https://f1broadcasting.co/2017/11/05/predicting-th...

– Channel 4 pick three races (pick 1, 2 and 3)
– Sky pick three races (pick 4, 5 and 6)
– Channel 4 pick one race (pick 7)
– Sky pick one race (pick 8)

This continues until there are no races remaining.
Having to have the British Grand Prix as one of their live events also hinders Channel 4's selection process, as their picks have to be arranged around that. What isn't mentioned in the above link posted by Vaud is that Channel 4 cannot show more that two successive races live, and Sky can't show more than two successive races exclusively live.

Edited by Teppic on Friday 2nd February 17:58

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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Vaud said:
ash73 said:
All race start times pushed back, and no longer on the hour, ffs! Japanese and Aussie F1 fans won't be happy.

http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12430/11232101/f1...
The on the hour move is good, let’s tv companies run a package that starts on the hour, and provide some build up. Anything that makes it easier for tv companies right now...
Why should it be made easier for the TV Companies? They’re on board, for now, it’s the fans who need to be accommodated. Perhaps you mean cheaper?

Seems infinitesimally insignificant to me. The TV Companies all start their programmes much more than 10 minutes before race time in any case, and struggle to fill that time.

A tiny little shuffle of the deckchairs.

Vaud

50,418 posts

155 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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REALIST123 said:
Why should it be made easier for the TV Companies? They’re on board, for now, it’s the fans who need to be accommodated. Perhaps you mean cheaper?

Seems infinitesimally insignificant to me. The TV Companies all start their programmes much more than 10 minutes before race time in any case, and struggle to fill that time.

A tiny little shuffle of the deckchairs.
Programs are generally scheduled to start at on the hour or half hour. So the logic is that if the race starts at say 1:10, then they can maximise their returns by starting a schedule at 1:00 and not "waste" an extra 30 mins of build up?

thegreenhell

15,278 posts

219 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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Vaud said:
REALIST123 said:
Why should it be made easier for the TV Companies? They’re on board, for now, it’s the fans who need to be accommodated. Perhaps you mean cheaper?

Seems infinitesimally insignificant to me. The TV Companies all start their programmes much more than 10 minutes before race time in any case, and struggle to fill that time.

A tiny little shuffle of the deckchairs.
Programs are generally scheduled to start at on the hour or half hour. So the logic is that if the race starts at say 1:10, then they can maximise their returns by starting a schedule at 1:00 and not "waste" an extra 30 mins of build up?
Not everywhere has a dedicated F1 channel with more time to fill than they know what to do with. In some countries the coverage only starts on the hour, just as the cars are heading off on their warmup lap to the grid, leaving no time for any sort of buildup. The extra 10 minutes will allow them a 5 minute intro and an extra advert break before the race gets going.

Vaud

50,418 posts

155 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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thegreenhell said:
Not everywhere has a dedicated F1 channel with more time to fill than they know what to do with. In some countries the coverage only starts on the hour, just as the cars are heading off on their warmup lap to the grid, leaving no time for any sort of buildup. The extra 10 minutes will allow them a 5 minute intro and an extra advert break before the race gets going.
Well put.

HustleRussell

Original Poster:

24,637 posts

160 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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Bonus points to Vaud and NM62 for mustering a glimmer of optimism and positivity about the coming season.

People are flipping pessimistic about F1 for 2018- seems the realisation of Halo, the Sky exclusive deal and now the exclusion of grid girls have conspired to create a lot of negativity around the sport which is regrettable.

IMO there are lots of reasons to be cheerful, and 2017 was the best season we’ve had possibly since 2010 (or ’13)?
  • Liberty Media are more inclusive and more transparent. They seem to have a big-picture view and they also appear to have some scruples. They are more proactive and they are investing.
  • On-demand broadcast platform, a big step into the 21st century
  • Ross Brawn is heading a team which for the first time ever is scrutinising the regulations with a view to sorting out dirty air and the 2021 regulations overhaul
  • Debates are taking part with teams and engine manufacturers past , present and possibly future to ensure competition on and off the track
  • Distribution of funds is being proactively discussed hence the inevitable sabre-rattling of the wealthier teams (which you must see through)
  • Mercedes are no longer runaway winners every time
  • Resurgence of Mclaren?
  • Four champions on the grid with 11x championships between them
  • Exciting new driving talent in Charles Leclerc, Kubica back in a car, a number of other fresh faces compared to the beginning of the 2017 season
  • Depth of driving talent is as good or better than it’s ever been
  • Cars are faster than ever in real terms and they are set to go whole seconds faster again this season
  • Penalties must remain but they have been simplified for this season
  • French and German Grands Prix are back
So in the spirit of all of that- predictions?

HustleRussell

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Monday 5th February 2018
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ash73 said:
HustleRussell said:
  • On-demand broadcast platform, a big step into the 21st century
What does that mean?
Basically everywhere except the UK will have an official on-demand internet streaming service where consumers can get pay-per-view access to FOM coverage, feeds from cars, data etc.

ash73 said:
Scrutinse, debate, discuss... let's see some action.
On the contrary- No! enough of the knee-jerk sticking plaster solutions. Remember elimination qualifying? Double points Abu Dhabi? What about DRS? There is some talent looking to tackle the fundamental flaws of modern grand prix racing. IMO 2017 was a good season so radical and immediate change would be detrimental.

slipstream 1985

12,211 posts

179 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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Three Engines per driver per season
The number of engines has been reduced from four last year, while the number of Grands Prix has increased to twenty-one.

Is that correct so a team could go for max power on engines and dump the driver every 3 races take a new driver who gets 3 brand new engines?

Vaud

50,418 posts

155 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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ash73 said:
Scrutinse, debate, discuss... let's see some action.
It takes time. Quick fixes are what created today's lack of overtaking, etc.

DanielSan

18,773 posts

167 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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slipstream 1985 said:
Three Engines per driver per season
The number of engines has been reduced from four last year, while the number of Grands Prix has increased to twenty-one.

Is that correct so a team could go for max power on engines and dump the driver every 3 races take a new driver who gets 3 brand new engines?
If it’s the same as last season then no, engine allocations are per car not driver