F1 Past

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coppice

5,486 posts

89 months

Wednesday 14th August
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Nice - but the 641 is even nicer. With the 312T and 312B it's my favourite Grand Prix car - I'm not demeaning these beauties with an abbreviated 'F1'.

TobyTR

621 posts

91 months

Wednesday 14th August
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F1GTRUeno said:
Speaking of mid 90's V12 Ferraris.

https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/lf19/london/lot...



One from the year before, just as pretty, just as great sounding. Coming up for auction soon. Beautiful.
Stunning. That would be my first Lotto purchase

coppice

5,486 posts

89 months

Thursday 15th August
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In MOMA - rightly - the sublime 641

yoshisdad

311 posts

116 months

Thursday 15th August
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coppice said:


In MOMA - rightly - the sublime 641
I'm a McLaren fan really, but this Ferrari makes me weak at the knees.

My favourite driver, Alain Prost, taking the fight to McLaren and Senna in 1990.

Beautiful piece of engineering

Supersam83

305 posts

90 months

Thursday 15th August
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The Ferrari 641 is my favourite F1 car as well.



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paulguitar

3,378 posts

58 months

Thursday 15th August
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Supersam83 said:
The Ferrari 641 is my favourite F1 car as well.



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CedricN

465 posts

90 months

Thursday 15th August
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Read a magazine from 1992 recently (I was a kid back then smile), F1 seemed to be in a pretty bad state back then, with the bad economy hampering all but the top teams. Apparently Senna made 225milj sek a year, corrected to inflation thats 320milj today = about 30m € . More than Team lotus whole race budget according to the article. thats was a big paycheck !

Eric Mc

107,453 posts

210 months

Thursday 15th August
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Despite that, there were 26 cars on every grid and pre-qualification was required to eliminate other cars as more than 26 were trying to start each race.

There were also far more sponsors involved with each time than today.

ELUSIVEJIM

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6,672 posts

96 months

Friday 23rd August
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The 10 worst F1 cars to win a Grand Prix.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaFSkUlrSLg


coppice

5,486 posts

89 months

Friday 23rd August
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Thanks- but what a terrible piece of work . The patronising tone , the tongue in cheek archness , the fact that most of it is recnet past (we've had Grands Prix for 113 years and F1 (correctly the type of car , not the name of the sport) as we know it for nearly 70 but the majority are from the last 20 years.

I am afraid it typifies Autosport in its current guise and is wrong on one fundamental count --the car that wins the Grand Prix, and its driver, are the best on that day .That's, y'know, why they beat everyone else ...

Other cars may have been faster , other drivers too, but on neither count were they good enough to win. It may be luck , misfortune , poor judgement , and myriad other reasons but if you win - you win , and you beat everyone else . 'deserving ' or not . .

sgtBerbatov

1,612 posts

26 months

Tuesday 27th August
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coppice said:
Thanks- but what a terrible piece of work . The patronising tone , the tongue in cheek archness , the fact that most of it is recnet past (we've had Grands Prix for 113 years and F1 (correctly the type of car , not the name of the sport) as we know it for nearly 70 but the majority are from the last 20 years.

I am afraid it typifies Autosport in its current guise and is wrong on one fundamental count --the car that wins the Grand Prix, and its driver, are the best on that day .That's, y'know, why they beat everyone else ...

Other cars may have been faster , other drivers too, but on neither count were they good enough to win. It may be luck , misfortune , poor judgement , and myriad other reasons but if you win - you win , and you beat everyone else . 'deserving ' or not . .
Quite agree. But it's clickbait at the end of the day, Top 10 videos etc are popular. So for the owners of Autosport they need all the clicks they can get to generate some of that sweet sweet advertising revenue.

I didn't agree with the list either, I've no idea why Gile's Ferrari was on the list yet Maldanado's Williams wasn't even mentioned.

Halmyre

7,327 posts

84 months

Tuesday 27th August
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coppice said:
Thanks- but what a terrible piece of work . The patronising tone , the tongue in cheek archness , the fact that most of it is recnet past (we've had Grands Prix for 113 years and F1 (correctly the type of car , not the name of the sport) as we know it for nearly 70 but the majority are from the last 20 years.

I am afraid it typifies Autosport in its current guise and is wrong on one fundamental count --the car that wins the Grand Prix, and its driver, are the best on that day .That's, y'know, why they beat everyone else ...

Other cars may have been faster , other drivers too, but on neither count were they good enough to win. It may be luck , misfortune , poor judgement , and myriad other reasons but if you win - you win , and you beat everyone else . 'deserving ' or not . .
Also, does unreliable == bad? The Lotus 49 is more-or-less a 43 with a Cosworth V8 instead of the BRM H16, and no-one is ragging on that, and the 43 is based on the Indianapolis-winning 38.

The truly terrible cars don't win F1 races. Well maybe - Jackie Stewart says the March 701 was the worst, or at least the worst-handling, car he ever drove in F1, and he'd had two seasons with the BRM H16 as a benchmark.

coppice

5,486 posts

89 months

Tuesday 27th August
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My stance would be more difflcult if the Tecno . Andrea Moda or LIfe W12 had ever won .

ELUSIVEJIM

Original Poster:

6,672 posts

96 months

Wednesday 28th August
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Sorry, it's Autosport again laugh

Why Michael Schumacher once tested a GP2 car

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGGTchjOV-0

ELUSIVEJIM

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6,672 posts

96 months

Monday 2nd September
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A very interesting insight into the old Spa circuit.

Just imagine the speeds and risks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCsJZhVadqY

coppice

5,486 posts

89 months

Friday 6th September
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On BBC iplayer do check out the Sporting Mavericks series - one episode of which features Tom Pryce , the Welsh F1 driver killed at Kyalami in 1977. A very moving portrait of a lost talent (one third of the Lost Generation triumvirate so beautifully written about by David Tremayne ) . I found it almost unsettling , as I had been present at so many of the events shown on film .

There was a lovely exhibition about Tom's life at Denbigh , Tom's home town . last year which OH and I visited , and I contributed a programme from one of Tom's early races at Oulton .

yoshisdad

311 posts

116 months

Friday 6th September
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coppice said:
On BBC iplayer do check out the Sporting Mavericks series - one episode of which features Tom Pryce , the Welsh F1 driver killed at Kyalami in 1977. A very moving portrait of a lost talent (one third of the Lost Generation triumvirate so beautifully written about by David Tremayne ) . I found it almost unsettling , as I had been present at so many of the events shown on film .

There was a lovely exhibition about Tom's life at Denbigh , Tom's home town . last year which OH and I visited , and I contributed a programme from one of Tom's early races at Oulton .
Thank you for letting us know about this great programme.
I've visited his home town and seen the sculpture dedicated to him.
Great footage of F1 from the 70's.

jsf

13,771 posts

181 months

Friday 6th September
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Very nicely put together program.

ELUSIVEJIM

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6,672 posts

96 months

Friday 6th September
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Piola's top cars: Ferrari 640

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVm8hgoSjQU

ELUSIVEJIM

Original Poster:

6,672 posts

96 months

Friday 6th September
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coppice said:
On BBC iplayer do check out the Sporting Mavericks series - one episode of which features Tom Pryce , the Welsh F1 driver killed at Kyalami in 1977. A very moving portrait of a lost talent (one third of the Lost Generation triumvirate so beautifully written about by David Tremayne ) . I found it almost unsettling , as I had been present at so many of the events shown on film .

There was a lovely exhibition about Tom's life at Denbigh , Tom's home town . last year which OH and I visited , and I contributed a programme from one of Tom's early races at Oulton .
Thank you for this smile