The Official F1 2019 silly season *contains speculation*

The Official F1 2019 silly season *contains speculation*

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Norfolkit

2,394 posts

190 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
I'd like to see Tatiana Calderón promoted from Sauber test driver into a full race seat, but I doubt we'll see it happen.
Why would you like to see that?
Eight years in F3/Euro F3 and GP3 with bugger all success, wins zero, poles zero, points, not many.

Frankly after that amount of time she shouldn't be in F3 let alone promoted to F1.



Clockwork Cupcake

74,549 posts

272 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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Norfolkit said:
Why would you like to see that?
I'd just like to see a woman in an F1 seat, that's all. Although if she's a bit crap it would probably do more harm than good I suppose.

andburg

7,289 posts

169 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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Norfolkit said:
Why would you like to see that?
Eight years in F3/Euro F3 and GP3 with bugger all success, wins zero, poles zero, points, not many.

Frankly after that amount of time she shouldn't be in F3 let alone promoted to F1.
Agreed.

It'll be a while before we see a woman start an F1 race and probably longer on merit, simply because not enough get into motorsport early on. Until enough women get into motorsport and beat the guys in the lower formulas they will struggle to earn drives.

Susie Wolff / Carmen Jordan were no better, never won a race and were just promotional tools.
Danica Patrick won 1 race in Indy in 2008, nothing before that going all the way back to formula ford in 2000.


Vaud

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50,482 posts

155 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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Not sure Tatiana Calderón has enough super licence points?

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

196 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
Norfolkit said:
Why would you like to see that?
I'd just like to see a woman in an F1 seat, that's all.
At least Carmen was a looker, if we're going on random people who should be driving an F1 car regardless of skill.

Norfolkit

2,394 posts

190 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
Norfolkit said:
Why would you like to see that?
I'd just like to see a woman in an F1 seat, that's all. Although if she's a bit crap it would probably do more harm than good I suppose.
I think it would do a lot more harm than good. She really does not have the talent to be anywhere near F1 and the problem is everyone knows that., she only has a hook up with Sauber because shes a woman, that's not doing the talented female drivers out there any favours. If one of the teams want to put a female driver on their academy team on merit and sponsor her through GP3 and F2 I'm all for it and if she's good enough give her a F1 drive, but do it on ability alone (that should apply to all drivers obviously).


Edited by Norfolkit on Friday 12th October 12:37

bobbo89

5,216 posts

145 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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I really hope Ocon stays at FI and Perez gets the boot. Highly unlikely but I really don’t rate him as a driver, losing his head and often doing daft stuff

HustleRussell

24,699 posts

160 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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bobbo89 said:
I really hope Ocon stays at FI and Perez gets the boot. Highly unlikely but I really don’t rate him as a driver, losing his head and often doing daft stuff
Like scoring podiums, and scoring more points than Ocon this season? That kind of daft stuff?

AndrewEH1

4,917 posts

153 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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HustleRussell said:
bobbo89 said:
I really hope Ocon stays at FI and Perez gets the boot. Highly unlikely but I really don’t rate him as a driver, losing his head and often doing daft stuff
Like scoring podiums, and scoring more points than Ocon this season? That kind of daft stuff?
Let's not forget Perez' role in effectively saving Force India by forcing administration so Stroll Snr could by the team and not force any job loss and asset stripping.

Clockwork Cupcake

74,549 posts

272 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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Norfolkit said:
I think it would do a lot more harm than good. She really does not have the talent to be anywhere near F1 and the problem is everyone knows that., she only has a hook up with Sauber because shes a woman, that's not doing the talented female drivers out there any favours. If one of the teams want to put a female driver on their academy team on merit and sponsor her through GP3 and F2 I'm all for it and if she's good enough give her a F1 drive, but do it on ability alone (that should apply to all drivers obviously).
I think you're probably right.

Plus it would be a case of this:

Credit: https://xkcd.com/385

If she had a go, and was crap, people would say "women are crap" not "she's crap". frown


Edited by Clockwork Cupcake on Friday 12th October 13:44

Kraken

1,710 posts

200 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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Mercedes said they wouldn't pay for either Russell or Ocon to race with another team so I hope it's not a case of family money winning out again.

Both fully deserve F1 drives on previous results but with the sacrifices that Ocons family made to get him where he is I've always had a soft spot for him.

bobbo89

5,216 posts

145 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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AndrewEH1 said:
Let's not forget Perez' role in effectively saving Force India by forcing administration so Stroll Snr could by the team and not force any job loss and asset stripping.
Yep, hence why it’s highly unlikely.!

gmaz

4,400 posts

210 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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Great new for Russell, I think he is a great talent.

But... he reminds me of Jacob Rees Mogg, he looks like he should be at a Young Conservatives rally

StevieBee

12,888 posts

255 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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gmaz said:
he looks like he should be at a Young Conservatives rally
Is that the same as the Welsh Rally but none of the drivers really know where they're going?

Clockwork Cupcake

74,549 posts

272 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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StevieBee said:
Is that the same as the Welsh Rally but none of the drivers really know where they're going?
rofl

bobbo89

5,216 posts

145 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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gmaz said:
Great new for Russell, I think he is a great talent.

But... he reminds me of Jacob Rees Mogg, he looks like he should be at a Young Conservatives rally
You'll like this pic then!


slipstream 1985

12,220 posts

179 months

Saturday 13th October 2018
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Kraken said:
Mercedes said they wouldn't pay for either Russell or Ocon to race with another team so I hope it's not a case of family money winning out again.

Both fully deserve F1 drives on previous results but with the sacrifices that Ocons family made to get him where he is I've always had a soft spot for him.
Is there a backstory to him anywhere?

DanielSan

18,792 posts

167 months

Saturday 13th October 2018
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slipstream 1985 said:
Is there a backstory to him anywhere?
Have a listen to the On the Grid Podcast interview with him, his family sold their house and pretty much lived in a caravan full time going to races all over Europe. One of the fee drivers to get where he has done on his talent getting him sponsorship

Kccv23highliftcam

1,783 posts

75 months

Saturday 13th October 2018
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Any updates on NL anybody??

Supersam83

607 posts

145 months

Tuesday 16th October 2018
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So now that Mick Schumacher has won the Euro F3 championship does that give him enough Super Licence points for F1 in 2019?