The Official F1 2019 silly season *contains speculation*
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andburg said:
Teams need to be RBR style cut throat in these academies and drop drivers who are unlikely to get to their own top drive. That would create a free market of drivers with some experience for the independent teams to look at.
Doesn’t quite ring true in 2019, given that STR is very likely to field at least one (and probably 2) driver who’s already had a crack at F1...there are plenty of drivers out there with no F1 experience...the real problem is that of the Superlicence requirementsKccv23highliftcam said:
Formula 1: Is Kimi Raikkonen right to stay in F1? - Jolyon Palmer
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/45572124
Oh the irony.
wow Palmer really does talk some rot, car crash is too kind, that's a motorway pile up. Life's too short to even list all that's wrong in that article, its the literacy equivalent of witnessing an 80 year old whose never driven a manual trying out clutch control for the first time.https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/45572124
Oh the irony.
Exige77 said:
rubystone said:
Vaud said:
Post 2020? Hamilton will retire I think. Ocon-Russell?
Not until he’s beaten Schumacher’s record. I think that once he’s done that he might fancy a seat at Ferrari if it’s competitive. rubystone said:
andburg said:
Teams need to be RBR style cut throat in these academies and drop drivers who are unlikely to get to their own top drive. That would create a free market of drivers with some experience for the independent teams to look at.
Doesn’t quite ring true in 2019, given that STR is very likely to field at least one (and probably 2) driver who’s already had a crack at F1...there are plenty of drivers out there with no F1 experience...the real problem is that of the Superlicence requirementsjsf said:
How long a top driver can last boils down to how motivated they are, its a tough life for someone with other options because of their success.
From a physical capability position you could drive well into your 50's and still have the pace.
I remember being at Outon Park in 1989 when Paul Stewart was competing in British Fi3. He was complaining that there was something wrong with the set up, it was just not fast enough.From a physical capability position you could drive well into your 50's and still have the pace.
Apparently, dad got in the car and set a time that would have put him on pole. He told Paul there was nothing wrong with the car. Paul’s race career did not progress that much further.
Having said that, I do struggle to believe that a 50-year old would be very competitive in current F1. Sure Brundle can get in a modern car and look good for the camera, but I don’t think he could hold Lewis to account in a second Mercedes. I suppose the debate would be could he beat Stroll? - I don’t think so.
rdjohn said:
Having said that, I do struggle to believe that a 50-year old would be very competitive in current F1.
It's difficult to say. The cars are certainly less physically demanding to drive than in the past - drivers of Mansell's era needed neck muscles like a bulldog. But then again, drivers these days have fitness levels of top athletes, so I don't know. Clockwork Cupcake said:
It's difficult to say. The cars are certainly less physically demanding to drive than in the past - drivers of Mansell's era needed neck muscles like a bulldog. But then again, drivers these days have fitness levels of top athletes, so I don't know.
Your reflexes start to degrade as you age, the limiting factor will be the drivers losing that tenth here or there as the years accumulate.tobinen said:
I thought this generation of cars are the fastest ever. They're pulling more Gs than ever before..
Today's drivers also have the benefit of the higher cockpit padded sides that limit movement by G force to the side. In Mansell's day they were exposed down to their shoulders so the neck took all the G.rdjohn said:
I remember being at Outon Park in 1989 when Paul Stewart was competing in British Fi3. He was complaining that there was something wrong with the set up, it was just not fast enough.
Apparently, dad got in the car and set a time that would have put him on pole. He told Paul there was nothing wrong with the car. Paul’s race career did not progress that much further.
Having said that, I do struggle to believe that a 50-year old would be very competitive in current F1. Sure Brundle can get in a modern car and look good for the camera, but I don’t think he could hold Lewis to account in a second Mercedes. I suppose the debate would be could he beat Stroll? - I don’t think so.
Brundle has let his fitness slide, you would obviously have to retain the physical fitness level to compete, which comes down to motivation.Apparently, dad got in the car and set a time that would have put him on pole. He told Paul there was nothing wrong with the car. Paul’s race career did not progress that much further.
Having said that, I do struggle to believe that a 50-year old would be very competitive in current F1. Sure Brundle can get in a modern car and look good for the camera, but I don’t think he could hold Lewis to account in a second Mercedes. I suppose the debate would be could he beat Stroll? - I don’t think so.
The return of Schumacher is the most recent example of age in F1. But after Rosberg's showing against Hamilton, maybe 40's Schumacher was better than he looked. And that was after a break.
If Lewis is taking championships to the wire every yearfor the next ten years, I can't see his fitness dropping. But if he ends up like Alonso fighting back markers when he already has a full trophy cabinet, then I can see him looking to other pursuits. I still think Rosberg was the best thing that happened to Hamilton from a sharpness POV. If he'd had Bottas for all those yearsI'm not sure he'd be as good today.
If Lewis is taking championships to the wire every yearfor the next ten years, I can't see his fitness dropping. But if he ends up like Alonso fighting back markers when he already has a full trophy cabinet, then I can see him looking to other pursuits. I still think Rosberg was the best thing that happened to Hamilton from a sharpness POV. If he'd had Bottas for all those yearsI'm not sure he'd be as good today.
jsf said:
Brundle has let his fitness slide, you would obviously have to retain the physical fitness level to compete, which comes down to motivation.
Having a minor heart attack a couple of years ago probably hasn't motivated him to push his physical fitness. He looks in pretty good condition for his age, tbh.
Edit: And just a few weeks after that heart attack in 2016, he put a Le Mans car on Pole Position. Not bad for someone who was 57 at the time.
Edited by Clockwork Cupcake on Saturday 22 September 15:57
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