The Official F1 2019 silly season *contains speculation*

[Vaud]

Clockwork Cupcake said:

I completely agree.

To be honest, "mildly irked" describes my feelings far better, but I was replying in the same vein as the post I was quoting.

I'm sickened by it.

[Teddy Lop]

Bullitt Five-Oh said:

The way TR and RB handle their drivers like they were a commodity makes me a bit sick. And it looks like Albon and Kvyat are another set of stop gaps for 2019.

until tictum gets enough superlicence points...

[DanielSan]

Williams announce PKN Orlen as their new sponsor, rear wing, nose, wing mirrors and some of the engine cover. So either they're selling the car fairly cheap or Kubica managed to raise a lot of cash

[andburg]

but not title sponsor so its not that much money!

[thegreenhell]

Joe Saward reckons they're paying $26M over two years, but also that Kubica is bringing $17M for 2019. If the oil money is split evenly over two years, that means there's another $4M from elsewhere.

[DanielSan]

andburg said:

but not title sponsor so its not that much money!

That's why I said Williams are selling the space cheap... it's got title positions on the car.

[Vaud]

DanielSan said:

That's why I said Williams are selling the space cheap... it's got title positions on the car.

Don't forget the Stroll payout...

[thegreenhell]

DanielSan said:

That's why I said Williams are selling the space cheap... it's got title positions on the car.

Martini were reportedly only paying something like $20M per year for title sponsorship.

[DanielSan]

thegreenhell said:

Martini were reportedly only paying something like $20M per year for title sponsorship.

That number seems to vary depending on where you look, highest I've seen was something like 36M lowest being around half that. No one really seems to know.

Stroll payout is a good point though. And don't Williams get a payout for being a World Championship winning team, and a long standing team like Mclaren/Ferrari.

[RichB]

DanielSan said:

... don't Williams get a payout for being a World Championship winning team, and a long standing team like Mclaren/Ferrari.

I believe only Ferrari get the $100 million Bernie-bounty for being, well... Ferarri!

[Vaud]

DanielSan said:

And don't Williams get a payout for being a World Championship winning team, and a long standing team like Mclaren/Ferrari.

https://www.racefans.net/2018/08/01/formula-1-team...

[RichB]

Vaud said:

DanielSan said:

And don't Williams get a payout for being a World Championship winning team, and a long standing team like Mclaren/Ferrari.

https://www.racefans.net/2018/08/01/formula-1-team...

Very interesting, thanks for posting.

[carl_w]

Stroll in surprise move to RPFI: https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/140445/force-ind...

[andburg]

I'm surprised, I expected the anouncement to coincide with the new team name

[Mr_Thyroid]

carl_w said:

Stroll in surprise move to RPFI: https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/140445/force-ind...

I can't decide whether this is going to be good or bad for Perez. On current form Perez should annihilate Stroll, but how much will the team be biased towards the owner's son?

[Mark-C]

Mr_Thyroid said:

carl_w said:

Stroll in surprise move to RPFI: https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/140445/force-ind...

I can't decide whether this is going to be good or bad for Perez. On current form Perez should annihilate Stroll, but how much will the team be biased towards the owner's son?

On the other hand if Perez does badly everyone will assume it's the team favouring Stroll ...

Ocon seems to be the loser here unless he has a nailed on Merc drive for 2020 as part of his reserve driver deal for 2019

[North West Tom]

Stroll is not a bad driver at all. Also, Perez got dicked 16-5 in qualis this season so I don't think it's going to be as one-sided as some people think.

[DanielSan]

North West Tom said:

Stroll is not a bad driver at all. Also, Perez got dicked 16-5 in qualis this season so I don't think it's going to be as one-sided as some people think.

Perez has a weird Alonso like thing going on where he doesn't always out qualify his team mate but more often than not he finishes ahead in the race. He has beaten Ocon over this season... A massively underrated driver now, a big improvement on the Perez that we saw at Mclaren.

[anonymous-user]

DanielSan said:

Perez has a weird Alonso like thing going on where he doesn't always out qualify his team mate but more often than not he finishes ahead in the race. He has beaten Ocon over this season... A massively underrated driver now, a big improvement on the Perez that we saw at Mclaren.

Yet Alonso annihilated Vandoorn.

[DanielSan]

jsf said:

Yet Alonso annihilated Vandoorn.

It remains to be seen whether Vandoorne gets a second chance in F1 or not and shows what he can do, if he can do it, the fact no other team took him on despite so many driver changes everywhere this season would suggest that a lot of the paddock aren't impressed with what they've seen. He's supposed to have been in line for the Sauber drive in the none Ferrari owned seat, yet they took Kimi instead.