The Official F1 2019 silly season *contains speculation*
Discussion
Muzzer79 said:
Current performance?
You mean, first three races? That's a bit early to be judging either the car or the drivers.
I meant financial as much as anything. From a number of articles they are in financial trouble and may not last the season; the performance may be due to an underfunded development cycle.You mean, first three races? That's a bit early to be judging either the car or the drivers.
Vaud said:
Muzzer79 said:
Current performance?
You mean, first three races? That's a bit early to be judging either the car or the drivers.
I meant financial as much as anything. From a number of articles they are in financial trouble and may not last the season; the performance may be due to an underfunded development cycle.You mean, first three races? That's a bit early to be judging either the car or the drivers.
If they get in real schtuck, then I suspect Mercedes will step in and help and potentially set up something like Haas have with Ferrari.
However, it makes sense to leave that as late as possible to get a good price.
GCH said:
I would love to see Lewis in a Ferrari and still reckon he will be at some point before he retires.
I can imagine the lure of the prancing horse is as strong as it would be for any driver, plus the potential to be a champion for three different teams must be factored in.
Unlikely with vettel there though.
A Ferrari seat has become a pension policy for former World Champions.I can imagine the lure of the prancing horse is as strong as it would be for any driver, plus the potential to be a champion for three different teams must be factored in.
Unlikely with vettel there though.
Muzzer79 said:
The team is for sale (along with several others) but the only danger I can see is Mallya's ongoing legal issues.
If they get in real schtuck, then I suspect Mercedes will step in and help and potentially set up something like Haas have with Ferrari.
However, it makes sense to leave that as late as possible to get a good price.
Possibly, that is quite logicalIf they get in real schtuck, then I suspect Mercedes will step in and help and potentially set up something like Haas have with Ferrari.
However, it makes sense to leave that as late as possible to get a good price.
Who else is for sale? Torro Rosso? I can see Williams selling to a major manufacturer if the new rules are favourable (for the long term stability).
Vaud said:
Muzzer79 said:
The team is for sale (along with several others) but the only danger I can see is Mallya's ongoing legal issues.
If they get in real schtuck, then I suspect Mercedes will step in and help and potentially set up something like Haas have with Ferrari.
However, it makes sense to leave that as late as possible to get a good price.
Possibly, that is quite logicalIf they get in real schtuck, then I suspect Mercedes will step in and help and potentially set up something like Haas have with Ferrari.
However, it makes sense to leave that as late as possible to get a good price.
Who else is for sale? Torro Rosso? I can see Williams selling to a major manufacturer if the new rules are favourable (for the long term stability).
Force India
Toro Rosso
Sauber
Williams
However, they're all for sale if someone comes along with the right money, apart from Ferrari and maybe Mclaren.
https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/opinion/f1/ricc...
Speculation on a possible move for Daniel Ricciardo to Ferrari. Or not.
Speculation on a possible move for Daniel Ricciardo to Ferrari. Or not.
Dermot O'Logical said:
https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/opinion/f1/ricc...
Speculation on a possible move for Daniel Ricciardo to Ferrari. Or not.
Interesting read, that. I still can't see him going to Ferrari alongside Vettel. It just doesn't seem to suit the way either Vettel or Ferrari operate to have a feisty driver like Daniel in the other car.Speculation on a possible move for Daniel Ricciardo to Ferrari. Or not.
I think Alonso will stay at Mclaren. They must be giving him a sweet deal on his Kimoa brand sponsorship and just maybe they will come good! I think if they built their own engine (waiting to see what the new engine rules are) and tested it like crazy then it would add value for them and just maybe they can win a championship again.
This is in the Spanish media.
Fernando Alonso is out: McLaren signs the relay (and "is closed")
Considering the disaster that was the 3 years of unfulfilled promises with Honda , the outlook for McLaren with Renault seems, at least, hopeful.
Their engines are not broken and the talent of Fernando Alonso leads them to a fourth place in the classification of teams.
It is the comfort of a minor team, since Ferrari, Mercedes and Red Bull have a clear advantage in the lead, but it is a consolation. And a ray of light for the next season.
That ray of illusion, however, causes chills in Fernando Alonso . It can turn into a bad omen that indicates the end of his McLaren stage . And the information that comes from Woking confirm this.
The early genius
The Asturian driver, as happened in Mercedes and Ferrari , will have worked tirelessly to return a team on the path of victory and will have to see how others collect the honeys of success.
It happened with Lewis Hamilton , later with Sebastien Vettel and in the next year, with the new British genius who has England crazy about music, Lando Norris .
Norris does not capture as many media outlets as Vandoorne did in his day, but he has made clear his innate talent at the wheel. His first race in F2 left a dazzling victory, and his walks through Woking learning from technicians and throwing hours in the simulator are a constant.
For that reason, and because the salary of Fernando Alonso is astronomical, the British team is clear about the strategy to follow. To mature the car thanks to the experience of an excited Alonso to return to compete minimally, then let him go and give his seat to Norris .
The youth's environment ensures that "it is closed" and predict that Norris will match records established by Hamilton. McLaren's bet is clear, thank the service sheet to Alonso and press Vandoorne with the new blood of a Norris that aims to star.
Fernando Alonso is out: McLaren signs the relay (and "is closed")
Considering the disaster that was the 3 years of unfulfilled promises with Honda , the outlook for McLaren with Renault seems, at least, hopeful.
Their engines are not broken and the talent of Fernando Alonso leads them to a fourth place in the classification of teams.
It is the comfort of a minor team, since Ferrari, Mercedes and Red Bull have a clear advantage in the lead, but it is a consolation. And a ray of light for the next season.
That ray of illusion, however, causes chills in Fernando Alonso . It can turn into a bad omen that indicates the end of his McLaren stage . And the information that comes from Woking confirm this.
The early genius
The Asturian driver, as happened in Mercedes and Ferrari , will have worked tirelessly to return a team on the path of victory and will have to see how others collect the honeys of success.
It happened with Lewis Hamilton , later with Sebastien Vettel and in the next year, with the new British genius who has England crazy about music, Lando Norris .
Norris does not capture as many media outlets as Vandoorne did in his day, but he has made clear his innate talent at the wheel. His first race in F2 left a dazzling victory, and his walks through Woking learning from technicians and throwing hours in the simulator are a constant.
For that reason, and because the salary of Fernando Alonso is astronomical, the British team is clear about the strategy to follow. To mature the car thanks to the experience of an excited Alonso to return to compete minimally, then let him go and give his seat to Norris .
The youth's environment ensures that "it is closed" and predict that Norris will match records established by Hamilton. McLaren's bet is clear, thank the service sheet to Alonso and press Vandoorne with the new blood of a Norris that aims to star.
Silly version of events - Mclaren announce Indycar program for 2019 onwards in partnership with Andretti, the car will be Honda powered and Alonso will go and do that next season, possibly becoming champion in his debut season like Mansell.
Vandoorne and Norris in the Mclaren F1 seats next season.
Vandoorne and Norris in the Mclaren F1 seats next season.
The same source that told me Kimi to Ferrari a few years ago told me Ricciardo is nailed on at Ferrari. If so, does this say something about Vettel’s influence being eroded?
Conventional wisdom says that Hamilton would prefer a straight number 2, especially as the team’s advantage no longer exists. If he were to be tied to a 2+1 then I’m sure he’d make it a condition that Bottas stays.
That leaves just the replacement for Ricciardo at RBR. Sainz is the obvious choice there.
Conventional wisdom says that Hamilton would prefer a straight number 2, especially as the team’s advantage no longer exists. If he were to be tied to a 2+1 then I’m sure he’d make it a condition that Bottas stays.
That leaves just the replacement for Ricciardo at RBR. Sainz is the obvious choice there.
rubystone said:
The same source that told me Kimi to Ferrari a few years ago told me Ricciardo is nailed on at Ferrari. If so, does this say something about Vettel’s influence being eroded?
Conventional wisdom says that Hamilton would prefer a straight number 2, especially as the team’s advantage no longer exists. If he were to be tied to a 2+1 then I’m sure he’d make it a condition that Bottas stays.
That leaves just the replacement for Ricciardo at RBR. Sainz is the obvious choice there.
If that is the case with Ricciardo then it surely questions Ferrari's views on Vettel.Conventional wisdom says that Hamilton would prefer a straight number 2, especially as the team’s advantage no longer exists. If he were to be tied to a 2+1 then I’m sure he’d make it a condition that Bottas stays.
That leaves just the replacement for Ricciardo at RBR. Sainz is the obvious choice there.
DanielSan said:
Silly version of events - Mclaren announce Indycar program for 2019 onwards in partnership with Andretti, the car will be Honda powered and Alonso will go and do that next season, possibly becoming champion in his debut season like Mansell.
Vandoorne and Norris in the Mclaren F1 seats next season.
Would Alonso be able to drive a Honda-powered car next year? I mean, he's signed for a full season of WEC with Toyota, and this season of WEC lasts until after Le Mans 2019. I'm not sure if he's announced that he's doing the 2019 WEC races yet, but as he's doing all of the 2018 portion of the WEC Super Season you have to assume that he's after the WEC championship title, which means that he's already committed to another Japanese manufacturer in 2019.Vandoorne and Norris in the Mclaren F1 seats next season.
Is nobody entertaining the idea that silly season 2018/19 might have been massively over hyped and will ultimately disappoint?
Is Bottas bound to be dumped? Not convinced
Might Kimi’s recent form earn him a place for yet another year?
Could Ricciardo stay at Red Bull and Red Bull stay with Renault?
I’m sure we’ll see changes in the lower teams...
Is Bottas bound to be dumped? Not convinced
Might Kimi’s recent form earn him a place for yet another year?
Could Ricciardo stay at Red Bull and Red Bull stay with Renault?
I’m sure we’ll see changes in the lower teams...
HustleRussell said:
Is nobody entertaining the idea that silly season 2018/19 might have been massively over hyped and will ultimately disappoint?
Is Bottas bound to be dumped? Not convinced
Might Kimi’s recent form earn him a place for yet another year?
Could Ricciardo stay at Red Bull and Red Bull stay with Renault?
I’m sure we’ll see changes in the lower teams...
I've hyped as much as I can Is Bottas bound to be dumped? Not convinced
Might Kimi’s recent form earn him a place for yet another year?
Could Ricciardo stay at Red Bull and Red Bull stay with Renault?
I’m sure we’ll see changes in the lower teams...
I just can't remember when so many drivers contracts were at an end, and with at least 2 WDCs viewed as possibly exiting (Fernando and Kimi).
Kimi certainly looks on form this year in terms of base line pace and he seems to be following the "good no 2" role, so maybe he will, to give LeClerc another year of assessment in a Sauber.
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