The Official F1 2019 silly season *contains speculation*
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I'm of the opinion (obviously it's all guesswork) that Vettel will not want Riciardo at Ferrari. As mentioned above Kimi is doing the dutiful No.2, and Ferrari might well win a championship or two this year. If that happens then they won't change a thing, Vettel and Kimi will stay put.
That leaves Riciardo to potentially move to Merc. Bottas was/is Toto's boy, so unless Bottas completely f
ks up the first half of the season he'll get another one year. Ham will stay put and develop clear No1 status.
Red Bull will have no option but to use Honda next year. Riciardo will not want to drive at RBR/Honda. Which leaves him with Renault or McLaren...
Renault will stick with what they have.
McLaren will set up a McLaren/Andretti/Honda Indy team with Alonso doing a full season. Riciardo will move to McLaren. Vandoorne might get dropped for Norris, depends on how much of a thrashing he continues to get from Alonso.
Stroll is never - - ever going to get fired from Williams as someone suggested. Daddy Stroll might well decide that he'd be better off chucking his money into Force Indiia and we'll have a new team - Stroll F1. But then again, maybe Merc will buy FI to have it's own B team.
The rest of the field are simply going to take whoever has the most money as the teams will have their eyes on survival and getting on with the 2020 cars.
That leaves Riciardo to potentially move to Merc. Bottas was/is Toto's boy, so unless Bottas completely f
ks up the first half of the season he'll get another one year. Ham will stay put and develop clear No1 status.Red Bull will have no option but to use Honda next year. Riciardo will not want to drive at RBR/Honda. Which leaves him with Renault or McLaren...
Renault will stick with what they have.
McLaren will set up a McLaren/Andretti/Honda Indy team with Alonso doing a full season. Riciardo will move to McLaren. Vandoorne might get dropped for Norris, depends on how much of a thrashing he continues to get from Alonso.
Stroll is never - - ever going to get fired from Williams as someone suggested. Daddy Stroll might well decide that he'd be better off chucking his money into Force Indiia and we'll have a new team - Stroll F1. But then again, maybe Merc will buy FI to have it's own B team.
The rest of the field are simply going to take whoever has the most money as the teams will have their eyes on survival and getting on with the 2020 cars.
housen said:
Vaud said:
housen said:
ugh im not saying anything but if you know some of the italian culture you will never see hamilton at ferrari
the italain football fans booed Mario Balotelli when he was playing for the national italian side ....AND NOT BECAUSE HE WAS A BAD FOOTBALL PLAYER
Lewis was racially abused in 2008/2009 by Spanish fans. the italain football fans booed Mario Balotelli when he was playing for the national italian side ....AND NOT BECAUSE HE WAS A BAD FOOTBALL PLAYER
I'm not sure racing for Ferrari would be an issue given only 1 race is in Italy, and any travelling fans would be minimal?
HustleRussell said:
Is nobody entertaining the idea that silly season 2018/19 might have been massively over hyped and will ultimately disappoint?
Was thinking the same thing.Nothing much is going to change over the next three years. Both the WDC and WCC titles will be thrashed out between Mercedes and Ferrari. Red Bull will do enough to keep both teams honest.
Vettel and Hamilton will only jump ship if they believe another team will have the best car. And both are - I suspect - quite happy with the other driver in their respective teams.
Either may decide they've had enough but I rather suspect that unlikely anytime soon.
suffolk009 said:
I've just seen a report on twitter that Ferrari have purchased rights to exclusive contract discussions until the end of June with Ricciardo.
It may of course be total bks.
Mark Hughes reported that last week: https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/opinion/f1/ricc...It may of course be total b
ks.
thegreenhell said:
suffolk009 said:
I've just seen a report on twitter that Ferrari have purchased rights to exclusive contract discussions until the end of June with Ricciardo.
It may of course be total bks.
Mark Hughes reported that last week: https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/opinion/f1/ricc...It may of course be total b
ks.DanielSan said:
Silly version of events - Mclaren announce Indycar program for 2019 onwards in partnership with Andretti, the car will be Honda powered and Alonso will go and do that next season, possibly becoming champion in his debut season like Mansell.
Vandoorne and Norris in the Mclaren F1 seats next season.
That sounds entirely plausible...... the effect of the McLaren name in indycar along with Alonso will open up Indycar to Europe big time. Bearing in mind that McLaren's boss is big into Indycar and runs his own IMSA car.Vandoorne and Norris in the Mclaren F1 seats next season.
Need to remember that Williams is listed in the German Stock Exchange and as such are entirely responsible to it's Shareholders. So a sale of Williams to anyone is a bit more tricky. I suppose the holding company could spin of the race team and keep hold of the engineering side but that would remove a very large part of the listed company.
At some point Williams need to decide that they need to put decent drivers in their cars. Not just look at how much they bring to the team. I reckon there's a lot of russian money in SMP waiting to come in, so Stroll is not as safe as he has been, even with daddys millions (curious how Tommy Hillfigure sponsor Mercedes!)
At some point Williams need to decide that they need to put decent drivers in their cars. Not just look at how much they bring to the team. I reckon there's a lot of russian money in SMP waiting to come in, so Stroll is not as safe as he has been, even with daddys millions (curious how Tommy Hillfigure sponsor Mercedes!)
super7 said:
DanielSan said:
Silly version of events - Mclaren announce Indycar program for 2019 onwards in partnership with Andretti, the car will be Honda powered and Alonso will go and do that next season, possibly becoming champion in his debut season like Mansell.
Vandoorne and Norris in the Mclaren F1 seats next season.
That sounds entirely plausible...... the effect of the McLaren name in indycar along with Alonso will open up Indycar to Europe big time. Bearing in mind that McLaren's boss is big into Indycar and runs his own IMSA car.Vandoorne and Norris in the Mclaren F1 seats next season.
super7 said:
Need to remember that Williams is listed in the German Stock Exchange and as such are entirely responsible to it's Shareholders.
Ownership is as follows: Frank Williams (52.25%); Brad Hollinger (14.75%); Patrick Head 9%; 20% on the public market place; and 4% is held by the trust fund employee.Only 20% is listed, shareholders have minimal power.
thegreenhell said:
super7 said:
DanielSan said:
Silly version of events - Mclaren announce Indycar program for 2019 onwards in partnership with Andretti, the car will be Honda powered and Alonso will go and do that next season, possibly becoming champion in his debut season like Mansell.
Vandoorne and Norris in the Mclaren F1 seats next season.
That sounds entirely plausible...... the effect of the McLaren name in indycar along with Alonso will open up Indycar to Europe big time. Bearing in mind that McLaren's boss is big into Indycar and runs his own IMSA car.Vandoorne and Norris in the Mclaren F1 seats next season.
Vaud said:
super7 said:
Need to remember that Williams is listed in the German Stock Exchange and as such are entirely responsible to it's Shareholders.
Ownership is as follows: Frank Williams (52.25%); Brad Hollinger (14.75%); Patrick Head 9%; 20% on the public market place; and 4% is held by the trust fund employee.Only 20% is listed, shareholders have minimal power.
thegreenhell said:
super7 said:
Alonso is ONLY with Toyota to win LeMans! I doubt they have any say if he wanted to drive a Honda Indycar.
Has he not signed to do the full season, which actually runs until Le Mans 2019?super7 said:
At some point Williams need to decide that they need to put decent drivers in their cars. Not just look at how much they bring to the team. I reckon there's a lot of russian money in SMP waiting to come in, so Stroll is not as safe as he has been, even with daddys millions (curious how Tommy Hillfigure sponsor Mercedes!)
IMO at least two things are in play with Williams. This seasons car is a radical departure in terms of philosophy and signals the ambition of Paddy Lowe, De Beer etc. These guys are not on board to plod along in 15th. It has not been successful as yet, but with Williams' resources who'd expect it to be? And why blow the budget on big name drivers when car and team is in a transitional state? Financially speaking, Williams were not in a good way a few years ago. When Mercedes came knocking for Bottas, they cashed that cheque. When papa Stroll showed up, they cashed that check. When Sirotkin appeared, they cashed that cheque. Now they have more financial security as a team and may be able to start following through on that ambition... with one eye on a possible cost cap.I am optimistic that they are at the beginning of something. The technical direction of the team indicated that they are no longer content to build a basic, slippery car which will go well in Italy and Canada by virtue of Mercedes engine advantage. I think they fully intend to go racing.
HustleRussell said:
IMO at least two things are in play with Williams. This seasons car is a radical departure in terms of philosophy and signals the ambition of Paddy Lowe, De Beer etc. These guys are not on board to plod along in 15th. It has not been successful as yet, but with Williams' resources who'd expect it to be? And why blow the budget on big name drivers when car and team is in a transitional state? Financially speaking, Williams were not in a good way a few years ago. When Mercedes came knocking for Bottas, they cashed that cheque. When papa Stroll showed up, they cashed that check. When Sirotkin appeared, they cashed that cheque. Now they have more financial security as a team and may be able to start following through on that ambition... with one eye on a possible cost cap.
I am optimistic that they are at the beginning of something. The technical direction of the team indicated that they are no longer content to build a basic, slippery car which will go well in Italy and Canada by virtue of Mercedes engine advantage. I think they fully intend to go racing.
I'd like to agree, I'm just worried that they built a car that was slower than last years, not even "no gain"... I am optimistic that they are at the beginning of something. The technical direction of the team indicated that they are no longer content to build a basic, slippery car which will go well in Italy and Canada by virtue of Mercedes engine advantage. I think they fully intend to go racing.
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