The Official F1 2019 silly season *contains speculation*
Discussion
StevieBee said:
HustleRussell said:
Is nobody entertaining the idea that silly season 2018/19 might have been massively over hyped and will ultimately disappoint?
Was thinking the same thing.Nothing much is going to change over the next three years. Both the WDC and WCC titles will be thrashed out between Mercedes and Ferrari. Red Bull will do enough to keep both teams honest.
Vettel and Hamilton will only jump ship if they believe another team will have the best car. And both are - I suspect - quite happy with the other driver in their respective teams.
Either may decide they've had enough but I rather suspect that unlikely anytime soon.
Seb has been less than tactful in a couple of things said about the team, nothing big $ but are cracks appearing, could the Italians impatience be about to run out? They'd have to go with Danny and he could do well in red. Or they could be courting Danny in the hope it will "motivate" seb - be careful Dan.
I doubt Lewis will ever be asked drive in red and I don't think it would work anyway; aside from other issues his biggest flaw as a driver .is his temprement and he's just not robust enough for Italian politics I think.
suffolk009 said:
Alonso to Indy
Seb to McLaren
Ric to Ferrari
or
Alonso to Indy
Bottas to McLaren
Ric to Merc
Seb to McLaren? Why. What possible reason would he do that or how did you come to that conclusion? If Mclaren had been solid 3rd best snapping at the heels of the top two this year that may make them a consideration for a top level driver but Mclaren are a spent force and will not be a top 3 next season.Seb to McLaren
Ric to Ferrari
or
Alonso to Indy
Bottas to McLaren
Ric to Merc
slipstream 1985 said:
Seb to McLaren? Why. What possible reason would he do that or how did you come to that conclusion? If Mclaren had been solid 3rd best snapping at the heels of the top two this year that may make them a consideration for a top level driver but Mclaren are a spent force and will not be a top 3 next season.
Obviously, it's all guesswork! But if Vettel falls out with Ferrari (these things happen; if he has a lacklustre season, if his nose gets put out by an incoming Riccardo), where else would he go?suffolk009 said:
slipstream 1985 said:
Seb to McLaren? Why. What possible reason would he do that or how did you come to that conclusion? If Mclaren had been solid 3rd best snapping at the heels of the top two this year that may make them a consideration for a top level driver but Mclaren are a spent force and will not be a top 3 next season.
Obviously, it's all guesswork! But if Vettel falls out with Ferrari (these things happen; if he has a lacklustre season, if his nose gets put out by an incoming Riccardo), where else would he go?The Red Bull - Honda possibility throws up a lot of complications
I can't imagine that Honda would want their engine branding as a TAG Heuer
If the engine was branded a Honda, I can't imagine Aston Martin sponsoring the team.
Aston Martin are sponsoring the team as they are interested in entering in 2021 with a branded (Cosworth ?) engine
In that case, would Honda want to supply Red Bull for just two seasons....
I can't imagine that Honda would want their engine branding as a TAG Heuer
If the engine was branded a Honda, I can't imagine Aston Martin sponsoring the team.
Aston Martin are sponsoring the team as they are interested in entering in 2021 with a branded (Cosworth ?) engine
In that case, would Honda want to supply Red Bull for just two seasons....
Redlake27 said:
The Red Bull - Honda possibility throws up a lot of complications
I can't imagine that Honda would want their engine branding as a TAG Heuer
If the engine was branded a Honda, I can't imagine Aston Martin sponsoring the team.
Aston Martin are sponsoring the team as they are interested in entering in 2021 with a branded (Cosworth ?) engine
In that case, would Honda want to supply Red Bull for just two seasons....
I thought Renault had already given notice (at the end of last year) that they did not wish to supply them in 2019? I can't imagine that Honda would want their engine branding as a TAG Heuer
If the engine was branded a Honda, I can't imagine Aston Martin sponsoring the team.
Aston Martin are sponsoring the team as they are interested in entering in 2021 with a branded (Cosworth ?) engine
In that case, would Honda want to supply Red Bull for just two seasons....
suffolk009 said:
Redlake27 said:
The Red Bull - Honda possibility throws up a lot of complications
I can't imagine that Honda would want their engine branding as a TAG Heuer
If the engine was branded a Honda, I can't imagine Aston Martin sponsoring the team.
Aston Martin are sponsoring the team as they are interested in entering in 2021 with a branded (Cosworth ?) engine
In that case, would Honda want to supply Red Bull for just two seasons....
I thought Renault had already given notice (at the end of last year) that they did not wish to supply them in 2019? I can't imagine that Honda would want their engine branding as a TAG Heuer
If the engine was branded a Honda, I can't imagine Aston Martin sponsoring the team.
Aston Martin are sponsoring the team as they are interested in entering in 2021 with a branded (Cosworth ?) engine
In that case, would Honda want to supply Red Bull for just two seasons....
FourWheelDrift said:
They might want the driver contracts sorted before they announce the engine just in case they say Honda and Ricciardo says ta ta sport.
According to Motorsport.com, the opposite is true- Horner is saying that he wants to secure the engine supplier before the driver, and has put a date of 'June or July' on the engine decision. The reason being that Honda and Renault are both introducing a spec II engine in Canada. I wonder how patient Ricciardo is feeling. Neither Honda nor Red Bull will inspire him with confidence that Red Bull can give him a championship car.
FourWheelDrift said:
They might want the driver contracts sorted before they announce the engine just in case they say Honda and Ricciardo says ta ta sport.
Honda are rumoured to want a japanese driver in one of their cars so I doubt the are going to leave when planning that however it's not like they don't have form for leaving and taking their ball with them. TBH I hope they stay and make it work as a 4-5 year project leaving having failed to make a competative (race winning engine) would be a bigger disaster than taking that long to finally get it right. Also good for the sport to have as many engine suppliers as possible.As much as there is all the hype about RB changing engines, I’ll be amazed if they don’t stick with Renault. Come 2021 they’ll be with someone else whoever it is but it’d be a daft move for the sakes of 2 years. Without Red Bull, Renault would be having no success in F1 at the moment, like it or not RB are more useful to Renault than the other way round.
The performance between the Renault and Honda engines seems pretty much identical now, they’re both about as reliable as each other, i think Red Bull would still be third best team whichever of the 2 donkeys end up in the back of the car. The advantage of them doing the swap is more in Honda’s benefit than anything else, they’d have double the R&D data overnight and Red Bull would possibly even assist in the development rather than taking the Mclaren way of telling them what they want and refusing to compromise in any way on their side
The performance between the Renault and Honda engines seems pretty much identical now, they’re both about as reliable as each other, i think Red Bull would still be third best team whichever of the 2 donkeys end up in the back of the car. The advantage of them doing the swap is more in Honda’s benefit than anything else, they’d have double the R&D data overnight and Red Bull would possibly even assist in the development rather than taking the Mclaren way of telling them what they want and refusing to compromise in any way on their side
slipstream 1985 said:
Honda are rumoured to want a japanese driver in one of their cars
That’ll be Hartley’s seat. Neither of the Japanese drivers who are in the frame are setting the world alight. Red Bull are spoiled for driving talent right now with their current line-up, Sainz on a piece of elastic, Pierre Gasly coming on nicely.HustleRussell said:
slipstream 1985 said:
Honda are rumoured to want a japanese driver in one of their cars
That’ll be Hartley’s seat. Neither of the Japanese drivers who are in the frame are setting the world alight. Red Bull are spoiled for driving talent right now with their current line-up, Sainz on a piece of elastic, Pierre Gasly coming on nicely.Gassing Station | Formula 1 | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff