F1 TV - Initial Impressions

[Deesee]

geeks said:

Sam993 said:

geeks said:

Sam993 said:

Chrisgr31 said:

I think the commentary team is Will Buxton and someone else. They did the NBC commentary last year. I guess they are using Sky for the archive stuff as thats what they have.

Would be great if they could hire Ben Edwards from C4 once C4 is done with F1. He's my favourite commentator out of the current English speaking F1 bunch. Him and Coulthard make a good unbiased team (unlike Croft and Brundle).

Interesting thing opinion isn't it? Personally can't stand Edwards or DC, while I am far from Crofts biggest fan, I quite enjoy Brundles insights and the rest of the Sky team, the rest of the C4 team aren't up to much IMO either.

Still, life would be boring if we all liked the same thing!

Opinion is one thing but facts are such that C4 team comes across as more knowledgeable whereas Sky uses lots of "expert" sounding filler e.g. C4 knew straightaway what happened when Vettel pitted under VSC in Australia whereas Sky team were clueless. I can't stand Brundle for exactly that. Once he retires I see Joylon Palmer as his successor, he's already started so good luck to him.

Calm down petal!

Ha ha,

Channel 4 showed that race on highlights, not live, I’d hope the commentary team got it right once they had 5/6 hours to do the production.

Liberty and Sky are very much twinned when it comes to world broadcasting (sky are already doing North America, as well as Germany and Italy ( all be it with native speakers).

[Sam993]

geeks said:

Sam993 said:

geeks said:

Sam993 said:

Chrisgr31 said:

I think the commentary team is Will Buxton and someone else. They did the NBC commentary last year. I guess they are using Sky for the archive stuff as thats what they have.

Would be great if they could hire Ben Edwards from C4 once C4 is done with F1. He's my favourite commentator out of the current English speaking F1 bunch. Him and Coulthard make a good unbiased team (unlike Croft and Brundle).

Interesting thing opinion isn't it? Personally can't stand Edwards or DC, while I am far from Crofts biggest fan, I quite enjoy Brundles insights and the rest of the Sky team, the rest of the C4 team aren't up to much IMO either.

Still, life would be boring if we all liked the same thing!

Opinion is one thing but facts are such that C4 team comes across as more knowledgeable whereas Sky uses lots of "expert" sounding filler e.g. C4 knew straightaway what happened when Vettel pitted under VSC in Australia whereas Sky team were clueless. I can't stand Brundle for exactly that. Once he retires I see Joylon Palmer as his successor, he's already started so good luck to him.

Calm down petal!

Wagwan Martin, have you got some of your nauseating words of "wisdom" for us?

[geeks]

Sam993 said:

geeks said:

Sam993 said:

geeks said:

Sam993 said:

Chrisgr31 said:

I think the commentary team is Will Buxton and someone else. They did the NBC commentary last year. I guess they are using Sky for the archive stuff as thats what they have.

Would be great if they could hire Ben Edwards from C4 once C4 is done with F1. He's my favourite commentator out of the current English speaking F1 bunch. Him and Coulthard make a good unbiased team (unlike Croft and Brundle).

Interesting thing opinion isn't it? Personally can't stand Edwards or DC, while I am far from Crofts biggest fan, I quite enjoy Brundles insights and the rest of the Sky team, the rest of the C4 team aren't up to much IMO either.

Still, life would be boring if we all liked the same thing!

Opinion is one thing but facts are such that C4 team comes across as more knowledgeable whereas Sky uses lots of "expert" sounding filler e.g. C4 knew straightaway what happened when Vettel pitted under VSC in Australia whereas Sky team were clueless. I can't stand Brundle for exactly that. Once he retires I see Joylon Palmer as his successor, he's already started so good luck to him.

Calm down petal!

Wagwan Martin, have you got some of your nauseating words of "wisdom" for us?

I have been accused of many things in my life, being from Norfolk isn't one of them

I am not Martin Brundle, you may not claim your £5!

Seriously though different folks, different strokes, I like the Sky setup for F1, that doesnt make me right, nor does you enjoying the C4 stuff make you right it just means we have different tastes, Jolyon could be a good pundit but I don't see it personally, JB on the other hand seems to have done well when called up!

[Mr Pointy]

Deesee said:

Channel 4 showed that race on highlights, not live, I’d hope the commentary team got it right once they had 5/6 hours to do the production

You clearly don't realise that the commentary is done live & then just edited for length afterwards. There simply isn't the time or the facilites to record the race, edit it, replay it while the commentators talk, & then play it back out to go on air. You can always tell when commentary is done remotely (off-tube) as it sounds so stilted & the audio mix of voice & background noise is just wrong.

[Deesee]

Mr Pointy said:

Deesee said:

Channel 4 showed that race on highlights, not live, I’d hope the commentary team got it right once they had 5/6 hours to do the production

You clearly don't realise that the commentary is done live & then just edited for length afterwards. There simply isn't the time or the facilites to record the race, edit it, replay it while the commentators talk, & then play it back out to go on air. You can always tell when commentary is done remotely (off-tube) as it sounds so stilted & the audio mix of voice & background noise is just wrong.

I do realise how it works thanks, and it’s quite easy in post production to shift and show what you want, considering how many times it was discussed during the race, considering C4 will have access to FOM direct feeds for highlights and will pick and show, chop and cut, what they feel is right they can drop the appropriate commentary in.

Infact that’s there remit for the majority of races this year, as there not live, the grid walk, the driver interviews will all flow without the “fillers” & waiting that happen on live tv.

Consider that match of the day may have 5/6 matches shown (rather than one race) they can always re show the var/penalty decision and position the commentary as the right/wrong/controversial decision.

Look at 24 hour news channels, live to the event then when then cut back to the discussion one to two hours after, don’t they tend to look a little more polished?

Live commentary is a little different to post production.

Anyway , great season so far and can not wait for next race

Best!

[Mr Pointy]

Deesee said:

I do realise how it works thanks, and it’s quite easy in post production to shift and show what you want, considering how many times it was discussed during the race, considering C4 will have access to FOM direct feeds for highlights and will pick and show, chop and cut, what they feel is right they can drop the appropriate commentary in.

Infact that’s there remit for the majority of races this year, as there not live, the grid walk, the driver interviews will all flow without the “fillers” & waiting that happen on live tv.

Consider that match of the day may have 5/6 matches shown (rather than one race) they can always re show the var/penalty decision and position the commentary as the right/wrong/controversial decision.

Look at 24 hour news channels, live to the event then when then cut back to the discussion one to two hours after, don’t they tend to look a little more polished?

Live commentary is a little different to post production.

Anyway , great season so far and can not wait for next race

Best!

I have no idea what point you are trying to make with the gibberish you have posted. Commentators (for F1 or football) are employed because they can talk accurately live, on air, first time. There isn't the time or money to piss around doing re-takes of commentary & then drop those re-takes into the edit. If they did, you'd hear it as the acoustics are different for a start (the cars or crowd have gone home). If you think that the F1 commentary is done afterwards, explain how Ben Edwards throws to Chandok or Mckenzie & does a two way with them. Do they hang around in the pit lane for a few hours until the edit's finished? Of course they don't.

The initial production process is no different for a race shown live on C4 or one that is not. If the C4 team made a more accurate call on on something than the Sky team did it's beacause they picked up on it live, not because they mulled it over & dropped it in to the edit later.

[Teddy Lop]

Has the service settled down and been more reliable?

Anyone sucessfully vpn' it to the UK?

I'm paying about £45 maybe more to sky and about the only thing we watch is F1 and a few snooker matches on eurosport.

[The Moose]

Honestly, I don’t know. I will be trying F1 TV again next season and see what happens.

[Deesee]

Teddy Lop said:

Has the service settled down and been more reliable?

Anyone sucessfully vpn' it to the UK?

I'm paying about £45 maybe more to sky and about the only thing we watch is F1 and a few snooker matches on eurosport.

I looked at getting a Nord VPN, but the stumbling block I found was not having a credit/debit card from a country where f1 tv broadcast so a non runner.

Sky to be fair did the sports pack for 15£ a month for 18 months so I signed back up.

There are dozens of decent streams, but that’s not something I agree with, however one work around we used was to manual tune a freesat box for RTL in Germany, you may have to move your dish, and unsure if HD available without a special viewing card.

Edited by Deesee on Sunday 2nd December 12:51

[WonkeyDonkey]

Mr Pointy said:

I have no idea what point you are trying to make with the gibberish you have posted. Commentators (for F1 or football) are employed because they can talk accurately live, on air, first time. There isn't the time or money to piss around doing re-takes of commentary & then drop those re-takes into the edit. If they did, you'd hear it as the acoustics are different for a start (the cars or crowd have gone home). If you think that the F1 commentary is done afterwards, explain how Ben Edwards throws to Chandok or Mckenzie & does a two way with them. Do they hang around in the pit lane for a few hours until the edit's finished? Of course they don't.

The initial production process is no different for a race shown live on C4 or one that is not. If the C4 team made a more accurate call on on something than the Sky team did it's beacause they picked up on it live, not because they mulled it over & dropped it in to the edit later.

I'm pretty sure some foreign countries use channel 4's commentary feed as well so it is all done live.

[carl_w]

Deesee said:

I looked at getting a Nord VPN, but the stumbling block I found was not having a credit/debit card from a country where f1 tv broadcast so a non runner.

I have a FairFX USD card but obviously it's registered to me in the UK. Would something like this work? https://www.usunlocked.com

[Deesee]

carl_w said:

Deesee said:

I looked at getting a Nord VPN, but the stumbling block I found was not having a credit/debit card from a country where f1 tv broadcast so a non runner.

I have a FairFX USD card but obviously it's registered to me in the UK. Would something like this work? https://www.usunlocked.com

Should do, 99 usd pa for the states, seems to work with iTunes too.

[Teddy Lop]

Deesee said:

Teddy Lop said:

Has the service settled down and been more reliable?

Anyone sucessfully vpn' it to the UK?

I'm paying about £45 maybe more to sky and about the only thing we watch is F1 and a few snooker matches on eurosport.

I looked at getting a Nord VPN, but the stumbling block I found was not having a credit/debit card from a country where f1 tv broadcast so a non runner.

Sky to be fair did the sports pack for 15£ a month for 18 months so I signed back up.

There are dozens of decent streams, but that’s not something I agree with, however one work around we used was to manual tune a freesat box for RTL in Germany, you may have to move your dish, and unsure if HD available without a special viewing card.

Edited by Deesee on Sunday 2nd December 12:51

I have no qualms with streams when the rights owners prat their customers around with such vastly differing charges but I want to sit down and watch something that works.

I guess the rtl is German commentary and has ads right? Used to have a motorized dish way back when and would flip over to rtl when itv snuck an ad break in.

Is f1tv available in Australia does anyone know? We have family there and they'd get English commentary (sky team probably)

[Stan the Bat]

WonkeyDonkey said:

Mr Pointy said:

I have no idea what point you are trying to make with the gibberish you have posted. Commentators (for F1 or football) are employed because they can talk accurately live, on air, first time. There isn't the time or money to piss around doing re-takes of commentary & then drop those re-takes into the edit. If they did, you'd hear it as the acoustics are different for a start (the cars or crowd have gone home). If you think that the F1 commentary is done afterwards, explain how Ben Edwards throws to Chandok or Mckenzie & does a two way with them. Do they hang around in the pit lane for a few hours until the edit's finished? Of course they don't.

The initial production process is no different for a race shown live on C4 or one that is not. If the C4 team made a more accurate call on on something than the Sky team did it's beacause they picked up on it live, not because they mulled it over & dropped it in to the edit later.

I'm pretty sure some foreign countries use channel 4's commentary feed as well so it is all done live.

Yes, they do.
I watched one in Malta last year which used the CH4 team, saw it live and it was one of those that CH4 didn't show live in UK.

[The Moose]

I’m us based if anyone wants some help...