Private plate coming off best way to do it?

Private plate coming off best way to do it?

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AJB88

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12,399 posts

171 months

Friday 20th July 2018
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All looking for some advise.

I have put my car up for sale again, last time I did this I took the plate off before I put it up for sale, this time I haven't taken it off, I have been out of the country most of last month and this month so haven't really had time.

A guy wants to come look at it on Monday now, problem is if I remove the plate in the morning online its instant, I have plates already with the other reg on so that's not an issue.

The problem is, if the guy wants to buy it, I wont have the correct log book to send off until the one comes with the normal reg on it, is there a way around this?

I'm guessing if I was to send the new owners section off the current (private plate) log book they will reject it because its the wrong reg?

DT398

1,745 posts

148 months

Friday 20th July 2018
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Don’t you just put your private plate on retention and wait for the new V5 to come through with the DVLA allocated age related plate? Keep a screen shot of the transaction to show the buyer. The new V5 should only take a few days. I think if you sign the car over to the buyer using the V5 with the private plate, then the plate goes with the car.

Someone who knows more might be along in a minute.....

AJB88

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12,399 posts

171 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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Yeh thats what I'm saying, so if he comes on Monday and says I will have it, I'm going to have to make him wait till the day the V5 comes before he can take it.

Going to remove plate in morning online then call insurance to update.

danzltiu

585 posts

202 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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When you put plate on retention you should be able to print out details from DVLA detailing changes (back to original reg number probably). Went through same thing last week.

AJB88

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171 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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danzltiu said:
When you put plate on retention you should be able to print out details from DVLA detailing changes (back to original reg number probably). Went through same thing last week.
Yeh I've done that now, until the log book comes I can't do anything though in terms of transfering the car if I need to!

I've just noticed you can now transfer a car online as well.

littleredrooster

5,537 posts

196 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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AJB88 said:
... so haven't really had time.
But you had time to compose and place the advert, though, which possibly takes longer than putting the plate on retention...

The 6 Ps. Or 5 Ps, depending on which school of Management you follow. smile

Red Devil

13,060 posts

208 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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AJB88 said:
I've just noticed you can now transfer a car online as well.
Yes, you can. But not if you want to retain a private/cherished VRM.

gov.uk said:
You can take the registration number off the vehicle if you want to keep it. You must do this before you tell DVLA you sold your vehicle.
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https://www.gov.uk/sold-bought-vehicle/y/no/sold-i...

If you do the transfer online or give the buyer the green New Keeper V5C/2, you're stuffed.

AJB88

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Saturday 21st July 2018
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littleredrooster said:
But you had time to compose and place the advert, though, which possibly takes longer than putting the plate on retention...

The 6 Ps. Or 5 Ps, depending on which school of Management you follow. smile
Doesn't matter how much time I've had on my hands while sat on the beach... Without the 11 digit reference off the Current V5 I couldn't do it.

or are you one of them people that goes on Holiday with their cars V5 in suitcase.

Edited by AJB88 on Saturday 21st July 19:06

Timbuktu

1,953 posts

155 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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When buying a car recently the owner took his private plate off the car online a day or two before we viewed it.

This meant he couldn't give us the new logbook as he didn't have it back yet and the old one was invalid so we couldn't tax it and had to drive it home untaxed.

I'm not sure if the police would let you off if you had just bought it, some might but some might not. Luckily we didn't have to find out.

You might want to tell the buyer this before he comes to view in case he wants to wait until you've got the latest logbook.

AJB88

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Saturday 21st July 2018
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Red Devil said:
https://www.gov.uk/sold-bought-vehicle/y/no/sold-i...

If you do the transfer online or give the buyer the green New Keeper V5C/2, you're stuffed.
Plate's off now done it all this morning.

Just got to wait for the V5 now, it said 3-5 days.

littleredrooster

5,537 posts

196 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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AJB88 said:
littleredrooster said:
But you had time to compose and place the advert, though, which possibly takes longer than putting the plate on retention...

The 6 Ps. Or 5 Ps, depending on which school of Management you follow. smile
Doesn't matter how much time I've had on my hands while sat on the beach... Without the 11 digit reference off the Current V5 I couldn't do it.

or are you one of them people that goes on Holiday with their cars V5 in suitcase.

Edited by AJB88 on Saturday 21st July 19:06
Ironically, my V5 was in a document folder (as required by French law) on holiday when I returned yesterday, but I didn't realise that anyone would be sad enough to generate and place a car advert whilst sitting on the beach.

Touché.

AJB88

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Saturday 21st July 2018
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Timbuktu said:
You might want to tell the buyer this before he comes to view in case he wants to wait until you've got the latest logbook.
He's aware was discussed yesterday

Red Devil

13,060 posts

208 months

Sunday 22nd July 2018
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AJB88 said:
Red Devil said:
https://www.gov.uk/sold-bought-vehicle/y/no/sold-i...

If you do the transfer online or give the buyer the green New Keeper V5C/2, you're stuffed.
Plate's off now done it all this morning.

Just got to wait for the V5 now, it said 3-5 days.
yes

I should have mentioned that you can do the retention online as well.
https://www.gov.uk/keep-registration-number

The physical plate is irrelevant. It's what the DVLA record says that counts.

AJB88

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171 months

Sunday 22nd July 2018
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Yeh did the retention online yesterday, insurance advised etc. just not physically changed the plates over yet but its parked on private drive anyway so not an issue.

Jon39

12,825 posts

143 months

Sunday 22nd July 2018
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A related general question, hope you do not mind OP.

Using the online service, it is an instant transaction.
Say a transfer from one car to another is done by the old fashioned posting the form method.
Not instant, so if the applicant goes away from home for a time, and the new V5Cs (posted back) sits on their hall floor for several days, they are then driving a car displaying the wrong number plates.

It could be awkward, because it might take two or three weeks to be dealt with by DVLA.
Being away when the DVLA envelope has arrived, obviously means you are unaware, so has anyone heard of any prosecutions for such a technicality?








AJB88

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12,399 posts

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Sunday 22nd July 2018
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Jon39 said:

A related general question, hope you do not mind OP.

Using the online service, it is an instant transaction.
Say a transfer from one car to another is done by the old fashioned posting the form method.
Not instant, so if the applicant goes away from home for a time, and the new V5Cs (posted back) sits on their hall floor for several days, they are then driving a car displaying the wrong number plates.

It could be awkward, because it might take two or three weeks to be dealt with by DVLA.
Being away when the DVLA envelope has arrived, obviously means you are unaware, so has anyone heard of any prosecutions for such a technicality?







Lets say I did it this way, I posted it off, then drove the car to the airport and went abroad. While I was abroad they processed it.

the easiest way to check would be to check if the car is taxed, if I put the private plate in and it didn't find it then I would know its been changed.



Jon39

12,825 posts

143 months

Monday 23rd July 2018
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AJB88 said:
Lets say I did it this way, I posted it off, then drove the car to the airport and went abroad. While I was abroad they processed it.

the easiest way to check would be to check if the car is taxed, if I put the private plate in and it didn't find it then I would know its been changed.

Before the online transfer system was introduced, all applicants would have faced the 'should I still be driving the car' aspect, but I suppose there were not so many electronic number plate readers then.

Say you did not find the private plate in your search, so presumed the change had already taken place, then arrived back at the airport at 10:00 pm. You cannot buy number plates, so should you drive home, or leave the car and hope to catch a train?

However, if you had not checked, it would appear unfair to be guilty of an offence, because the DVLA letter had not yet been seen.
Electronic fines, do not take that into account.though.













AJB88

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Monday 23rd July 2018
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Jon39 said:

Before the online transfer system was introduced, all applicants would have faced the 'should I still be driving the car' aspect, but I suppose there were not so many electronic number plate readers then.

Say you did not find the private plate in your search, so presumed the change had already taken place, then arrived back at the airport at 10:00 pm. You cannot buy number plates, so should you drive home, or leave the car and hope to catch a train?

However, if you had not checked, it would appear unfair to be guilty of an offence, because the DVLA letter had not yet been seen.
Electronic fines, do not take that into account.though.












There's a period of grace I think? couple of days, I've got both plates made up anyway so in that situation would sling the others in the boot.

AJB88

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171 months

Saturday 28th July 2018
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Log book arrived Wednesday, Retention letter Thursday.

sue20

1,092 posts

147 months

Saturday 28th July 2018
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I’ve just taken a plate off online. It was really simple but there’s no mention of paying the VED which i do monthly by DD. On my bank statement it shows my (private) reg. I assume it just changes over automatically?