F1 2021 concept car image leaked

F1 2021 concept car image leaked

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Eric Mc

122,010 posts

265 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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IforB said:
It is called cause and effect.

You are describing the end benefits for airliners and then saying you don't understand why an F1 car would care about those. I am saying that aircraft use the principle for one reason and F1 cars use the same principle for another benefit.

What actually happens is the same, but why F1 or aircraft designers use them is different.
Because an F1 car front wing is upside down I was wondering would the finlets have the same effect - especially when on the F1 car the finlets effectively are turned towards the high pressure part of the wing rather than the low pressure part of the wing.

The fact that current F1 car designers prefer horizontal extensions and fairly short, blocky vertical endplates to the front wing rather than swoopy upturns indicates to me that on a car, this is more effective.





I certainly think tall vertical finlets look more aesthetic than the current rather fussy set ups we see - and that might be the only reason they featured in the picture.

48Valves

1,949 posts

209 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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sparta6 said:
Matthen said:
The wheels are coming in size at least (although I doubt the alloys will look like that...) - it's a good thing IMO. More relevant to road car technology, and also allows makes the suspension setup far more important than it is at present. Should hopefully add variance to the result of races, as teams try different setups.
yes, although hitting kerbs with lower profile tyres isn't always a good thing
Then don't hit the curbs!

Evangelion

7,724 posts

178 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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Still got bloody stupid wings on, therefore of no interest to me whatsoever.

sparta6

3,696 posts

100 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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48Valves said:
Then don't hit the curbs!
let's see how many drivers will adhere to that principal biggrin

Eric Mc

122,010 posts

265 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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Evangelion said:
Still got bloody stupid wings on, therefore of no interest to me whatsoever.
Hear hear.

rev-erend

21,413 posts

284 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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Silly question.

How does the driver get in and out .. looks like they will need a crane.

AndrewEH1

4,917 posts

153 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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rev-erend said:
Silly question.

How does the driver get in and out .. looks like they will need a crane.
Either ejector seat, or a robot racer controlled via and Xbox controller wink

But on a more serious note I'd wish they've pivot to using the aero-screen instead

rev-erend

21,413 posts

284 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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sparta6 said:
yes, although hitting kerbs with lower profile tyres isn't always a good thing
Easy, don't hit the kerbs.

Evangelion

7,724 posts

178 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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rev-erend said:
sparta6 said:
yes, although hitting kerbs with lower profile tyres isn't always a good thing
Easy, don't hit the kerbs.
If track limits were enforced the way i think they should be, then they wouldn't be allowed to hit the kerbs.

geeks

9,178 posts

139 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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Evangelion said:
rev-erend said:
sparta6 said:
yes, although hitting kerbs with lower profile tyres isn't always a good thing
Easy, don't hit the kerbs.
If track limits were enforced the way i think they should be, then they wouldn't be allowed to hit the kerbs.
Not true at all I am afraid, kerbs are part of the track!

chunder27

2,309 posts

208 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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You cant polish a t***

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

152 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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Eric Mc said:
Evangelion said:
Still got bloody stupid wings on, therefore of no interest to me whatsoever.
Hear hear.
Still raging against 50 year old technology I see Evangelion smile

Eric Mc

122,010 posts

265 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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That;'s when the rot set in.

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

152 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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Eric Mc said:
That;'s when the rot set in.
Meh - all racing cars should be primarily about efficacy.

If you are interested in looking good and going slower - salon prive is that way ----------------->

Is my humble opinion

Evangelion

7,724 posts

178 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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Vocal Minority said:
Still raging against 50 year old technology I see Evangelion smile
Eric Mc said:
That's when the rot set in.
And I'll still be raging against it when it's a hundred years old, if I live that long. If gravity was good enough for Fangio and Moss, then it should be good enough for Hamilton and Vettel.

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

152 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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Crapping in a bowl under his bed was good enough for Isaac Newton - what's your point?

Eric Mc

122,010 posts

265 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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Interesting observation raised by Mark Hughes or Motorsport magazine -

"There’s actually been less visual progression in the last 40-odd years than in the single decade that preceded that".

In other words, a car from 1978 is more similar in appearance to a 2018 car than a 1968 car is to a 1978 car. He has a point.
Hughes also says that the 2021 vision shows a car which seems to point to a future we all envisaged 20 plus years ago. That's not a lot different to my comment at the beginning of the thread.

Ross Brawn has stated that aesthetics were a key factor in their vision for the 2021 car. He actually said that he wants F1 cars to be something youngsters want to pin posters of in their bedrooms. He has a point too.


LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

196 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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It’s hardly a leak when all 3 concepts are on f1’s own website!

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.2021-a-...

Doink

1,652 posts

147 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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Oilchange said:
I think staying with 13” wheels is a must, the teams all seem to agree on thus as far as I know. 18” wheels on an F1 car look crap imo.
Rubbish, the teams will race what they're told to race as defined by the rules, also remember its only Pirelli now that aren't adverse to making 13" tyres as they're making them currently, no other manufacturer wants to get involved with 13" tyres, they're a thing of the past, we need to move with the times

jason61c

5,978 posts

174 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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I don't get the fuss. Looks like the current cars, slightly melted.

I'm biased though. I only like interesting racing now days.