Lando Norris

[Wills2]

Muzzer79 said:

White-Noise said:

Wills2 said:

White-Noise said:

I was wondering if there was a Lando thread but it was a few pages back.

I saw an article yesterday stating he has given up drinking this year to totally focus on the racing. In my mind this isn't necessarily a good thing. Stress outlets and letting your hair down are absolutely key in life. He mentions last year he went out drinking in Amsterdam the weekend before his win in miami.

I can't help but think this is the wrong approach for him. He's putting too much pressure on himself.

The headline is about a small incident on said night out last year but it's not the most interesting point.

https://www.planetf1.com/news/lando-norris-facial-...

Alcohol is a poison and trigger for anxiety and depression, if he wants to be at his best he's better off not drinking.

Its also a coping mechanism. Depends what works for the individual not what a text book says. I hope he's right in his approach

Er, if one is using alcohol as a "coping mechanism" then that is a big red flag.

There's a reason why elite sportsmen (Cristiano Ronaldo, Harry Kane, Andy Murray to name just three) abstain from alcohol.

I absolutely agree that letting one's hair down and de-stressing is important, but there's absolutely no reason to suggest that those things need to involve alcohol.

Exactly, if alcohol is your coping mechanism then you need to give it up ASAP regardless of your profession.

[Wills2]

vaud said:

Wills2 said:

Alcohol is a poison and trigger for anxiety and depression, if he wants to be at his best he's better off not drinking.

Sure but there is big difference between a few swigs of champagne on the podium / glass of wine once a week and going on a bender in Amsterdam (which I think was the reference for last year)

Thanks for that insight.

[White-Noise]

I think most people use alcohol as a coping mechanism to let their hair down after work or at the weekend and that isn't usually a red flag.

To be honest I'm kind of surprised that any of them drink especially the weekend before a race! But he went out and won that following weekend.

[UKsandman]

White-Noise said:

I think most people use alcohol as a coping mechanism to let their hair down after work or at the weekend and that isn't usually a red flag.

I really don’t think that most people use alcohol has a coping mechanism. It was be a very sad state of affairs if they did.

[PhilAsia]

UKsandman said:

White-Noise said:

I think most people use alcohol as a coping mechanism to let their hair down after work or at the weekend and that isn't usually a red flag.

I really don’t think that most people use alcohol has a coping mechanism. It was be a very sad state of affairs if they did.

Alcohol is just one, of many, enjoyments in life!

Good health, a great partner, family and friends, a job you enjoy, a good meal...etc...

[paulguitar]

PhilAsia said:

UKsandman said:

White-Noise said:

I think most people use alcohol as a coping mechanism to let their hair down after work or at the weekend and that isn't usually a red flag.

I really don’t think that most people use alcohol has a coping mechanism. It was be a very sad state of affairs if they did.

Alcohol is just one, of many, enjoyments in life!

Good health, a great partner, family and friends, a job you enjoy, a good meal...etc...

Coke.
Hookers.

[PhilAsia]

paulguitar said:

PhilAsia said:

UKsandman said:

White-Noise said:

I think most people use alcohol as a coping mechanism to let their hair down after work or at the weekend and that isn't usually a red flag.

I really don’t think that most people use alcohol has a coping mechanism. It was be a very sad state of affairs if they did.

Alcohol is just one, of many, enjoyments in life!

Good health, a great partner, family and friends, a job you enjoy, a good meal...etc...

Coke.
Hookers.

The comfortably numb cotton wool of a heroin dose...

[paulguitar]

PhilAsia said:

paulguitar said:

PhilAsia said:

UKsandman said:

White-Noise said:

I think most people use alcohol as a coping mechanism to let their hair down after work or at the weekend and that isn't usually a red flag.

I really don’t think that most people use alcohol has a coping mechanism. It was be a very sad state of affairs if they did.

Alcohol is just one, of many, enjoyments in life!

Good health, a great partner, family and friends, a job you enjoy, a good meal...etc...

Coke.
Hookers.

The comfortably numb cotton wool of a heroin dose...

Erotic asphyxiation.

[White-Noise]

PhilAsia said:

paulguitar said:

PhilAsia said:

UKsandman said:

White-Noise said:

I think most people use alcohol as a coping mechanism to let their hair down after work or at the weekend and that isn't usually a red flag.

I really don’t think that most people use alcohol has a coping mechanism. It was be a very sad state of affairs if they did.

Alcohol is just one, of many, enjoyments in life!

Good health, a great partner, family and friends, a job you enjoy, a good meal...etc...

Coke.
Hookers.

The comfortably numb cotton wool of a heroin dose...

Pistonheads life

[Sandpit Steve]

There’s apparently a Twitter-mob of “Lando Fans” mass emailing McLaren saying that they’re not treating Lando equally with Oscar, for what appears to be no reason other than Oscar winning races, and McLaren not appealing the first lap incident last weekend.

A couple of examples:
https://x.com/graysonpoole/status/1919915659598631...
https://x.com/f0urmula1/status/1919851231809339561

It appears to be dawning on them that McLaren have the car to beat but Oscar is the favourite to win the championship.

FWIW I think the team are doing as well as Mercedes did with two bulls in one field 2015-16, it’s not an easy job for the team to manage that situation with the championship at stake.

[PhilAsia]

paulguitar said:

PhilAsia said:

paulguitar said:

PhilAsia said:

UKsandman said:

White-Noise said:

I think most people use alcohol as a coping mechanism to let their hair down after work or at the weekend and that isn't usually a red flag.

I really don’t think that most people use alcohol has a coping mechanism. It was be a very sad state of affairs if they did.

Alcohol is just one, of many, enjoyments in life!

Good health, a great partner, family and friends, a job you enjoy, a good meal...etc...

Coke.
Hookers.

The comfortably numb cotton wool of a heroin dose...

Erotic asphyxiation.

Missed these, Paul and WhiteNoise

(not zero alcohol)

[PhilAsia]

Sandpit Steve said:

There’s apparently a Twitter-mob of “Lando Fans” mass emailing McLaren saying that they’re not treating Lando equally with Oscar, for what appears to be no reason other than Oscar winning races, and McLaren not appealing the first lap incident last weekend.

A couple of examples:
https://x.com/graysonpoole/status/1919915659598631...
https://x.com/f0urmula1/status/1919851231809339561

It appears to be dawning on them that McLaren have the car to beat but Oscar is the favourite to win the championship.

FWIW I think the team are doing as well as Mercedes did with two bulls in one field 2015-16, it’s not an easy job for the team to manage that situation with the championship at stake.

It's Twitter!

I agree. McLaren are doing a good job. I trust we will see more ebb and flow of Oscar and Lando for P1 of the WDC. Lando is not done yet, even if Oscar is performing so well. He went for a gap that he probably shouldn't have and had to pass Max after Oscar had shown the McLaren's strengths, the inside line had been cleaned, and the braking points revealed.

I think Lando does look the weaker in overtaking and defending, but perhaps better overall on tyre management. Oscar is stronger on certain tracks and Lando on others, so all to play for IMHO.

[Sandpit Steve]

PhilAsia said:

It's Twitter!

I agree. McLaren are doing a good job. I trust we will see more ebb and flow of Oscar and Lando for P1 of the WDC. Lando is not done yet, even if Oscar is performing so well. He went for a gap that he probably shouldn't have and had to pass Max after Oscar had shown the McLaren's strengths, the inside line had been cleaned, and the braking points revealed.

I think Lando does look the weaker in overtaking and defending, but perhaps better overall on tyre management. Oscar is stronger on certain tracks and Lando on others, so all to play for IMHO.

I agree it’s very close between them. Lando’s weakness has always been his starts, and he put himself in the working place vs MV on Sunday. That gap was always going to close, and Max will keep doing it to him until there’s consequences. Lando doesn’t want to risk the crash though, because with a three-way fight the beneficiary is Oscar.

[PhilAsia]

Sandpit Steve said:

That gap was always going to close, and Max will keep doing it to him until there’s consequences. Lando doesn’t want to risk the crash though, because with a three-way fight the beneficiary is Oscar.

And Max relies on Lando realising that. The problem is Max knows Lando too well, knows he is a sportsman and (edit, knowsLando) will play fair.

[Wheelspinning]

PhilAsia said:

Sandpit Steve said:

That gap was always going to close, and Max will keep doing it to him until there’s consequences. Lando doesn’t want to risk the crash though, because with a three-way fight the beneficiary is Oscar.

And Max relies on Lando realising that. The problem is Max knows Lando too well, knows he is a sportsman and (edit, knowsLando) will play fair.

Exactly.

Max knows that Lando currently gives far too much respect, whereas he knows that Oscar has the ruthless mindset that F1 champions have that seperates them from the runners up.

Oscar pushed Max into making a mistake which very few drivers are capable of.

I felt last year if there was to be a WDC in papaya, it would be Piastri...I think thats how it's going to play out this year.

[cuprabob]

Wheelspinning said:

Exactly.

Max knows that Lando currently gives far too much respect, whereas he knows that Oscar has the ruthless mindset that F1 champions have that seperates them from the runners up.

Oscar pushed Max into making a mistake which very few drivers are capable of.

I felt last year if there was to be a WDC in papaya, it would be Piastri...I think thats how it's going to play out this year.

The bookies would seem to agree with you.

[TheDeuce]

cuprabob said:

Wheelspinning said:

Exactly.

Max knows that Lando currently gives far too much respect, whereas he knows that Oscar has the ruthless mindset that F1 champions have that seperates them from the runners up.

Oscar pushed Max into making a mistake which very few drivers are capable of.

I felt last year if there was to be a WDC in papaya, it would be Piastri...I think thats how it's going to play out this year.

The bookies would seem to agree with you.

Indeed. I only wish I'd put my WDC bet in before this weekend just gone, the return was higher back then!

[cuprabob]

TheDeuce said:

cuprabob said:

Wheelspinning said:

Exactly.

Max knows that Lando currently gives far too much respect, whereas he knows that Oscar has the ruthless mindset that F1 champions have that seperates them from the runners up.

Oscar pushed Max into making a mistake which very few drivers are capable of.

I felt last year if there was to be a WDC in papaya, it would be Piastri...I think thats how it's going to play out this year.

The bookies would seem to agree with you.

Indeed. I only wish I'd put my WDC bet in before this weekend just gone, the return was higher back then!

Me too

Up until last weekend the odds were the same for Oscar & Lando but now Oscar is odds on and Lando's odds have drifted out as have Max's.

[TheDeuce]

cuprabob said:

TheDeuce said:

cuprabob said:

Wheelspinning said:

Exactly.

Max knows that Lando currently gives far too much respect, whereas he knows that Oscar has the ruthless mindset that F1 champions have that seperates them from the runners up.

Oscar pushed Max into making a mistake which very few drivers are capable of.

I felt last year if there was to be a WDC in papaya, it would be Piastri...I think thats how it's going to play out this year.

The bookies would seem to agree with you.

Indeed. I only wish I'd put my WDC bet in before this weekend just gone, the return was higher back then!

Me too

Up until last weekend the odds were the same for Oscar & Lando but now Oscar is odds on and Lando's odds have drifted out as have Max's.

The odds I saw already favoured Piastri, but yea, there wasn't much in it.

But then the guy won his third race in a row - statistically that must be pretty rare for anyone that doesn't then go on to win the championship.

[ralphrj]

TheDeuce said:

The odds I saw already favoured Piastri, but yea, there wasn't much in it.

But then the guy won his third race in a row - statistically that must be pretty rare for anyone that doesn't then go on to win the championship.

You have me looking for examples! It has happened a few times:

2021 Hamilton (Sao Paulo, Qatar, Saudi Arabia)
2016 Hamilton actually won 4 consecutive races twice during the season without taking the title (Austria, Britain, Hungary, Germany and USA, Mexico, Brazil, Abu Dhabi)
2015 Rosberg (Mexico, Brazil, Abu Dhabi)
2006 Schumacher (USA, France, Germany)
1998 Schumacher (Canada, France, Britain)
1994 Hill (Belgium, Italy, Portugal)
1993 Hill (Hungary, Belgium, Italy)
1991 Mansell (France, Britain, Germany)
1990 Prost (Mexico, France, Britain)
1989 Senna (San Marino, Monaco, Mexico)

Undoubtedly there are more but I should get on with some work...