Lando Norris

[thegreenhell]

TheDeuce said:

HTP99 said:

carl_w said:

Adrian W said:

I'm surprised the new year honours haven't been mentioned, they really don't like motorsport.

I think the recipients were notified months ago. He only wrapped up the title just over 3 weeks ago.

Hamilton was award his OBE in 2009, the year after hist first title.

Also most people would have said he was the hot talent in F1 at that time - which can't really be said of Lando, because Max.

You need to win titles to win honours but not all titles win an honour.

Hamilton's first honour was an MBE, not OBE, as was Jenson's. This is a lesser honour than an OBE.

Graham Hill wasn't given an OBE until six years after his first F1 WDC, after he had also won the Indy 500. He was also reportedly offered a knighthood in 1975, but didn't live long enough to receive it.

John Surtees had to wait until 2011 to be honoured for his F1 success with an OBE, although he already had an MBE for his motorcycle success in 1959.

James Hunt is the only British WDC not to be receive any official honour, not counting Mike Hawthorn who died so soon after his WDC, before he could be honoured.

Even antipodean champions Jack Brabham, Denny Hulme and Alan Jones received British honours.

[TheDeuce]

thegreenhell said:

TheDeuce said:

HTP99 said:

carl_w said:

Adrian W said:

I'm surprised the new year honours haven't been mentioned, they really don't like motorsport.

I think the recipients were notified months ago. He only wrapped up the title just over 3 weeks ago.

Hamilton was award his OBE in 2009, the year after hist first title.

Also most people would have said he was the hot talent in F1 at that time - which can't really be said of Lando, because Max.

You need to win titles to win honours but not all titles win an honour.

Hamilton's first honour was an MBE, not OBE, as was Jenson's. This is a lesser honour than an OBE.

Graham Hill wasn't given an OBE until six years after his first F1 WDC, after he had also won the Indy 500. He was also reportedly offered a knighthood in 1975, but didn't live long enough to receive it.

John Surtees had to wait until 2011 to be honoured for his F1 success with an OBE, although he already had an MBE for his motorcycle success in 1959.

James Hunt is the only British WDC not to be receive any official honour, not counting Mike Hawthorn who died so soon after his WDC, before he could be honoured.

Even antipodean champions Jack Brabham, Denny Hulme and Alan Jones received British honours.

Whatever the level of honour, does Lando deserve one yet? I'd say that I was surprised and impressed that he turned it around and lifted the trophy, but he simply wasn't the finest of the competitors this (last..) season.

I'm extremely happy he won but I think it's a bit wonky for a nation to bestow an honour on a sportsperson if the rest of the world can plainly see they weren't actually the highest talent in the competition.

[Hustle_]

Derek Smith said:

isaldiri said:

Tbf, it would be quite amusing to tote up all the posters who were confidently proclaiming that Norris would never beat Piastri earlier in the season (and some were doing so last year even when Norris had a huge points lead over his teammate)........

And the opposite:

Hustle_ said:

This is the beginning of Norris turning it around.

from June.

Very glad he did it. We are reminded that it is possible to win a WDC while experiencing human feelings and exhibiting human emotions.

[thegreenhell]

TheDeuce said:

Whatever the level of honour, does Lando deserve one yet? I'd say that I was surprised and impressed that he turned it around and lifted the trophy, but he simply wasn't the finest of the competitors this (last..) season.

I'm extremely happy he won but I think it's a bit wonky for a nation to bestow an honour on a sportsperson if the rest of the world can plainly see they weren't actually the highest talent in the competition.

Does that matter, though? The history books will simply show that he won one of the tightest championships for years.

History has also shown that winning a major international sporting championship or tournament usually results in a gong of some sort.

[TheDeuce]

thegreenhell said:

TheDeuce said:

Whatever the level of honour, does Lando deserve one yet? I'd say that I was surprised and impressed that he turned it around and lifted the trophy, but he simply wasn't the finest of the competitors this (last..) season.

I'm extremely happy he won but I think it's a bit wonky for a nation to bestow an honour on a sportsperson if the rest of the world can plainly see they weren't actually the highest talent in the competition.

Does that matter, though? The history books will simply show that he won one of the tightest championships for years.

History has also shown that winning a major international sporting championship or tournament usually results in a gong of some sort.

Exactly, he won - he has that.

Perhaps he will also get the gong... I'm just pointing out that it's somewhat less likely to celebrate a national 'hero' if they're generally acknowledged to have not been the biggest hero in the competition.

Do you think he was the man of the 2025 season?

[thegreenhell]

TheDeuce said:

Do you think he was the man of the 2025 season?

No, but he scored the most points. More points than the man of the season...

[TheDeuce]

thegreenhell said:

TheDeuce said:

Do you think he was the man of the 2025 season?

No, but he scored the most points. More points than the man of the season...

Which is why he has the title but may well not be 'hounered' this time.

We have to wait and see of course.

[thegreenhell]

I feel like predictions that he won't get a gong will go the same way as the predictions that he'll never win a title.

[oyster]

carl_w said:

hondajack85 said:

What a load of rubbish. He had to battle a teamate with equal status and ability. He would have polished of the title ages ago if he had what the others enjoyed.

Indeed, plus it's hard to see how he could have done any better then 1st in the WDC.

Wouldn't it be good if there was some sort of points system that determined the best driver, rather than a bunch of journos' vibes and opinions?

Indeed.
Being rated number 1 in Motorsport is worth ZERO points in the WDC.

He’s won 2 WCCs and a WDC. Childhood dream accomplished.

[thegreenhell]

Autosport have applied the F1 points system to multiple driver ranking lists to produce a 'definitive' ranking.

[TheDeuce]

thegreenhell said:

Autosport have applied the F1 points system to multiple driver ranking lists to produce a 'definitive' ranking.

It's always going to be Max.

Nice to apply the data to make the point though

[richhead]

thegreenhell said:

I feel like predictions that he won't get a gong will go the same way as the predictions that he'll never win a title.

Agree, there does seem to be alot dissing Lando on here for the last few years, at the end of the day the history books will mark him as 2025 wdc, not many of us can say that, so yes a gong is deserved.
This year would have been to soon as the winners are decided before the end of the F1 season.

I for one am proud to have worked with him in the past, and proud that he is an english man.
Why as a nation are we so quick to knock our great achievers.

Yes he has had daddies money, but who else in modern racing hasnt, but he has worked bloody hard for the title, for most of his life, against better cars and a very good team mate.

[732NM]

Lewis is the first active F1 driver to be knighted, that didn't happen until he had 7 championships, receiving it in 2021.

He received the MBE in 2009 after his first championship. That's the likely outcome.

Lots of work ahead.

[Wish]

richhead said:

Agree, there does seem to be alot dissing Lando on here for the last few years, at the end of the day the history books will mark him as 2025 wdc, not many of us can say that, so yes a gong is deserved.
This year would have been to soon as the winners are decided before the end of the F1 season.

I for one am proud to have worked with him in the past, and proud that he is an english man.
Why as a nation are we so quick to knock our great achievers.

Yes he has had daddies money, but who else in modern racing hasnt, but he has worked bloody hard for the title, for most of his life, against better cars and a very good team mate.

I agree. He has come through the ranks quickly and no matter how much money his father has, he’s also got the talent.
He also comes across as a really nice lad.

[Muzzer79]

TheDeuce said:

thegreenhell said:

TheDeuce said:

HTP99 said:

carl_w said:

Adrian W said:

I'm surprised the new year honours haven't been mentioned, they really don't like motorsport.

I think the recipients were notified months ago. He only wrapped up the title just over 3 weeks ago.

Hamilton was award his OBE in 2009, the year after hist first title.

Also most people would have said he was the hot talent in F1 at that time - which can't really be said of Lando, because Max.

You need to win titles to win honours but not all titles win an honour.

Hamilton's first honour was an MBE, not OBE, as was Jenson's. This is a lesser honour than an OBE.

Graham Hill wasn't given an OBE until six years after his first F1 WDC, after he had also won the Indy 500. He was also reportedly offered a knighthood in 1975, but didn't live long enough to receive it.

John Surtees had to wait until 2011 to be honoured for his F1 success with an OBE, although he already had an MBE for his motorcycle success in 1959.

James Hunt is the only British WDC not to be receive any official honour, not counting Mike Hawthorn who died so soon after his WDC, before he could be honoured.

Even antipodean champions Jack Brabham, Denny Hulme and Alan Jones received British honours.

Whatever the level of honour, does Lando deserve one yet? I'd say that I was surprised and impressed that he turned it around and lifted the trophy, but he simply wasn't the finest of the competitors this (last..) season.

I'm extremely happy he won but I think it's a bit wonky for a nation to bestow an honour on a sportsperson if the rest of the world can plainly see they weren't actually the highest talent in the competition.

Bit like Gareth Southgate getting a knighthood for finishing second twice?

[Arkose]

Wish said:

richhead said:

Agree, there does seem to be alot dissing Lando on here for the last few years, at the end of the day the history books will mark him as 2025 wdc, not many of us can say that, so yes a gong is deserved.
This year would have been to soon as the winners are decided before the end of the F1 season.

I for one am proud to have worked with him in the past, and proud that he is an english man.
Why as a nation are we so quick to knock our great achievers.

Yes he has had daddies money, but who else in modern racing hasnt, but he has worked bloody hard for the title, for most of his life, against better cars and a very good team mate.

I agree. He has come through the ranks quickly and no matter how much money his father has, he s also got the talent.
He also comes across as a really nice lad.

This, hope he smashes 2026 more than 2025 to prove the doubters wrong!

[Big Nanas]

Confirmed that Woking and McLaren will NOT be hosting any events in Woking to celebrate Lando's win.

quote:

a spokesperson said: "I'm afraid we won't be hosting any celebrations in Woking this time unfortunately as the team are super busy preparing for the season ahead."


Oh well.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdexldx9y40o

[Mammasaid]

The best 24 hours of my life

[Wills2]

Muzzer79 said:

Bit like Gareth Southgate getting a knighthood for finishing second twice?

If we'd won 9 out of the last 18 world cups then Gareth would have been getting nothing, it's about what is expected to happen vs what happens see Andy Murray and Bradley Wiggins for details, Hamilton's achievements go above and beyond any driver hence the knighthood a British driver winning the WDC isn't extraordinary.

[paulguitar]

Wills2 said:

Muzzer79 said:

Bit like Gareth Southgate getting a knighthood for finishing second twice?

If we'd won 9 out of the last 18 world cups then Gareth would have been getting nothing, it's about what is expected to happen vs what happens see Andy Murray and Bradley Wiggins for details, Hamilton's achievements go above and beyond any driver hence the knighthood a British driver winning the WDC isn't extraordinary.

I think a large part of Hamilton's knighthood was for work done outside of sport.