The Official USA GP 2018 thread *spoilers*
Discussion
davidd said:
shirt said:
HTP99 said:
I do think it's odd that the FIA can inspect and say its fine but the stewards at any given race can have the final say, if a complait is lodged.
Not true. Local scrutineers are there to observe and report, marshals to control course safety and flagging. Both report into the FIA who are the only ones who have any authority (and ability) to investigate and judgeBottas has been demonstrating this fundamental truth fantastically well.
shirt said:
‘Stewards’ is a broad term covering all race marshals, scrutineers and officials.
Races are staffed by the local motorsport authority or organisation. They have very little say on anything and are really event management/facilitators. The FIA is the technical authority. Charlie is the law.
Wrong on Stewards, right on Charlie Races are staffed by the local motorsport authority or organisation. They have very little say on anything and are really event management/facilitators. The FIA is the technical authority. Charlie is the law.
https://www.formula1.com/en/championship/inside-f1...
Just watching a rerun in an idle moment.
Yes says 23s is the magic number Hamilton needs to be in front of Kimi to cover a pit stop.
Croft clearly says that time has gone down to 19/20 seconds because the cars are faster now.
Has the pit lane speed limit changed? I think not, so how can the time needed have changed.
Maybe I’ve got a blind spot to this but if anyone knows......
Yes says 23s is the magic number Hamilton needs to be in front of Kimi to cover a pit stop.
Croft clearly says that time has gone down to 19/20 seconds because the cars are faster now.
Has the pit lane speed limit changed? I think not, so how can the time needed have changed.
Maybe I’ve got a blind spot to this but if anyone knows......
shirt said:
So officials then, which is what i said!
All FIA appointed. May differ each round but still the FIA, still reporting to Charlie. Noone from the local sporting authority who can decide what is and isn’t legal, which is the point i was countering.
Well nearly, a marshal isn't a steward (not in F1 at any rate). The Stewards (all FIA appointed) that people talk about in F1 sit in a room and make decisions about stuff like All FIA appointed. May differ each round but still the FIA, still reporting to Charlie. Noone from the local sporting authority who can decide what is and isn’t legal, which is the point i was countering.
HTP99 said:
OK but why can an item be declared legal one week, then not the next, if it's the same people making the judgements?
Because the Stewards are different at each race. If something is declared legal it doesn't mean another team can't dispute it, they could claim it falls foul of a different regulation to the one it was initially questioned on (if that makes sense).D
Deesee said:
Great first lap here from the much maligned Hartley.
Some of the corners resemble driving through a demolition derby.
8 places gained and the best sounding PU on the Grid?
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.cutting...
Super drive from him.
like others I didn’t think that was too good, he outbraked himself after going past the mclaren and nearly shot off the end of the track, and also ran himself wide right near the end of the lap on the 2nd or 3rd last corner?Some of the corners resemble driving through a demolition derby.
8 places gained and the best sounding PU on the Grid?
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.cutting...
Super drive from him.
Both looked like unforced errors to me.
CoolHands said:
ike others I didn’t think that was too good, he outbraked himself after going past the mclaren and nearly shot off the end of the track, and also ran himself wide right near the end of the lap on the 2nd or 3rd last corner?
Both looked like unforced errors to me.
Considering he had sBoth looked like unforced errors to me.
t all over his tyres from running off line all along the straight, he did a very good job of slowing the car without spinning or hitting anything. He let the brakes off and ran longer to retain control with dirty tyres. Grosjean didn't do this and look what happened to him.It was quicker to run off track near the end of the lap. I would have done the same to make a gap to the car behind on the first lap.
They had 3 fouls before they got a penalty for running off on that corner, he used one there to make sure he wasnt going to be passed up the pit straight.
Vettel did the same thing last year after his pit stop to reduce his out lap time.
All those moves were sensible and had reasons behind them.
It seems no matter what Brendon does, some will stick the boot in. He had a good race weekend in Austin, soundly beat Gasly when Gasly's car had the aero updates and Brendon's didn't.
Deesee said:
Well Brendon thought it went ok.
https://www.racefans.net/2018/10/27/hartley-gaslys...
Either way this doesn't bode well for him being retained for 19
Torro Rosso are the poisoned chalice for a driver wanting to develop at any pace other than showing instant speed.
Brendon has been getting better all season and he is now as quick as Gasly in an F1 car, but that team are always looking for the next kid, so i wouldn't be surprised if he loses his drive there, despite now doing a good enough job to justify another season.
It would be a shame to see him not getting the chance to continue to develop, not only because he has the talent, but because he is a decent bloke and not some snotty nosed entitled kid. The sport needs more blokes like Brendon, there is no gravitas to seeing another teenage kid plugged in, only to be dumped when the next one turns up.
Brendon has been getting better all season and he is now as quick as Gasly in an F1 car, but that team are always looking for the next kid, so i wouldn't be surprised if he loses his drive there, despite now doing a good enough job to justify another season.
It would be a shame to see him not getting the chance to continue to develop, not only because he has the talent, but because he is a decent bloke and not some snotty nosed entitled kid. The sport needs more blokes like Brendon, there is no gravitas to seeing another teenage kid plugged in, only to be dumped when the next one turns up.
The biggest question from this race has finally been answered
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/austin-neeeow-m...
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/austin-neeeow-m...
thegreenhell said:
The biggest question from this race has finally been answered
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/austin-neeeow-m...
Brilliant...https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/austin-neeeow-m...
Swampy1982 said:
thegreenhell said:
The biggest question from this race has finally been answered
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/austin-neeeow-m...
Brilliant...https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/austin-neeeow-m...
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