2019 Tyre Nonsense

[Wh00sher]

Seems like a sensible move to me. The average person who watches a race doesn`t care what the actual makeup of the compound is, just if it is hard, medium or soft. Pirelli will still release the technical specs before each weekend explaining what the actual compounds are for those who are bothered.

Why make it any more complex than it needs to be for the casual viewer.

[kambites]

Those who care about actual compounds will understand what's happening anyway; those who don't care will have a nice easy three-colour system to tell them what little they need to know.

[Dermot O'Logical]

If you're going to have more than one tyre supplier then the restrictions on testing will have to be lifted.

[Mr_Thyroid]

Dermot O'Logical said:

If you're going to have more than one tyre supplier then the restrictions on testing will have to be lifted.

I don't see why. If 10 different teams can build and run machines with thousands of components on limited testing, why can't a couple of suppliers of round bits of rubber?

[Kraken]

Gaz. said:

Which would give teams a chance to catch up...

Or put them even further behind as it gives more data to the teams who have the money and staff to make use of it. Assuming the smaller teams can even afford to test more in the first place.

[The Moose]

Mr Pointy said:

This one is for all of the simpletons who were moaning about being unable to cope with the current concept of seven tyre grades & identifying colours:

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/pirelli-reveals...

Right, so a red soft tyre may actually be a 1,2 or 3 or an A, B or C compound. That's not confusing at all. I trust the whingers are happy now.

I for one am pleased they are making this change. Makes so much more sense for people who are not F1 anoraks. That’s where the money is!

[Mr Pointy]

I see the way Pirelli are going to identify the tyre compounds has been released:
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/barcelona-testi...

There are five tyres types & of the first four races three will use compounds 2,3 & 4, so white, yellow & red. Seems clear enough. Bahrain will use compunds 1,2 & 3. That's white, white with a stripe & yellow. When the tyres are going round how are the viewers going to quickly tell the difference between the first two?

I always thought this was a rubbish idea.

[Fundoreen]

Kraken said:

The fact that someone is on a "soft" tyre and someone else is on a "medium" is all that is really relevant within the race itself. The fact that the soft might be two levels softer than the one used at the previous race is totally irrelevant to what goes on in the current race.

I know,its as simple as that. The whole sport seems to be for dumbells that think its clever to know pointless information. Glad someone has cracked down on this at last.
I bet those bozos commentating will still go on about tweets regarding last weeks tyres etc etc though.They cant help it.

[HardtopManual]

Mr Pointy said:

I see the way Pirelli are going to identify the tyre compounds has been released:
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/barcelona-testi...

There are five tyres types & of the first four races three will use compounds 2,3 & 4, so white, yellow & red. Seems clear enough. Bahrain will use compunds 1,2 & 3. That's white, white with a stripe & yellow. When the tyres are going round how are the viewers going to quickly tell the difference between the first two?

Odd. I thought we were going to have white, yellow and red tyres at each grand prix, but with the colour mapping to a different compound depending on the demands of he circuit. I'm not opposed to renaming the tyres simply soft, medium and hard, but it seems that we'll now no longer be able to tell the difference between the soft (1) & medium (2) or the medium (4) & hard (5), and we're pretty much guaranteed that commentators will refer to them as compounds 1 to 5.

Crofty won't be able to help himself. "Vettel is on the red-marked tyre - that's the red tyre with a stripe, as opposed to the red tyre without a stripe - which is compound number two, which is the medium this weekend". I don't really see how that's an improvement on "Vettel is on the ultra-soft".

[LeoSayer]

kambites said:

Those who care about actual compounds will understand what's happening anyway; those who don't care will have a nice easy three-colour system to tell them what little they need to know.

I agree, it's a sensible move.

Only F1 geeks will care that the softs are the same compound as the mediums in the previous race and I'm sure this information will be readily available.

[fbc]

Mr Pointy said:

I see the way Pirelli are going to identify the tyre compounds has been released:
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/barcelona-testi...

There are five tyres types & of the first four races three will use compounds 2,3 & 4, so white, yellow & red. Seems clear enough. Bahrain will use compunds 1,2 & 3. That's white, white with a stripe & yellow. When the tyres are going round how are the viewers going to quickly tell the difference between the first two?

I always thought this was a rubbish idea.

That's for the test only. Actual race weekends will use the consistent three-colour method regardless of actual compound.

[Vaud]

Graveworm said:

Can they also sort out this weekend tyre thing. As CH suggested why not have tyres per session or day. That way we would not have spectators sitting in the rain watching an empty track and TV companies filming drivers playing angry birds because they are saving inters for Quali and Sunday. I would still keep the Quali 2 tyre to start the race on for the top 10 though.

But it's not just about tyres, it's also to minimise engine/PU/magic beans mileage.

[rallycross]

what a load of crap just give them hard tyres they can race flat out on and stop artificially affecting lap times with rubbish tyres that fall apart if driven to the cars full potential. Its supposed to be a race to the finish.

[Kraken]

rallycross said:

what a load of crap just give them hard tyres they can race flat out on and stop artificially affecting lap times with rubbish tyres that fall apart if driven to the cars full potential. Its supposed to be a race to the finish.

We've had that and guess what? Everyone bhed and whined that the race was over by the end of the first lap and wouldn't it be great if the tyres degraded.

It was the fans that asked, via the FIA fan survey, for tyres that degraded after a great Canadian GP where the tyres wore rapidly and unexpectedly a good few years back.

[The Moose]

Mr Pointy said:

I see the way Pirelli are going to identify the tyre compounds has been released:
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/barcelona-testi...

There are five tyres types & of the first four races three will use compounds 2,3 & 4, so white, yellow & red. Seems clear enough. Bahrain will use compunds 1,2 & 3. That's white, white with a stripe & yellow. When the tyres are going round how are the viewers going to quickly tell the difference between the first two?

I always thought this was a rubbish idea.

Did you bother to read to even the second paragraph of the article you linked before posting this?

[Mr Pointy]

The Moose said:

Mr Pointy said:

I see the way Pirelli are going to identify the tyre compounds has been released:
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/barcelona-testi...

There are five tyres types & of the first four races three will use compounds 2,3 & 4, so white, yellow & red. Seems clear enough. Bahrain will use compunds 1,2 & 3. That's white, white with a stripe & yellow. When the tyres are going round how are the viewers going to quickly tell the difference between the first two?

I always thought this was a rubbish idea.

Did you bother to read to even the second paragraph of the article you linked before posting this?

No, I was too outraged to read it properly. Oops. Anyway, ony 47 days to go.