Formula 1 2019 Season - Car Launch Dates

Formula 1 2019 Season - Car Launch Dates

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REALIST123

10,617 posts

91 months

Tuesday 12th February
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sgtBerbatov said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
Smollet said:
Sammo123 said:
Looks like I’m the only one who likes the Williams livery then. Toro Rosso looks exactly the same as last year and the Haas doesn’t have enough gold.
I quite like Williams livery as well
I think the Williams looks great, strange that people are bemoaning the Torro Rosso, when they moved to that livery everyone said it looked fantastic-rightly so. What do they expect now it looks good, for them to change it rotate
To be fair they could paint the the thing pink with yellow polka dots on it, with Noel Edmonds ugly mug on it, as long as it's a better car than last year that's all that matters.
Exactly. Just build a decent car, FFS.

CLare Williams:

“We are telling the world a very clear story and clear message as to where we are as a company," added Claire, who said moving away from the team's traditional colours shows they are a "fresh, revitalised brand".

Where’s that then Clare? Back of the field again”?

"Frank is very protective of the traditional navy blue and white, but also understanding of the arguments behind the change.

"He is fully behind it. I am still here, and if he didn't like it, he would have fired me."

A pity hedidn’t fire you.

37chevy

2,258 posts

94 months

Tuesday 12th February
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sgtBerbatov said:
To be fair they could paint the the thing pink with yellow polka dots on it, with Noel Edmonds ugly mug on it, as long as it's a better car than last year that's all that matters.
To be fair, Noel Edmunds has a good record and taste in cars.....anyone remember his involvement with the Panoz GTR1 back in 97 :-)

Supersam83

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177 posts

83 months

Tuesday 12th February
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The Renault F1 RS19:








DanielSan

13,689 posts

105 months

Tuesday 12th February
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I wish Renault would go back to the Matte Liquid Yellow from 2017, the car just seems to get more and more black every year.

And please God let it be fast...

HorneyMX5

4,369 posts

88 months

Tuesday 12th February
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I like that a lot.
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37chevy

2,258 posts

94 months

Tuesday 12th February
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Damn that a flat bottom element on the front wing ! I like it, best launch car so far

Andy S15

230 posts

65 months

Tuesday 12th February
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Looks like another spot the difference case for my eyes.

andburg

3,040 posts

107 months

Tuesday 12th February
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looks good, not sure its as interesting as the toro rosso but its interesting tthe main front wing plane doesnt appear to be stepped and moved to a RBR style high rake concept.

Vaud

30,834 posts

93 months

Tuesday 12th February
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Andy S15 said:
Looks like another spot the difference case for my eyes.
The rules are so tight these days that there seems precious little to distinguish them, and it's even harder to tell with the liveries.

sgtBerbatov

883 posts

19 months

Tuesday 12th February
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37chevy said:
sgtBerbatov said:
To be fair they could paint the the thing pink with yellow polka dots on it, with Noel Edmonds ugly mug on it, as long as it's a better car than last year that's all that matters.
To be fair, Noel Edmunds has a good record and taste in cars.....anyone remember his involvement with the Panoz GTR1 back in 97 :-)
I do, I remember being "sick" from school and watching the documentary about it on Channel 4!

Fire99

9,467 posts

167 months

Tuesday 12th February
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I don't mind the liveries, in fact I'd go as far as to say I don't really care what colours they are. (Though I do have a bias towards the old Lotus Black n Gold).
However, the protrusion of the front wing on all the released cars, looks horrid and ungainly. How you would risk a close overtaking move with that lump of carbon sticking out like a giant wand, is a mystery!

IanUAE

2,706 posts

102 months

Tuesday 12th February
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The car launches so far are renders and not the real cars so the aero details I bet are being hidden and will only be revealed when the cars hit the track. For example the Torro Ross car you can see through the air box as the intercoolers haven't been modeled.

RobGT81

5,071 posts

124 months

Tuesday 12th February
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Anyone else concerned for Williams and Haas with their slightly dubious looking sponsors?

rallycross

9,563 posts

175 months

Tuesday 12th February
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RobGT81 said:
Anyone else concerned for Williams and Haas with their slightly dubious looking sponsors?
I’d guess Williams dodged a bullet with the beardy con man but after that, there was probably not much left on the table for back marked teams.

Big brands are not interested in sponsoring F1 any more - pay per view means real audience figures (live viewing/engaged audiences) have plummeted - how much would a brand want to pay Williams F1 being watched by av’ of less than 2m UK live viewers per race (being lapped?)

Lentilist

270 posts

13 months

Tuesday 12th February
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37chevy said:
Ikemi said:
https://www.racefans.net/2019/02/11/haas-sponsor-r...

Rich Energy vs. ATB Sales (Whyte Bikes) over copied logo ...
Don’t see a problem personally.....errrrrrr

https://whyte.bike/?_escaped_fragment_=Peter-Lloyd...


OOPS....no drinks, copied logo....this is going well
Chris Grayling will be giving them a cross Channel ferry contract shortly.

HorneyMX5

4,369 posts

88 months

Tuesday 12th February
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British and American Tobacco have signed a reasonably sized deal with McLaren. Seems crazy that tobacco sponsorship has been banned for years yet BAT and Phillip Morris still pump millions into F1 sponsorship deals every year.

tigerkoi

2,388 posts

136 months

Tuesday 12th February
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Vaud said:
Kraken said:
About as imaginative as ROKiT's website for products you can't buy yet (seems to be a trend).
Decent backer though in this case:

https://www.pcmag.com/news/365842/rokit-has-the-wi...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Paul_DeJoria

He does at least have some money...
I wouldn’t get too hung up on the ‘highlighted’ links to DeJoria. Sure he’s a well known guy - Stateside mainly - but if you look through his career/business arc he’s had his hands in numerous pies across wildly different areas. Very little literature on exactly how he became a business Titan, but hey, I suppose there must be a way you can have an (estimated) $1.2bn hair product business operating in over 100 countries with only a hundred or so staff, right?

With this RokIt thing, it looks like the strands of the enterprise have a history along the lines of this: middling U.K. marketing and sales managers leave HTC on eve of a big launch. Launch “Kazam”. Just a bitsa smartphone that will ‘change’ the world with low barrier to purchase, but likely knocked up as any smartphone is out of China these days. Then....nothing. Then up pops Wileyfox. Same old faces, same old story. Next thing you know it’s...”...in administration”. Yep. With all those 20-odd “R&D” or boxpackers in some small business park in Wrexham or somewhere being made redundant. Then this Kendrick comes along, another one of these serial ‘entrepreneurs’ and thinks he can now wave new shiny smartphone mockups in an exhibition hall and the newest, greatest smartphone the world will ever see, is coming to you soon.

DeJoria and Kendrick meet up, DeJoria thinks he can throw a few bob at it, like a day at the Kentucky Derby, and there we go. A sort of familiar story of quid pro quo then ensues: “...upfront let’s give Claire something to run with, we gain PR headlights, if it fails then so what, “one up the bum, no harm done”, if it takes off, we better get some white label smartphones out the door quick!”

The RokIt lifestyle package is the bone shaker for me: I doubt people who already have a centurion card, a netjet subscription and all the other accoutrements will be swayed with yet another no brand lifestyle enhancement offering.

What I find so depressing is that Williams is in such a position where it needs to run with these sort of unsubstantiated arrangements. Yes, McLaren is rolling around too in the pigsty but at least it’s pulled off one of the largest blue chips in the world. With Haas, my guess is that Gene Haas doesn’t really need anything on the side of his car, he already has his financial model well screwed in, so the Rich Energy is a ‘Why not’ scenario and if it bombs, so what? There’s little risk there.

Guys like DeJoria sometimes pull off great marketing coups like Patron, and enjoy the sell off. He might be a true presence when it comes to long term sponsorship and financing. But my guess is that Kendrick is like dozens and dozens of these serial entrepreneur types out there, always coming up with something new to relabel or get busy with. High percentage failures await, then it’s onto the next thing. Bottletops. Or hairdryers. Or new snazzy phones.

I’m happy to be wrong, watch Superman reverse the world by flying anti-clockwise back to 2005 (listen to those V10s), and be pleasantly surprised that Elvis did not indeed die on the toilet.

Didn’t Frank Williams used to run his shop out of a telephone box? Formula 1 eh, wasn’t it ever thus.

suffolk009

3,921 posts

103 months

Tuesday 12th February
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37chevy said:
To be fair, Noel Edmunds has a good record and taste in cars.....anyone remember his involvement with the Panoz GTR1 back in 97 :-)
I do recall that. Unfortunately more recently his was on the telly doing a classic car race across IIRC Burma. He was with his wife racing against other celeb teams. I'll watch almost anything with old cars in, and I turned it off. Utter dross.

MiniMan64

11,618 posts

128 months

Tuesday 12th February
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DanielSan said:
I wish Renault would go back to the Matte Liquid Yellow from 2017, the car just seems to get more and more black every year.

And please God let it be fast...
Oh yes please!

I don’t understand why so many teams go black, there’s certainly a few more this year, it’s so depressing and surely a marketing negative!?

HustleRussell

15,686 posts

98 months

Tuesday 12th February
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DanielSan said:
I wish Renault would go back to the Matte Liquid Yellow from 2017, the car just seems to get more and more black every year.

And please God let it be fast...
I liked the 2016 scheme even more and it was all yellow whistle