Mansell's FW14B 'Red Five' to be auctioned
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https://www.bonhams.com/press_release/27543/
If the cockpit is Mansell-sized then there's a chance that I might fit too, unlike most F1 cars of this era!
Any idea who the seller is? I assumed it would still be with Williams, but the blurb says one private owner after Williams.
If the cockpit is Mansell-sized then there's a chance that I might fit too, unlike most F1 cars of this era!
Any idea who the seller is? I assumed it would still be with Williams, but the blurb says one private owner after Williams.
thegreenhell said:
https://www.bonhams.com/press_release/27543/
If the cockpit is Mansell-sized then there's a chance that I might fit too, unlike most F1 cars of this era!
Any idea who the seller is? I assumed it would still be with Williams, but the blurb says one private owner after Williams.
Is there a possibility that this is one of the cars from Wheatcroft's collection?If the cockpit is Mansell-sized then there's a chance that I might fit too, unlike most F1 cars of this era!
Any idea who the seller is? I assumed it would still be with Williams, but the blurb says one private owner after Williams.
Megaflow said:
Anybody else blown away by a) Williams ever sold it, and b) they only expect to get £3m?
What's more use to Williams. A physical manifestation of nostalgia, or a bundle of cash?I wouldn't pay £3m for an old F1 car ever. I'd spend that cash having a lot more fun in a car I could actually drive occasionally/going racing. But then that's all a moot point anyway as I don't have the cash.
Munter said:
What's more use to Williams. A physical manifestation of nostalgia, or a bundle of cash?
I wouldn't pay £3m for an old F1 car ever. I'd spend that cash having a lot more fun in a car I could actually drive occasionally/going racing. But then that's all a moot point anyway as I don't have the cash.
If you have that sort of cash, you have enough to have this a statement piece in your collection and numerous other to have fun in.I wouldn't pay £3m for an old F1 car ever. I'd spend that cash having a lot more fun in a car I could actually drive occasionally/going racing. But then that's all a moot point anyway as I don't have the cash.
I personally would love to own one of MS Championship winning Ferrari's - just to have the kudos of owning one. At 6ft 5 - I'm never fitting into one of them!
This car is in fully working driveable condition. Its not the only one in existence, there are at least 3 others.
For those thinking Nigel was a bit of a porker he was a third dan blackbelt during his time in F1 and for 1992 weighed in less than (not a well known porker) Riccardo Patrese
I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
For those thinking Nigel was a bit of a porker he was a third dan blackbelt during his time in F1 and for 1992 weighed in less than (not a well known porker) Riccardo Patrese
I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
D-Angle said:
Me too. This is the era of F1 I grew up with and it's still the best looking F1 car to my eyes. This will go for a lot more than £3m.
Exactly what I came on to say. This and the McLaren of the same era are definitely the best looking F1 cars ever. No silly appendages all over the place.Slightly off topic, but...
I’m reading Adrian Newey’s book at the moment (how to build a car). I’ve not watched F1 for years as I’ve got more interest in paint drying and listening to nails being scraped down blackboards. However, his book recalls the halcyon days of the mid-1990s F1 with all its heavyweight names and track battles we no longer have today
Adrian’s influence on this very car’s design, and others, is of genuine interest to the petrolhead and I thoroughly recommend it, given if you’ve given up on F1 in recent years
I’m reading Adrian Newey’s book at the moment (how to build a car). I’ve not watched F1 for years as I’ve got more interest in paint drying and listening to nails being scraped down blackboards. However, his book recalls the halcyon days of the mid-1990s F1 with all its heavyweight names and track battles we no longer have today
Adrian’s influence on this very car’s design, and others, is of genuine interest to the petrolhead and I thoroughly recommend it, given if you’ve given up on F1 in recent years
CarHabit said:
I’ve not watched F1 for years as I’ve got more interest in paint drying and listening to nails being scraped down blackboards. However, his book recalls the halcyon days of the mid-1990s F1 with all its heavyweight names and track battles we no longer have today
How do you know if you no longer watch it? Whilst I disagree with the use of DRS it has brought back a lot of the competitive racing.Chassis #10 was for sale a while ago, but was apparently not maintained as a runner (no engine?):
http://www.carsinternational.com/williams-heritage...
I don't know which chassis number Williams Heritage owns, but there's a lovely video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?=1&v=dbmUweOy0G8
http://www.carsinternational.com/williams-heritage...
I don't know which chassis number Williams Heritage owns, but there's a lovely video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?=1&v=dbmUweOy0G8
I was fortunate enough to work on the restoration of this particular car, and would consider it a bargain at twice the price as I am incredibly biased.
On a related note, valuing cars of this nature is a notorious dark art - not least because they tend to pass from owner to owner in a dismantled form, getting re-assembled by "mechanics" from a range of skillsets and backgrounds. I recently went to assess a Jaguar R5 which was described as being in complete condition.... which it was, as a result of a number of Jaguar R4 bits (including the steering wheel!).
But this example is perfect in every way - retired from competition into Williams Heritage storage facility, brought back to life under the supervision of people like Paddy Lowe, test driven by Karun Chandhok and then supported at events by the current Williams F1 crew. Literally, what more could you ask for?
On a related note, valuing cars of this nature is a notorious dark art - not least because they tend to pass from owner to owner in a dismantled form, getting re-assembled by "mechanics" from a range of skillsets and backgrounds. I recently went to assess a Jaguar R5 which was described as being in complete condition.... which it was, as a result of a number of Jaguar R4 bits (including the steering wheel!).
But this example is perfect in every way - retired from competition into Williams Heritage storage facility, brought back to life under the supervision of people like Paddy Lowe, test driven by Karun Chandhok and then supported at events by the current Williams F1 crew. Literally, what more could you ask for?
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