Are Haas embarrassed about Rich Energy?
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Teppic said:
The complete judgement, if anyone is interested:
https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/IPEC/2019/120...
I had a quick read of this. It gives a neat insight into Storey - he is well named, because everything is he says is made up:https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/IPEC/2019/120...
Judgement said:
Mr Storey provided different and inconsistent accounts of the development of D1's Device, which also conflicted to a large extent with the evidence of Mr Kelly. He often did not answer questions directly, preferring to make speeches about his vision for his business or alternatively seeking to evade questions by speaking in generalities or in the third person plural. He only answered several questions when I intervened. He had a tendency to make impressive statements, which on further investigation or consideration were not quite what they seemed. For example, when Mr Wyand in cross-examination tried to understand his evidence about the sales figures of Rich Energy drinks, and put to him that he had been quoted in the press in February 2019 as saying that the First Defendant had produced 90 million cans, Mr Storey explained that it had produced 90 million cans, but had not yet filled and sold them. He said he would have to check the figures, but in 2018 he thought the First Defendant had filled and sold "circa 3 million cans" of Rich Energy drink. In another example, he stated in an impassioned fashion that he was "not in the business of trying to create a world-class business by taking any inspiration from anybody else whatsoever", but his own written evidence was that his starting point when thinking about developing a logo was to carry out logo research on what other drinks companies were doing, and to carrying out internet searches on stag head logos used by other companies. For reasons which I set out below, I am satisfied that some of Mr Storey's evidence was incorrect or misleading and that he was involved in the manufacture of documents during the course of litigation to provide additional support for the Defendants' case.
The unfilled cans part is comedy gold in an 'all the right notes' style.Ahonen said:
The unfilled cans part is comedy gold in an 'all the right notes' style.
Amazing. I skim read the document but missed that bit, so finally a proper, on the record answer to the lack of product and constant stream of BS about products existing. They officially do not exist as a consumable drink.Which brings us neatly back to the original question with RE... where is the money actually coming from?
Andy S15 said:
Ahonen said:
The unfilled cans part is comedy gold in an 'all the right notes' style.
Amazing. I skim read the document but missed that bit, so finally a proper, on the record answer to the lack of product and constant stream of BS about products existing. They officially do not exist as a consumable drink.Which brings us neatly back to the original question with RE... where is the money actually coming from?
Megaflow said:
But, also begs the question, why would you buy 90 million cans? .
Probably so he can legitimately state things like:“The detractors are obviously not on the same planet as you and me. I think a lot of people have put two and two together and got five. I’ve heard these nonsense rumours, whatever, and it’s just completely risible. I just ignore it. Ultimately we’ve just produced 90 million cans. As far as I’m concerned anyone who says it doesn’t exist it’s like saying man never walked on the moon, or Elvis is still alive. It’s just fantasy.”
If only someone asked him if the cans actually contained drink...
I also love the summary the judge made:
“I do not accept either Mr. Storey or Mr. Kelly as credible or reliable witnesses and I treat all of their evidence with a high degree of caution.”
Basically translates from legalese to 'these guys are dodgy b
ds'.Additionally, "In fact, as Mr Storey acknowledged in his witness statement and accepted in cross-examination, the name "Rich Energy" was selected by the Croatian creator of the energy drink formula, Drazen Majstrovic in 2013, when Mr Majstrovic founded a Croatian company, Rich Energy C.O.O, to market his new drink."
So basically on the record admitting that the name 'Rich' has nothing to do with Richmond, as he originally said.
I can't wait for this whole thing to become exposed. In a weird way, I've been a little disappointed that everything had gone quiet and we hadn't heard any more entertaining Storeys recently, but maybe things will get fruity now. Just hope it doesn't drag Haas down with them.
Edited by Andy S15 on Wednesday 15th May 09:48
Ahonen said:
I had a quick read of this. It gives a neat insight into Storey - he is well named, because everything is he says is made up:
He's going to wee in them isn't he.Judgement said:
......... Mr Storey explained that it had produced 90 million cans, but had not yet filled and sold them..................
.Aqua Vita - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK3LduV4-tg
Where does he keep 90 million empty cans, and why?Putting aside all debate of corporate legitimacy, whoever is doing their marketing is either:
a) A marketing genius of epic proportions whose creativity and effects has yet to surface or be manifested into tangible reality but will redefine the profession when they do
or
b) A first year A level student doing business and art
or
c) The office cleaner
a) A marketing genius of epic proportions whose creativity and effects has yet to surface or be manifested into tangible reality but will redefine the profession when they do
or
b) A first year A level student doing business and art
or
c) The office cleaner
Dodgy bd. There’s no way he even has 90000000 cans - he will probably have some worthless agreement in principle in which he promises to purchase that many cans reliant on certain conditions etc etc thus allowing him in his tiny mind to then say he ‘has’ 90000000 cans.
They do not, & never will, exist.
d. There’s no way he even has 90000000 cans - he will probably have some worthless agreement in principle in which he promises to purchase that many cans reliant on certain conditions etc etc thus allowing him in his tiny mind to then say he ‘has’ 90000000 cans. They do not, & never will, exist.
carinaman said:
42 seconds in, apparently this drink makes girls kiss each other. Fair enough, I'm a modern man. I'll take a couple of crates please 
TheDeuce said:
carinaman said:
42 seconds in, apparently this drink makes girls kiss each other. Fair enough, I'm a modern man. I'll take a couple of crates please 
CoolHands said:
The whole thing is so unbelievably st I really can’t believe they got their name plastered all over a decent f1 team. It’s like a joke. They are like the fousands & fousands city traders
They paid, they can display whatever name they want. Even if it's weirdly to their own detriment - it's their choice I guess!t I really can’t believe they got their name plastered all over a decent f1 team. It’s like a joke. They are like the fousands & fousands city traders TheDeuce said:
They paid, they can display whatever name they want. Even if it's weirdly to their own detriment - it's their choice I guess!
Who says they paid? There is no info on that.Mr Haas does not need their money to run the team, he's already shown that.
Maybe Haas are in on the joke and will take a 50% stake of the non existent revenue from sales of the non existent product once it bursts onto the energy drinks market (actually more likely to fizzle than burst onto the market but you know what I mean).
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