Are Haas embarrassed about Rich Energy?

[37chevy]

DanielSan said:

Wasn't this the man who stated Red Bull would suck it up and sign with Renault again for engines because Honda were never going to he good enough?

Well give it time....do you know Honda are going to be good enough yet? Let this season play out then judge

[DanielSan]

LaurasOtherHalf said:

DanielSan said:

rallycross said:

If you are interested in F1 and haven't bothered reading any of his stuff that rather makes you the 'bellend' not him.
There is no better insight into what is really going on behind the scenes in F1 for outsiders than his forum, which is free (and he does not try and monetize it).

https://www.motorsportweek.com/joeblogsf1/

Wasn't this the man who stated Red Bull would suck it up and sign with Renault again for engines because Honda were never going to he good enough?

No, this was the man who had it put to him by a little known podcast that Redbull were signing with Honda to which he scoffed at their sources. 24 hours before they proved to be right.

I'd forgotten all about that little bit of radio gold. Couldn't have timed it any better.

[andrewcliffe]

rallycross said:

The product does not exist in the U.K. ( as in, no you can’t buy any, bit why would anyone want to buy one anyway ?).

On their testimonials page there used to be a glowing citation from Sarah at the NISA local store in Metheringham.

I can go into any garage, corner shop, supermarket and buy any quantity of Red Bull, Monster, Relentless or other energy drinks, but I don't know anyone whose seen a can of Rich Energy in a retail environment.

[SpudLink]

A random yoo toob yoof shares his thoughts.

There’s nothing to enlighten anyone who has been following this for a while, but at least the discussion is being aired.

[S0 What]

I follow aldas, he's pretty good for a yoof
YT has a few good F1 channles, WTF1 and the F1 word, i also notice rich energy sponsor Peter Winsor as well now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqNXKm_nbqo

[AndrewEH1]

S0 What said:

i also notice rich energy sponsor Peter Winsor as well now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqNXKm_nbqo

Well that already dodgy looking channel is now looking even more dodgy!

[RogerExplosion]

They are pumping money into Aussie racing now also. The local Rich facebook page was talking up the product being sold at the F1 but now saying at a few random places around Melbourne on the 13th. The quality of their marketing is highly questionable also. Full of typos and inconsistencies "Thanks for your patients"

Edited by RogerExplosion on Monday 11th March 09:25

[thegreenhell]

RogerExplosion said:

They are pumping money into Aussie racing now also. The local Rich facebook page was talking up the product being sold at the F1 but now saying at a few random places around Melbourne on the 13th. The quality of their marketing is highly questionable too. Full of typos and inconsistencies "Thanks for your patients"

I guess that means it must be available at the hospital.

[tigerkoi]

RogerExplosion said:

They are pumping money into Aussie racing now also. The local Rich facebook page was talking up the product being sold at the F1 but now saying at a few random places around Melbourne on the 13th. The quality of their marketing is highly questionable too. Full of typos and inconsistencies "Thanks for your patients"

I’m glad you spotted that too. It’s an awful looking site and copy; spelling mistakes and the rest of it - there are no excuses. Unless it’s just been knocked up by an individual late one evening...

It’s all this that makes it laughable when people say that a lot of ‘diligence” goes into this sponsor-sniffing lark. If people at the FIA or the likes of Williams & Haas don’t look at basic stuff like this and say, “...yeah that’s a two-bob outfit right there...” and pass, then it says an awful amount about the lack of scrutiny that goes on.

My gut feeling is that Williams didn’t pass on Rich Energy due to any issues around their viability, more they passed because they were desperate for more money than Rich would show upfront. So in essence, it would be interesting to know if Rich were looking to structure a deal that had money forthcoming in greater tranches, if their business spiked off the back of any exposure. Haas can absorb the punt; Williams couldn’t.

[Andy S15]

tigerkoi said:

My gut feeling is that Williams didn’t pass on Rich Energy due to any issues around their viability, more they passed because they were desperate for more money than Rich would show upfront. So in essence, it would be interesting to know if Rich were looking to structure a deal that had money forthcoming in greater tranches, if their business spiked off the back of any exposure. Haas can absorb the punt; Williams couldn’t.

I seem to remember at the time that it was a shock to Williams, they were fully expecting a contract was about to be signed by bother parties to hear the following day that they'd signed with Haas.

I really think all Haas care about is the free cash injection. They couldn't give much of a toss about how legit they are.

[The Moose]

Andy S15 said:

tigerkoi said:

My gut feeling is that Williams didn’t pass on Rich Energy due to any issues around their viability, more they passed because they were desperate for more money than Rich would show upfront. So in essence, it would be interesting to know if Rich were looking to structure a deal that had money forthcoming in greater tranches, if their business spiked off the back of any exposure. Haas can absorb the punt; Williams couldn’t.

I seem to remember at the time that it was a shock to Williams, they were fully expecting a contract was about to be signed by bother parties to hear the following day that they'd signed with Haas.

I really think all Haas care about is the free cash injection. They couldn't give much of a toss about how legit they are.

Aren't Williams one of the few teams who spend less than they earn in terms of sponsorship?

[rallycross]

Is the Beady Wierdo in Melbourne this weekend ?

[rallycross]

rallycross said:

Is the Beady Wierdo in Melbourne this weekend ?

Clearly a genuine sponsor - not!
Zero money to pay for anything.

[anonymous-user]

rallycross said:

Is the Beady Wierdo in Melbourne this weekend ?

Sky Sports F1 just interviewed him.

[noell35]

rallycross said:

rallycross said:

Is the Beady Wierdo in Melbourne this weekend ?

Clearly a genuine sponsor - not!
Zero money to pay for anything.

Must have a bit of money, that hat looks expensive.

[FourWheelDrift]

rallycross said:

noell35 said:

Must have a bit of money, that hat looks expensive.

[rallycross]

tux said:

Sky Sports F1 just interviewed him.

How was the interview? anything interesting come out of it?

[SpudLink]

If they have a genuine product, they need to get it out there. At least they should be handing the stuff out to VIP guests in Melbourne. Otherwise everyone is going to jump to conclusions.
I typed ‘rich energy’ into Google. This is what it predicted I was going to search for...

[RogerExplosion]

Three days walking all over Melbourne circuit and through town. Apart from the Haas stuff and one Aus GT car I did not see a single piece of marketing for Rich Energy. And not too much surprise no product.

[DS240]

Whatever the plan is of ‘rich energy’, surely Haas is only concerned about whether money comes in.

If they have doubts, there’s surely a money up front agreement for continued display of sponsor on car and kit.

Money runs out... stickers come off. Simple.

Deal didn’t work out and move on... would Haas be that embarrassed with that?

Whilst money coming in, who cares at Haas whether they sell cans of drink in the U.K.

If a billionaire walks in and says I want my face and name on the side of the car... here’s 100 million for a year or two. I’d think a face and name would appear on the side of a car. Selling nothing, means nothing, just a vanity project, I’m sure a team would take it.