The Official F1 2020 silly season *contains speculation*
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vaud said:
Alfa need a long term replacement for Kimi. Gio isn't setting the world on fire so maybe 3rd driver for 2020 and then replace Kimi for 2021?
I guess a solid driver like him would rather try a different series but stay on the grid. Besides Kimi is doing good job and doesn't look like to retire soon.Better than Perez one year. Wow sign him now, :hehe
Slow and steady, dependable, as good or a little better than the rest of the midfield. Sure I hear the pros, especially the engineering input, but its hardly exciting and hardly the kind of marketing that ferrari would want. I bet their excitement at such a prospect is even less palpable than mine.
5yrs in the midfield and no podium. Even stroll managed that in a Williams ffs. Being a top bloke doesn’t mean he deserves a go in a front line team, there’s literally nothing in the way of past or current results performance to warrant it.
Slow and steady, dependable, as good or a little better than the rest of the midfield. Sure I hear the pros, especially the engineering input, but its hardly exciting and hardly the kind of marketing that ferrari would want. I bet their excitement at such a prospect is even less palpable than mine.
5yrs in the midfield and no podium. Even stroll managed that in a Williams ffs. Being a top bloke doesn’t mean he deserves a go in a front line team, there’s literally nothing in the way of past or current results performance to warrant it.
Ahonen said:
Thanks.
Someone will still tell me I'm wrong though, I'm sure.
Bingo! Someone will still tell me I'm wrong though, I'm sure.
shirt said:
Better than Perez one year. Wow sign him now, :hehe
Slow and steady, dependable, as good or a little better than the rest of the midfield. Sure I hear the pros, especially the engineering input, but its hardly exciting and hardly the kind of marketing that ferrari would want. I bet their excitement at such a prospect is even less palpable than mine.
5yrs in the midfield and no podium. Even stroll managed that in a Williams ffs. Being a top bloke doesn’t mean he deserves a go in a front line team, there’s literally nothing in the way of past or current results performance to warrant it.
I'm sure you know best, so well done on putting me straight.Slow and steady, dependable, as good or a little better than the rest of the midfield. Sure I hear the pros, especially the engineering input, but its hardly exciting and hardly the kind of marketing that ferrari would want. I bet their excitement at such a prospect is even less palpable than mine.
5yrs in the midfield and no podium. Even stroll managed that in a Williams ffs. Being a top bloke doesn’t mean he deserves a go in a front line team, there’s literally nothing in the way of past or current results performance to warrant it.
shirt said:
Better than Perez one year. Wow sign him now, :hehe
Slow and steady, dependable, as good or a little better than the rest of the midfield. Sure I hear the pros, especially the engineering input, but its hardly exciting and hardly the kind of marketing that ferrari would want. I bet their excitement at such a prospect is even less palpable than mine.
5yrs in the midfield and no podium. Even stroll managed that in a Williams ffs. Being a top bloke doesn’t mean he deserves a go in a front line team, there’s literally nothing in the way of past or current results performance to warrant it.
500+ WDC/WCC points in a car/s that are not even at the front of the mid-field. These points have brought in big money over the years, too tall/heavy in the previous era for a big team, perhaps too old now...Slow and steady, dependable, as good or a little better than the rest of the midfield. Sure I hear the pros, especially the engineering input, but its hardly exciting and hardly the kind of marketing that ferrari would want. I bet their excitement at such a prospect is even less palpable than mine.
5yrs in the midfield and no podium. Even stroll managed that in a Williams ffs. Being a top bloke doesn’t mean he deserves a go in a front line team, there’s literally nothing in the way of past or current results performance to warrant it.
If we are comparing on podiums Grosjean has 10!
What options does Hulkenberg have?
- Alfa Romeo: the problem is that they have a statutory rule (similar to RB/TR) which requires a driver coming from their developement program, optimally with Italian nationality.
- Toro Rosso/Red Bull: as above, Hulk does not quite fit into their driver selection process
- Williams: they need money and will chose a paydriver first and Hulk has no financial backing. Williams will probably conduct an auction with Latifi and maybe some other drivers (from Russia for example). He can still find a sponsor and try to get into Williams but honestly I doubt he would like to given how bad this team is at the moment.
- Alfa Romeo: the problem is that they have a statutory rule (similar to RB/TR) which requires a driver coming from their developement program, optimally with Italian nationality.
- Toro Rosso/Red Bull: as above, Hulk does not quite fit into their driver selection process
- Williams: they need money and will chose a paydriver first and Hulk has no financial backing. Williams will probably conduct an auction with Latifi and maybe some other drivers (from Russia for example). He can still find a sponsor and try to get into Williams but honestly I doubt he would like to given how bad this team is at the moment.
shirt said:
Ahonen said:
I'm sure you know best, so well done on putting me straight.
Well done swinging your ‘I used to work in F1 you know’ balls about for effect but, regardless, please point out where I disregarded your input. 
Ha, you're like a Modern Toss cartoon.I wasn't swinging anything, as you know, because I don't really post here much at all. I was bringing a little personal and professional perspective and insight to try to answer your original point in a constructive manner. I hoped that mentioning I'd worked with him would give the post some credibility but you still referred to him as a mid grid journeyman or whatever it was, so there's no point in us chatting any more.
By the way if you go to visit the Doctor and he gives you his diagnosis do you reply with: "Yeah well done swinging your 'I spent five years at medical school and have a PhD' balls about for effect"?
Wonder whether Haas stuck with Grosjean as behind the scenes Hulk is already signed up for a team in 2020?
I can kind of see why Haas has stuck with Grosjean if that is the case, although not bringing in the points and occasionally looking a bit clumsy he does appear to work hard with the team to develop the car.
I can kind of see why Haas has stuck with Grosjean if that is the case, although not bringing in the points and occasionally looking a bit clumsy he does appear to work hard with the team to develop the car.
bobbo89 said:
Wonder whether Haas stuck with Grosjean as behind the scenes Hulk is already signed up for a team in 2020?
I can kind of see why Haas has stuck with Grosjean if that is the case, although not bringing in the points and occasionally looking a bit clumsy he does appear to work hard with the team to develop the car.
I would say it's more likely that Hulk was asking for a large salary, whereas Big John probably is just desperate to keep his seat and actually took a pay cut... In current Haas times of uncertain financials with sponsorship *ahem* Grosjean was probably less of a financial risk and right now, the Haas isn't capable of performing at a level which would justify Hulk's asking price anyway.I can kind of see why Haas has stuck with Grosjean if that is the case, although not bringing in the points and occasionally looking a bit clumsy he does appear to work hard with the team to develop the car.
Andy S15 said:
I would say it's more likely that Hulk was asking for a large salary, whereas Big John probably is just desperate to keep his seat and actually took a pay cut... In current Haas times of uncertain financials with sponsorship *ahem* Grosjean was probably less of a financial risk and right now, the Haas isn't capable of performing at a level which would justify Hulk's asking price anyway.
Grosjean also brings some sponsorship money from Richard Mille whereas Hulk has no sponsor.
Lebo44 said:
Andy S15 said:
I would say it's more likely that Hulk was asking for a large salary, whereas Big John probably is just desperate to keep his seat and actually took a pay cut... In current Haas times of uncertain financials with sponsorship *ahem* Grosjean was probably less of a financial risk and right now, the Haas isn't capable of performing at a level which would justify Hulk's asking price anyway.
Grosjean also brings some sponsorship money from Richard Mille whereas Hulk has no sponsor.Gassing Station | Formula 1 | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff