The Official F1 2020 silly season *contains speculation*

The Official F1 2020 silly season *contains speculation*

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Evangelion

5,174 posts

123 months

Wednesday 11th September
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AlexS said:
Evangelion said:
Particularly as only 5 of those 8 have actually won races this year.
Only 4 drivers have won a race so far this year. Vettel hasn't been classified as a winner yet.
You are of course correct. Brain fade again!

housen

1,587 posts

137 months

Wednesday 11th September
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Steamer said:
housen said:
Steamer said:
housen said:
JayK12 said:
housen said:
what about hulk in ferrari seat ?

as solid no2 ?
Could do but i just get the feeling they won't. Doesn't Riccardo have a clause in his contract that if the big teams come knocking he can be released?
i hear u ...but if look back at ferraris dominant years with schumi ....Barrichello was firm no 2 ...why rock the boat and pay for 2 good drivers when you only need one ....also like merc currently
Danni Ricc at Ferrari though?.. That doesn't sound quite so preposterous.

When interviewed about his thoughts on having Ocon as a team mate next year his answer was 'I might say hi to him... I might not'. Riccardo is not Ocon's biggest fan as I recall, and life at Renault has been a bit 'meh'.

'IF' a seat was available in a Ferrari, I think he would jump at the chance.
no doubt he would

but doo ferrari want 2 no1s ?
They must have realised by now they really need two No1s.. but they also need to be able to strategize for two cars as well.

I think they would make a good pairing as well - which counts for a huge amount (ie: the final Nico & Hamilton season when compared to the following seasons with Bottas & Hamilton.. okay not exactly both No1. drivers, but Bottas is usually in the top 4 or 5)
well if they can manage it

i would LOVE to see ricci at ferrari

Lebo44

107 posts

5 months

Wednesday 11th September
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My *silly* speculation:
- Kubica to Haas (money + experience)
- Latifi to Williams (money)
- Hulkenberg (too expensive, underperforming in key moments), Grosejan (underperformance) out

Edited by Lebo44 on Wednesday 11th September 09:48

vaud

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33,183 posts

100 months

Wednesday 11th September
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I agree with Grosjean out (to formula E)
I think Kubica will be out as well.
Latifi to Williams - probably.

kiseca

7,560 posts

164 months

Wednesday 11th September
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Grosjean in Formula E? I see potential there. If Maldonado can be convinced to join too, that will be an exciting 14 laps in the next season biggrin

vaud

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33,183 posts

100 months

Wednesday 11th September
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kiseca said:
Grosjean in Formula E? I see potential there. If Maldonado can be convinced to join too, that will be an exciting 14 laps in the next season biggrin
I'm sure one of them could stuff it into a barrier on the warmup lap (do they have that in Formula E?)

kiseca

7,560 posts

164 months

Wednesday 11th September
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vaud said:
kiseca said:
Grosjean in Formula E? I see potential there. If Maldonado can be convinced to join too, that will be an exciting 14 laps in the next season biggrin
I'm sure one of them could stuff it into a barrier on the warmup lap (do they have that in Formula E?)
hehe

cuprabob

7,915 posts

159 months

Wednesday 11th September
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kiseca said:
Grosjean in Formula E? I see potential there. If Ericsson can be convinced to join too, that will be an exciting 14 laps in the next season and he'll have someone to blame biggrin
FTFY

Petrus1983

2,446 posts

107 months

Wednesday 11th September
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Vettels kids are 5 and 3 - his wife is his childhood sweetheart. You’d hardly blame the guy for not quite seeing the point of going round in circles these days. I personally hope he does stop - but for the reasons mentioned before rather than his current poor performance.

sparta6

1,330 posts

45 months

Wednesday 11th September
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Petrus1983 said:
Vettels kids are 5 and 3 - his wife is his childhood sweetheart. You’d hardly blame the guy for not quite seeing the point of going round in circles these days. I personally hope he does stop - but for the reasons mentioned before rather than his current poor performance.
Agree with this.
In addition to 4 WDC's, Vettel is a winner in life and already has the most important things.
Time to stop going around in circles for the sake of it.

tobinen

5,336 posts

90 months

Wednesday 11th September
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On the other hand he could see out his contract and bank another £/$/€30m or whatever he's paid. Just in case.

Petrus1983

2,446 posts

107 months

Wednesday 11th September
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tobinen said:
On the other hand he could see out his contract and bank another £/$/€30m or whatever he's paid. Just in case.
Crazy as it sounds I doubt an ‘extra’ £30m would change his life to any extent beyond what he already has. He and atleast his next generation are comfortable beyond measure for life. Plus he seems rather grounded.

kiseca

7,560 posts

164 months

Wednesday 11th September
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Petrus1983 said:
tobinen said:
On the other hand he could see out his contract and bank another £/$/€30m or whatever he's paid. Just in case.
Crazy as it sounds I doubt an ‘extra’ £30m would change his life to any extent beyond what he already has. He and atleast his next generation are comfortable beyond measure for life. Plus he seems rather grounded.
An extra £30m is always useful hehe Or more to the point, as long as he still enjoys racing a Formula 1 car and someone's willing to give him a seat, and failing to win often isn't killing his fun, and he's not fearing for his life in the car, then why not?

Deesee

2,756 posts

28 months

Wednesday 11th September
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Well well,

Merc Fe team

...

Albert Fabrega (@AlbertFabrega) Tweeted:

Beginning of a new era for Mercedes. The launch of the Formula E Team with Vandoorne and de Vries. Ian James will be the Team Principal. https://t.co/3tNAz3cHfb

https://twitter.com/AlbertFabrega/status/117179972...

de Vries & Stoffel... (handy partnership in an F1 team)..

LaurasOtherHalf

15,416 posts

141 months

Wednesday 11th September
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Two ex McLaren young drivers no?

Deesee

2,756 posts

28 months

Wednesday 11th September
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
Two ex McLaren young drivers no?
When McL are running Merc power next year...

MissChief

5,110 posts

113 months

Wednesday 11th September
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Deesee said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
Two ex McLaren young drivers no?
When McL are running Merc power next year...
If they are going to be running Merc power next season, which I doubt, they'd have known about it internally since the beginning of the year at least so all the design, CFD, building, curing, refining etc can be done and the parts signed off. If it is the case, why hasn't it been announced yet? A deal of this magnitude?

Not to mention the Renault deal is apparently for three years.

While Eddie Jordan may be right, (basically he spouts a lot of st and some of it sticks so he's seen as some sort of clairvoyant), to break yet another engine contract early and all that entails in terms of compensation to Renault, for a Mercedes engine next year? I highly, highly doubt it.

If there is likely to be any break from Renault it'll be for the 2021 season as McLaren will have then had two years with Renault who may then be far more amenable to a split and the compensation is likely to be far, far lower. It may even have been a two year deal with optional third year when the deal was signed early last year. We just don't know.

Sticking my neck out, but not by much IMO, McLaren will be Renault powered again next season.

Deesee

2,756 posts

28 months

Thursday 12th September
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MissChief said:
Deesee said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
Two ex McLaren young drivers no?
When McL are running Merc power next year...
If they are going to be running Merc power next season, which I doubt, they'd have known about it internally since the beginning of the year at least so all the design, CFD, building, curing, refining etc can be done and the parts signed off. If it is the case, why hasn't it been announced yet? A deal of this magnitude?

Not to mention the Renault deal is apparently for three years.

While Eddie Jordan may be right, (basically he spouts a lot of st and some of it sticks so he's seen as some sort of clairvoyant), to break yet another engine contract early and all that entails in terms of compensation to Renault, for a Mercedes engine next year? I highly, highly doubt it.

If there is likely to be any break from Renault it'll be for the 2021 season as McLaren will have then had two years with Renault who may then be far more amenable to a split and the compensation is likely to be far, far lower. It may even have been a two year deal with optional third year when the deal was signed early last year. We just don't know.

Sticking my neck out, but not by much IMO, McLaren will be Renault powered again next season.
Called the Merc deal on here before Eddie! Anyway its only what I've heard...

The main reason being suggested is that Williams will not run a Merc Gearbox as per Racing Point (as Merc have requested), and Renault will allow them to run their own gearbox, so a switcharoo is possible and will suit all parties.

TheDeuce

2,797 posts

11 months

Thursday 12th September
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Deesee said:
Well well,

Merc Fe team

...

Albert Fabrega (@AlbertFabrega) Tweeted:

Beginning of a new era for Mercedes. The launch of the Formula E Team with Vandoorne and de Vries. Ian James will be the Team Principal. https://t.co/3tNAz3cHfb

https://twitter.com/AlbertFabrega/status/117179972...

de Vries & Stoffel... (handy partnership in an F1 team)..
I was at the Frankfurt motor show - I saw the car smile

Missed the unveil and their press presentation as I was busy doing my duties on the JLR stand, who also brought along their FE car. I also saw, ironically, an engine-less Red Bull 33 F1 car on the Honda stand, because they make the engine - which was the only part of the car not present biggrin

Anyway, one major thing I noticed at this show, was that it was all about electric cars. No one was showing off anything very much none electric. One exception was our JLR stand, we launched the new Defender, which really can't be an EV just yet but is still very significant. The mood change has truly shifted to EV and I expect over the next couple of years FE will see other mainstream manufacturers entering to re-enforce their electric future. By the same token, I expect car maker titled teams to push for/support further electrification of F1 cars too. Changes in the industry are happening very quickly and that will filter through to F1 with only a relatively short delay.


MartG

14,578 posts

149 months

Friday 13th September
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Apparently Wehrlein approached Haas...

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/wehrlein-approa...