Lance Stroll is not a quick driver, discuss...

Lance Stroll is not a quick driver, discuss...

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Tyre Smoke

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23,018 posts

261 months

Saturday 13th April 2019
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Running around at the back last season, off the pace of his team mate.

Only in F1 because of daddy's money and shareholding at Racing Point.

If he was anyone else he wouldn't be there, his 'talent' would be better suited to another series - WEC perhaps? And on this point, is it a travesty that talent can't break into F1 without money and/or influence?
For instance, there's a lot of talent racing milk floats in Formula E that would be better utilised in F1 to create better racing, isn't there?

MB140

4,064 posts

103 months

Saturday 13th April 2019
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Yep your right. Daddy’s money is the only reason he’s there. Shame.

Muzzer79

9,951 posts

187 months

Saturday 13th April 2019
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Yes, but what can you do when Dad has the money to buy a whole team?

You can’t tell a team owner who he can and can’t put in the seat.

MiniMan64

16,924 posts

190 months

Saturday 13th April 2019
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Not really much to discuss here is there?

Kraken

1,710 posts

200 months

Saturday 13th April 2019
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Motorsport is big business at the end of the day. Very few teams can afford to recruit based on talent and nothing else in any series not just F1. Stroll might not be top end material but he's a decent enough driver. There have been far, far worse in F1.

Jasandjules

69,885 posts

229 months

Saturday 13th April 2019
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He has shown the odd (very rare) flash of skill. But mainly he does not appear skilled enough. Then again I look at Ric getting rinsed (mainly) by Hulkenberg right now and wonder how much of it is getting used to a new car....

Speed Badger

2,691 posts

117 months

Saturday 13th April 2019
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He seems to be a driver who needs the car to be perfect, or where possible, the best. Bit like Vettel. But he doesn't seem to have the driving capability to drive around a problem, unlike the experience of Perez or Massa. Problem is, he's not crap enough to be a laughing stock.

Compared to what the calibre of F1 drivers at the tail end when I was growing up (late 80's - mid 90's), Stroll is the Nigel Mansell of pay drivers!

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 13th April 2019
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Speed Badger said:
He seems to be a driver who needs the car to be perfect, or where possible, the best. Bit like Vettel. But he doesn't seem to have the driving capability to drive around a problem, unlike the experience of Perez or Massa. Problem is, he's not crap enough to be a laughing stock.

Compared to what the calibre of F1 drivers at the tail end when I was growing up (late 80's - mid 90's), Stroll is the Nigel Mansell of pay drivers!
Oh, I don’t know, I find him funny......... wink

Let’s face it; he’s there, we all know why, he’s going nowhere in the foreseeable so we might as well get used to it.

As said, there have been worse, so if that’s an assessment he can live with “Lance Stroll - not the worst pay driver ever”, he’s going to keep doing it as long as his old man wants to.

Deesee

8,420 posts

83 months

Saturday 13th April 2019
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Seems to be pretty good at starts, makes up lots of places..

Still young, and Sergio is a decent driver not many team mates have the better of him.

37chevy

3,280 posts

156 months

Saturday 13th April 2019
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He’s not world champion material but think he could become a solid mid field driver. Tbh if his presence in F1 over the next few years keeps 300-400 people employed then watching him drive is a sacrifice I’m willing to make.....

Piginapoke

4,760 posts

185 months

Saturday 13th April 2019
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He's obviously not a quick F1 driver, the stats alone say that, but I think it's his sense of entitlement that grates, not his performances.



Piginapoke

4,760 posts

185 months

Saturday 13th April 2019
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37chevy said:
He’s not world champion material but think he could become a solid mid field driver. Tbh if his presence in F1 over the next few years keeps 300-400 people employed then watching him drive is a sacrifice I’m willing to make.....
Force India had other options beyond taking the Stroll money.

TheDeuce

21,545 posts

66 months

Saturday 13th April 2019
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Just an average driver, there is some talent for sure. Not enough to set the world on fire but possibly more than some non pay drivers over the years.

It's a bit of a red herring to say 'hes only there because of daddy's money'. Sure, his dad wants the best for him - so will pay for him to have the opportunity. But there is a reason he's paying for him to sit in an F1 seat as opposed to a thousand other opportunities he could buy for his son. I expect it's because he believes Lance has a chance to achieve something real, so he paid up.

I can't see him progressing much tbh, but I can just about believe that with hard work, and without the billionaire dad, he could have found his own way to F1 for a single season.

To be fair, several non paid 'academy' drivers only got as far in the early days by having rich parents to put them through karts and have every possible opportunity during their formative years.

MrwReckless

123 posts

119 months

Saturday 13th April 2019
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Jasandjules said:
He has shown the odd (very rare) flash of skill. But mainly he does not appear skilled enough. Then again I look at Ric getting rinsed (mainly) by Hulkenberg right now and wonder how much of it is getting used to a new car....
Not got too much left over for him either, too me he's sort of anonymous and whilst I don't mind him being on the track, the real travesty was that someone with actual talent had to give up his race seat for him. That being said, Stroll seems anonymous on track so it's not like he is another Pasta Maldonado.

I wonder too about Ric + new car, and I'm sure there is something in it, but looking at other threads and topics it seems from the PistonHeads collective of driving gods you get the impression any top driver should easily be able to drive around problem areas and outperform the car. On a serious note though Hulk seems to be very rated by his peers, I'm quite a fan of him though so I might be biased.

Regards

37chevy

3,280 posts

156 months

Saturday 13th April 2019
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Piginapoke said:
Force India had other options beyond taking the Stroll money.
Such as? They obviously thought this was the best/ safest option. I’ve got several friends who are employed at the team so I’m good with their decision (as are they)

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

196 months

Saturday 13th April 2019
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There's been worse drivers, a lot worse. I feel he get's a lot of stick because of his Dad's financial status although he doesn't seem to do much to endear the casual supporter to himself.

They can all be a bunch of prissy madams when they want to be but he get's hit with the spoiled little rich kid stick.

Tyre Smoke

Original Poster:

23,018 posts

261 months

Saturday 13th April 2019
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Piginapoke said:
He's obviously not a quick F1 driver, the stats alone say that, but I think it's his sense of entitlement that grates, not his performances.
This, for me hits the nail on the head. It is 7nfair that his dad can force him into a team, when the team could do so much better results wise without him.

NoddyonNitrous

2,117 posts

232 months

Saturday 13th April 2019
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Well, he's done enough to get his superlicence, and doesn't trigger the 107% rule or have a high requirement for replacement bodywork. So doing OK, if thet's all that's required.

Piginapoke

4,760 posts

185 months

Saturday 13th April 2019
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
They can all be a bunch of prissy madams when they want to be but he get's hit with the spoiled little rich kid stick.
Yeah, and all because his daddy bought him an F1 team!

Piginapoke

4,760 posts

185 months

Saturday 13th April 2019
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37chevy said:
Such as? They obviously thought this was the best/ safest option. I’ve got several friends who are employed at the team so I’m good with their decision (as are they)
Russian company Uralkali is suing the administrator because it believes that the winning bid from the consortium led by Lawrence Stroll was significantly inferior to what it had offered.