F1 2021 Regulation changes

F1 2021 Regulation changes

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ajprice

27,471 posts

196 months

Thursday 22nd August 2019
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An aero model of a 2021 regulations car https://twitter.com/chainbearf1/status/11644998997...



https://f1.com/2021-Model

Edited by ajprice on Thursday 22 August 12:55

Deesee

8,420 posts

83 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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Heres a look from the test in France..

https://twitter.com/pirellisport/status/1172044833...

2021 Tyres look a lot better than I thought!

vaud

50,453 posts

155 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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Deesee said:
Heres a look from the test in France..

https://twitter.com/pirellisport/status/1172044833...

2021 Tyres look a lot better than I thought!
Looks fine to me.

What is the impact on suspension design in having significantly less sidewall?

Deesee

8,420 posts

83 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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vaud said:
Deesee said:
Heres a look from the test in France..

https://twitter.com/pirellisport/status/1172044833...

2021 Tyres look a lot better than I thought!
Looks fine to me.

What is the impact on suspension design in having significantly less sidewall?
Unsure at present, I though the tyre move was to do with being able to follow, although suggested so far, the wheel rims will be standard/standardised, hydraulic suspension is to be not allowed, the return of active suspension was rejected, and the tyres will be manufactured to degrade less. In this particular area of the new regs, what will be interesting is how they get the best out of the suspension/tyres under ground effect aero.

Kraken

1,710 posts

200 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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I thought the low profile tyres were all about marketing as they're more closely related to what the public have rather than being anything to do with solving the "following" problem?

HTP99

22,545 posts

140 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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What are the flaps on top of the front wheels for?

HustleRussell

24,690 posts

160 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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Kraken said:
I thought the low profile tyres were all about marketing as they're more closely related to what the public have rather than being anything to do with solving the "following" problem?
That’s part of it, but the teams also expend significant amounts of effort trying to engineer their way around the inherent wobbliness of the fat tyres.

I too am pleasantly surprised by the appearance of the lower profile tyres.

M3ax

1,291 posts

212 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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Looks good to me. Is the overall diameter increased? Visibility issues etc?

Deesee

8,420 posts

83 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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So Sergei did 94 laps with the 18 inch in the Renault.

And Ocon did 106 laps with the 13inch (same as now) but 18 inch ‘compound’, in the Merc.

Both going again tomorrow..

rdjohn

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6,177 posts

195 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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vaud said:
Looks fine to me.

What is the impact on suspension design in having significantly less sidewall?
Currently the tyres are the suspension, the teams would generally prefer lower tyre pressures.

The purpose of what we think of as the suspension components is to present the aero to the air in the most favourable manner. That’s why a common active suspension would have been a good idea.

So it is a lot more than just bolting different wheels on with a different compound. Everything will need to be re-engineered, or the cars will be pretty underivable over a typical race distance.

Edited by rdjohn on Thursday 12th September 20:28

ajprice

27,471 posts

196 months

Thursday 31st October 2019
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Announcement being made now at an F1 press conference, there's an official image out too

https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/11841866/f...


SmoothCriminal

5,056 posts

199 months

Thursday 31st October 2019
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SmoothCriminal

5,056 posts

199 months

Thursday 31st October 2019
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No change to the engines, ferrari will be happy biggrin

DanielSan

18,786 posts

167 months

Thursday 31st October 2019
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https://youtu.be/epdmatdvSzk

F1 YouTube channel has put a vid out covering the main details. Personally there's nothing so far I'm not in favour of, and that car looks amazing!

Arklight

891 posts

189 months

Thursday 31st October 2019
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I like that, but its all about the racing in the long run.

Sammo123

2,103 posts

181 months

Thursday 31st October 2019
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If the cars actually end up looking like that and do what we’re being told they can do then I’ll be happy smile

Allyc85

7,225 posts

186 months

Thursday 31st October 2019
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Looks promising!

With less over car aero parts, will we see much higher top speeds again?

Kraken

1,710 posts

200 months

Thursday 31st October 2019
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Allyc85 said:
Looks promising!

With less over car aero parts, will we see much higher top speeds again?
The F1 bosses expect them to be around three seconds a lap slower than the current cars. Not sure about the top speed increasing but I'd doubt it.

Megaflow

9,403 posts

225 months

Thursday 31st October 2019
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The car looks good and it seems like we know finally have a sensible revenue distribution model. If the car delivers what it promises, then this really will be win-win-win.

HustleRussell

24,690 posts

160 months

Thursday 31st October 2019
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25kg heavier at 768kg. Nearly as heavy as a Formula E car. Maximum wheel base of 3,600mm.